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MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

11:57 AM - February 22, 2013 by Steve_OS

Thanks to chrisjohnson83 (who has already confirmed his legit copy of the game with me), we have screenshots of the overall team ratings for MLB 13 The Show. This includes batting, pitching and defensive team ratings.

The ratings are accurate as of the January 24th roster update, so there will probably be subtle changes before release date on March 5th.

Overall Team Rating

1. Detroit Tigers
2. St. Louis Cardinals
3. Boston Red Sox
4. Los Angeles Angels
5. Toronto Blue Jays
6. Texas Rangers
7. Washington Nationals
8. Atlanta Braves
9. Cincinnati Reds
10. Philadelphia Phillies
11. New York Yankees
12. Los Angeles Dodgers
13. Colorado Rockies
14. Chicago White Sox
15. Arizona Diamondbacks
16. Tampa Bay Rays
17. San Francisco Giants
18. Oakland Athletics
19. Kansas City Royals
20. Milwaukee Brewers
21. Baltimore Orioles
22. Pittsburgh Pirates
23. Seattle Mariners
24. Cleveland Indians
25. San Diego Padres
26. Minnesota Twins
27. Chicago Cubs
28. New York Mets
29. Miami Marlins
30. Houston Astros

Team Batting

1. Detroit Tigers
2. Los Angeles Angels
3. Colorado Rockies
4. Boston Red Sox
5. Texas Rangers
6. Toronto Blue Jays
7. Cincinnati Reds
8. St. Louis Cardinals
9. Washington Nationals
10. Los Angeles Dodgers
11. New York Yankees
12. Atlanta Braves
13. Philadelphia Phillies
14. Milwaukee Brewers
15. Baltimore Orioles
16. Arizona Diamondbacks
17. Chicago White Sox
18. Kansas City Royals
19. Oakland Athletics
20. Pittsburgh Pirates
21. Cleveland Indians
22. San Francisco Giants
23. Seattle Mariners
24. Tampa Bay Rays
25. Miami Marlins
26. New York Mets
27. San Diego Padres
28. Minnesota Twins
29. Chicago Cubs
30. Houston Astros

Team Pitching

1. Philadelphia Phillies
2. Washington Nationals
3. Atlanta Braves
4. St. Louis Cardinals
5. Tampa Bay Rays
6. New York Yankees
7. Toronto Blue Jays
8. Los Angeles Dodgers
9. San Francisco Giants
10. Boston Red Sox
11. Cincinnati Reds
12. Texas Rangers
13. Detroit Tigers
14. Los Angeles Angels
15. Arizona Diamondbacks
16. Oakland Athletics
17. Chicago White Sox
18. Kansas City Royals
19. San Diego Padres
20. Seattle Mariners
21. Cleveland Indians
22. Pittsburgh Pirates
23. Colorado Rockies
24. Milwaukee Brewers
25. Baltimore Orioles
26. Chicago Cubs
27. Minnesota Twins
28. New York Mets
29. Houston Astros
30. Miami Marlins

Team Defense

1. New York Yankees
2. Los Angeles Dodgers
3. Los Angeles Angels
4. Tampa Bay Rays
5. Cincinnati Reds
6. Philadelphia Phillies
7. Atlanta Braves
8. Chicago Cubs
9. Baltimore Orioles
10. San Francisco Giants
11. Texas Rangers
12. Washington Nationals
13. Colorado Rockies
14. St. Louis Cardinals
15. Boston Red Sox
16. Kansas City Royals
17. Arizona Diamondbacks
18. San Diego Padres
19. Detroit Tigers
20. Houston Astros
21. Pittsburgh Pirates
22. Cleveland Indians
23. Seattle Mariners
24. Oakland Athletics
25. Miami Marlins
26. Toronto Blue Jays
27. Minnesota Twins
28. Milwaukee Brewers
29. Chicago White Sox
30. New York Mets

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Member Comments

# 81 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 04:02 PM

RED SOX

Key departures: IF Mike Aviles, RHP Aaron Cook, IF Ivan DeJesus Jr, 1B James Loney, RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka, RHP Mark Melancon, RHP Vicente Padilla, OF Scott Podsednik, OF Cody Ross, OF Jerry Sands, 3B Danny Valencia

Key arrivals: RHP Ryan Dempster, SS Stephen Drew, OF Jonny Gomes, RHP Joel Hanrahan, 1B/C Mike Napoli, C David Ross, RHP Koji Uehara, OF Shane Victorino

