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Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Available Now (Updated to Include Full Details)

06:51 AM - September 11, 2012 by Steve_OS

Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 is available now for 360 users. We'll update this post when PS3 users can see it.

This update includes a new instant start option when creating a player in CCM. The team has also fixed numerous stability issues and GameFace improvements.

While the team hasn't added the ability to edit players in CCM, they still haven't shot down the idea completely, in hopes to have it available in a future patch.

The week 1 Madden NFL 13 updated rosters for CCM are not included in this title update, but are supposed to be out sometime this week.

UPDATE: Here are the details on the title update.

Added an Instant Start option to Connected Careers as a player
Numerous commentary improvements to address when lines trigger and what they say.
Added a trade notification in CCM for the NFL Draft
Fixed social media sharing post-game to address spacing issues
Improved the GameFace feature
Fixed Challenge Audio to make the appropriate call
Improved Physics Get-up post play
Adjusted created players in Connected Careers so that they always have high progression grades despite their backstory choices
Fixed defensive assignment issues against the CPU AI when users were in Man Coverage
Increased the chances to trade for a CPU team�s starter
Adjusted the scouting development trait in CCM to display as (Slow, Medium, Fast, or Superstar) instead of 0-3.
Added the ability to post results from H2H MUT games on Facebook/Twitter.
Numerous stability issues around the game in general were also included in the update to improve the overall experience and Connected Careers specifically.

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# 81 Hades71 @ 09/11/12 11:32 AM

Anyone know if the patch is upon ps3 yet? Was on earlier and didnt get it. Eager to see what it does since their is uncharacteristically no actual information in this rant, err thread.

# 82 jpdavis82 @ 09/11/12 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	This isn't solely a Madden thing, though. The same thing happens with the baseball games, FIFA, NHL and NBA 2k. Except for MLB 2k, the difference is those games are better out of the box than Madden and people are more willing to wait.

I have been playing NHL 13 early release via S.T. and it plays flawlessly out of the box. I only played a few games, but I saw no bugs or glitches what so ever. I'm sure there are some, but it was not noticeable in my experience if they were there.

# 83 hudgenja @ 09/11/12 11:32 AM

I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not but I haven't seen the title update posted anywhere so if anyone whom has it could post it, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks

# 84 crpav @ 09/11/12 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by whaley


	I'm a software developer for a living (albeit in server-side business middleware, which I'd argue is way simpler than platform game development). This game has only been released to the public for two weeks. Depending on the bug sometimes it takes that long just to reproducible bug, triage it, and get a patch for it and get it committed to the main code line. This isn't even counting manual QA and several other things that go into the release process. This stuff isn't easy. Chances are the stability fixes being mentioned are things that were causing actual loss of gameplay, crashing, major loss of functionality, but were only rarely occurring such that the risk of releasing the game with those bugs in there was small and they've probably been able to successfully reproduce and patch those critical issues. Developers aren't gods and can't just simply "write more code" to fix something. Give them a break in expecting something so soon. Of course, with this said, there are lots of warts (and CCM gameplay!) that really should be able to get patched in time for that bigger patch that people keep alluding to in 1-2 months. Realistically hold off on being disappointing until then. The fact there actually seems to be a somewhat predictable patch cycle shows that EA Sports actually does care here - I've worked in software shops that didn't care before and never bumped priority on things that caused loss of functionality for a minority of users and didn't plan a patch cycle accordingly.

As a computer science major in college with emphasis in programming I do understand the difficulty in programming and fixing bugs especially for very large projects like this. However I can't stand for lazy or bad programming to start. I will say ti again, Madden used to be fun and a bit more realistic when it came to pure football. It's a football game first so start there then add in the bells and whistles.

Let's be honest, they have deadlines and budgets so QA and overall quality suffers. The team is about money now and less about what EA started as, sports fans. The designers of these games are gamers first and maybe football fans second if at all. They probably don't have QA testers that know or care about football either so when they test before it's released they only look for the obvious like a game crashing and overlook true football game play.

# 85 ProbieByKO @ 09/11/12 11:36 AM

Word on the EA Forums is that there is a problem with the patch, and EA is fixing something and we should be able to re-download it later today.

I don't know if this is true, and i don't understand what it means exactly, but several posters on the EA Forums are saying that this is why no changes are evident yet even after getting the update.

# 86 roadman @ 09/11/12 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hudgenja


	I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not but I haven't seen the title update posted anywhere so if anyone whom has it could post it, it would be much appreciated. Thanks

If you are referring to patch notes, the OP directed us to a link that was the same as yesterday's facebook page.

He said that was all the info he had.

# 87 jpdavis82 @ 09/11/12 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ProbieByKO


	Word on the EA Forums is that there is a problem with the patch, and EA is fixing something and we should be able to re-download it later today. I don't know if this is true, and i don't understand what it means exactly, but several posters on the EA Forums are saying that this is why no changes are evident yet even after getting the update.

Where on the EA Forums? I just looked in the Madden General Discussion forum and didn't see this talked about anywhere.

# 88 Dogslax41 @ 09/11/12 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	I have been playing NHL 13 early release via S.T. and it plays flawlessly out of the box. I only played a few games, but I saw no bugs or glitches what so ever. I'm sure there are some, but it was not noticeable in my experience if they were there.

NHL 13 is not even close to flawless out of the box. Penalties are a huge issue ( I hate the term broken, but the penalty issue and apparently non-functioning penalty slider will keep me from playing the game until it is patched) as well as near side pipe goalie logic.

# 89 roadman @ 09/11/12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ProbieByKO


	Word on the EA Forums is that there is a problem with the patch, and EA is fixing something and we should be able to re-download it later today. I don't know if this is true, and i don't understand what it means exactly, but several posters on the EA Forums are saying that this is why no changes are evident yet even after getting the update.