You can't deny they got better this offseason. Top 5 better? Well those names have a lot of star power. I'm not too upset they're 'above' the Jays *shudder*

# 82 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 04:04 PM

ORIOLES

Key departures: 2B Robert Andino, OF Endy Chavez, OF Bill Hall, DH Nick Johnson, IF Omar Quintanilla, 1B/3B Mark Reynolds, LHP Joe Saunders, DH Jim Thome, LHP Randy Wolf

Key arrivals: IF Alexi Casilla, 1B Travis Ishikawa, RHP Jair Jurrjens, UT Yamaico Navarro, OF Trayvon Robinson, 3B Danny Valencia

even with the improvement of Machado...the O's regressed this offseason IMO.

# 83 ScouserHUN @ 02/22/13 04:10 PM

As a Red Sox fan, I'm a bit suprised about the ratings, but after a long thinking it seems logical.

A lot of the Red Sox players had down years in 2012: Ellsbury, Victorino, Napoli, Lester, Buchholz, Bard. Pedroia was injured a lot, and Big Papi only played half of the games. Add to that Lackey, who was pretty bad in 2011, but was a good pitcher before.

So, I think they made those players better then they were in 2012, because Lester is clearly not a 5.0 ERA pitcher ect... If you look at the Red Sox starters they were pretty good in 2011 and before:

Lester: potentially an ACE, but a solid NO 2 at least
Buchholz: same as Lester
Dempster: good no 3
Lackey: good in 2009 and before
Doubront: high strikeout rate, rookie

This is a very good rotation if you look at Carrer stats, instead of 2012.

Just look at MIke Napoli, he hit .320 in 2011, then .220 in 2012. how good he will be? Probably between the two, slightly even better. Ellsbury had an MVP caliber season in 2011, then injury hit in 2012.

If you look at these players, pre 2012, then you get a top 5 team in the Show...

Real life will tell, if these players are going to bounce back or not, but game makers have to rely on carrer stats, instead just 1 year, and of course they can't tell the future.

So I think this list is just fine, but with OSFM rosters there will be no problems

# 84 earp4530 @ 02/22/13 04:13 PM

There is no way Boston should be 3rd overall, Idc what anyone says about getting Hanrahan & Napoli that could barely pass a physical and had a bad 2012.

# 85 CWSJ @ 02/22/13 04:18 PM

its kinda frustrating to me because i think the Jays should be higher up..Definantly higher then red sox.

I just think its crazy that the team that has the best odds according to vegas(dont know if they still are this was a couple weeks ago) is not even ranked top 3.

but if the way they rank players on here is still the same then i understand why they are not ranked higher

# 86 ParisB @ 02/22/13 04:18 PM

Relax, guys. Sheesh.

And for what its worth, Giants ERA on the road is pretty bad. Don't let park factors fool you. They won the world series because their offense was hot and guys like Ross, Scutaro, and Panda were smoking the ball.

# 87 DubTrey1 @ 02/22/13 04:19 PM

Well, another year and another great challenge for me to steer my hometown Astros from worse to a little less worse

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I am surprised at the D rating actually, but considering how many runs we give up - you must have to be able to get better a fielding due to the sheer number of hits LOL.

# 88 CWSJ @ 02/22/13 04:28 PM

i understand SF fans disappointment because they won WS. I dont think they should be ranked to high just because they won the world series but i think they are ranked to low.

They are just above average in terms of skill in my opinion they just seem to pull it together when it matters most.

I think they should be ranked 10-13

# 89 Rules @ 02/22/13 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cdncurrency


	ORIOLES Key departures: 2B Robert Andino, OF Endy Chavez, OF Bill Hall, DH Nick Johnson, IF Omar Quintanilla, 1B/3B Mark Reynolds, LHP Joe Saunders, DH Jim Thome, LHP Randy Wolf Key arrivals: IF Alexi Casilla, 1B Travis Ishikawa, RHP Jair Jurrjens, UT Yamaico Navarro, OF Trayvon Robinson, 3B Danny Valencia even with the improvement of Machado...the O's regressed this offseason IMO.

What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.

As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.

# 90 cardinalbird5 @ 02/22/13 04:30 PM

Kinda surprised to see the Cards 2nd. I was expecting 7th or 8th. But to be fair, most of their key players are returning and they were 4th in run differential last year, 2nd in NL in runs scored, and was 8th in team ERA.

Their rotation and bullpen is going to very deep this year, even with the loss of Carpenter.

# 91 giantsharks @ 02/22/13 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonadom


	If this was my forum, this thread would not have been created. It draws the most whiniest and biased comments from fans I've ever seen. These ratings aren't even concrete, are they ?

what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.

# 92 Rules @ 02/22/13 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giantsharks


	what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.

Exactly, not like we are bashing anyone. Support your team...........have fun!

# 93 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rules


	What??? Robert Andino = average at best. Endy Chavez = sucked! Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out. Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol. Omar Quintanilla = Good player Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing. Joe Saunders = another average pitcher. Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime. Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here. As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.

I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

# 94 Rules @ 02/22/13 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rules


	What??? Robert Andino = average at best. Endy Chavez = sucked! Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out. Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol. Omar Quintanilla = Good player Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing. Joe Saunders = another average pitcher. Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime. Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here. As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.

Plus, I think Buck opened up the roster so that he can pick up a few players. The ones brought in are not taxing to the budget.

# 95 Rules @ 02/22/13 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdncurrency


	I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are. Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

Pitching has never been solid for the O's in the past decade.

# 96 CMH @ 02/22/13 04:42 PM

I've always said there's no reason to argue ratings, but I think the Red Sox ranking just made me drop my jaw.

# 97 TeixeiraFanatic @ 02/22/13 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdncurrency


	I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are. Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.

# 98 Officerbill8 @ 02/22/13 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScouserHUN


	As a Red Sox fan, I'm a bit suprised about the ratings, but after a long thinking it seems logical. A lot of the Red Sox players had down years in 2012: Ellsbury, Victorino, Napoli, Lester, Buchholz, Bard. Pedroia was injured a lot, and Big Papi only played half of the games. Add to that Lackey, who was pretty bad in 2011, but was a good pitcher before. So, I think they made those players better then they were in 2012, because Lester is clearly not a 5.0 ERA pitcher ect... If you look at the Red Sox starters they were pretty good in 2011 and before: Lester: potentially an ACE, but a solid NO 2 at least Buchholz: same as Lester Dempster: good no 3 Lackey: good in 2009 and before Doubront: high strikeout rate, rookie This is a very good rotation if you look at Carrer stats, instead of 2012. Just look at MIke Napoli, he hit .320 in 2011, then .220 in 2012. how good he will be? Probably between the two, slightly even better. Ellsbury had an MVP caliber season in 2011, then injury hit in 2012. If you look at these players, pre 2012, then you get a top 5 team in the Show... Real life will tell, if these players are going to bounce back or not, but game makers have to rely on carrer stats, instead just 1 year, and of course they can't tell the future. So I think this list is just fine, but with OSFM rosters there will be no problems

Most of what you say above is correct.

Let's pretend to forget for a moment the way the show computes the ratings is flawed for a moment (ie: putting too much emphasis on how good a closer is for your pitching overall/ going 60% off your starting lineup and 40% off your bench to compute your hitting overall)

What people don't understand in these rankings is that it's based off EVERY team being 100% healthy.

Are the Red Sox when 100% healthy a top 3 overall team? No. But if they're healthy they are probably a top 10 overall team.

Let's look at last year...they lose 2 of their 3 best players to injury. Ellsbury in April and Ortiz in July (ortiz would have been top 3 in mvp voting at the time of the injury. If you don't believe me look at his #'s last year. I don't think people realize HOW AMAZING a season david ortiz was having in 2012 before he got injured)

So my point is....the Red Sox as an organization have VERY little depth...so they had no chance in plugging in the production of losing 2 of their 3 best players due to injury last year.

These team ratings are assuming ALL players are healthy. And say what you want about the 2012 Red Sox, they were DESIMATED last year with some key injuries on offense. (Ortiz, Ellsbury, Pedroia for 20+ games, Ross for 30+ games, Crawford for 100+ games, etc.)

# 99 cdncurrency @ 02/22/13 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeixeiraFanatic


	By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.

No, by Kevin Gregg I mean Kevin Gregg.

Thanks for coming out.

# 100 PsychoBulk @ 02/22/13 05:12 PM

Rankings Schmankings.

Hugely subjective and i hold little weight to them (but yeah, the Red Sox lol), but it is amusing seeing people get so worked up over them and the homerism on display.

Lets get to the real wonder of this thread...

http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83 has a full retail copy of the game!

My man, the floor is yours...

What im actually saying is, gameplay vids, UNINTERRUPTED gameplay vids, would be hugely appreciated by all of us in the community!

Your call though http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83

Just pulling your leg really.

Anything you could chuck up, pics/vids would be great.

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