Is that confirmed by EA, yet?

# 90 Hades71 @ 09/11/12 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crpav


	As a computer science major in college with emphasis in programming I do understand the difficulty in programming and fixing bugs especially for very large projects like this. However I can't stand for lazy or bad programming to start. I will say ti again, Madden used to be fun and a bit more realistic when it came to pure football. It's a football game first so start there then add in the bells and whistles. Let's be honest, they have deadlines and budgets so QA and overall quality suffers. The team is about money now and less about what EA started as, sports fans. The designers of these games are gamers first and maybe football fans second if at all. They probably don't have QA testers that know or care about football either so when they test before it's released they only look for the obvious like a game crashing and overlook true football game play.

Herp, Derp.

# 91 ProbieByKO @ 09/11/12 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdavis82


	Where on the EA Forums? I just looked in the Madden General Discussion forum and didn't see this talked about anywhere.

A couple of posters mentioned this within a few threads, which is why I said that I didn't know if it was true or not.

I'm kind of hoping it is, and that's why no changes are noticeable yet.

I'll look through the threads again and post a link when I find it.

I repeat, nothing officially said by EA, just the word in a few threads on the forum.

# 92 La Verite @ 09/11/12 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by steamboat


	Complaint I am seeing a lot on these forums: Why is it such a big deal that it needs to be looked into to simply add editing players into this game? If you have been following Josh Looman as I have he has answered this question. Editing players can more or less make Connected Careers mode crash or not function correctly with the storylines etc. So it is likely that they have to re-do some of the coding with the storylines and the entire CCM mode to accomodate for editing of players. Last thing I want is for them to rush out editing players and then CCM crashes/freezes every time I play it because of it. Why is it so hard to implement a fantasy draft into Connected Careers? They would, in fact, have to rewrite the code for multiple screens of the game and fabricate a whole new screen and process. A new toggle-able option on the CCM startup screen. It alters the flow of the pre-career setup significantly. More signifantly then an edit player option even. It also could potentially lead to a destabilization of the mode if not done correctly. Then why did they take these things out? They did not take these things out. This is not the Madden that has existed on this console since day one. The entire code was scrapped, and they used very little of the old code in this new game. Therefore, they did not take it out. They were not able to put it back in under the new format in time.

This is why I hope they only focus on minor things that won't mess the game up overall. I mean I understand some complaints but some people want a whole another game. I actually like M13 and I hope this game is not completly ruined just to satisfy a few negitive reviews.

# 93 roadman @ 09/11/12 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	I don't have FIFA or NHL, but the bold is the key to all the other games I have. NBA2K, even MLB2K or any other game I have doesn't come out with nearly the number of issues Madden does. Just because other games come out with some issues, doesn't excuse the way Madden is released.

Never said or implied it did, just saying it's par for the time table of other yearly sports games patches.

# 94 ballymenasteve @ 09/11/12 11:46 AM

The developers had the 'final' build of the game, weeks before it was released, so there's no valid reason why some of the basic bugs like wind direction arrow, assisted tackles, stadium sounds haven't been fixed by now, even taking the certification period into account

# 95 steamboat @ 09/11/12 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Then it was designed and implemented very poorly. The story lines should have been dynamic (parametrized) so that changing players attributes would not break the story line. Hey, I'm no apologist, nor am I a programmer all I am saying here is that at its current state the developers of the game have stated its not as easy as just a 10 minute job (like it was in the previous generation) Then I would rather have them keep Franchise and CCM until CCM is ready to completely replace franchise. I had heard something about franchise being too much to add on to the game on the PS3/X360 memory wise. Regardless the two are the same mode, and the stability issues I could see coming from having three rosters, three patch points, and all of that I just can't see it being plausible. Yes they did take these things out. Were they in last years game? and previous years? Are they in this years game? They have been removed from last year to this year. Those features that were in the game last year are missing from this years game. Saying they were not taken out is just a semantics game. Maybe it is semantics, but people are acting like they were in this code and they were taken out. Like it was simple for them to just leave it in. All I'm asking for is a little perspective, thats all.

The game right now is unplayable for me. I hope this patch at least makes it playable either online or offline. So I'm just as upset as others are about this, but being irrational and stating things that are not so does not help anyone. Particularly if you want to be taken seriously by the devs or EA personnel that comes onto these boards.

# 96 crpav @ 09/11/12 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hades71


	Herp, Derp.

I am sorry for what i said. I just was a bit upset as I took the response as me being "stupid" not as what I said as boring.

# 97 steamboat @ 09/11/12 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Who is being irrational and stating things that are not so?

About half the people complaining on these boards. Not you, of course. We've been having rational conversations for the past week that I've been waiting for a playable game. But there are a ton here that use all caps and claiming that everything is so easy to fix. Even on this thread there are a half dozen examples of this.

# 98 Hades71 @ 09/11/12 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by crpav


	If you have somethig to say then please post something more intelligent than that. Ok, maybe I went way out of no where with what I posted but come on quit being an EA nut hanger and see that EA has gone downhill and it's a sad truth.

Thanks for attacking me on a personal level for finding your post dull.

# 99 Cnada @ 09/11/12 11:52 AM

All arguments about patches number of them, EA Greed yada yada yada

I want Online Sliders Fixed but dont think this will happen in a patch think it is backend server stuff.

hope remains!

# 100 steamboat @ 09/11/12 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cnada


	All arguments about patches number of them, EA Greed yada yada yada I want Online Sliders Fixed but dont think this will happen in a patch think it is backend server stuff. hope remains!

Thats a good thing, as it tends to mean it will be patched sooner then the next patch. I'm just hoping I can stay connected for longer then five minutes after this one.

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