NBA Live 13 News Post

NBA Live 13 a $20 Digital Release This October?

08:17 PM - August 30, 2012 by 22cedric

It looks like NBA Live 13 is coming out as a digital release after all and not a full on $60 AAA title if the report from IRB Gamer today is to be believed. This seems a pretty big admission that Live simply isn't ready for prime-time obviously, which also obviously seems to be the case. What a mess.

IRB Gamer has the scoop:

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	"It�s been almost 3 years since we�ve released an NBA title,� the EA rep said. The tactic is to get feedback from gamers. However, it�s a bit risky to not run it as the AAA title as thedecision has been made to NOT put the game on disc. Live will be looking at a price point around $19.99,� equaling out to 1600 Microsoft Points or $20 PlayStation Network card.

What do you guys think? Smart decision by EA? Does this mean Live isn't up to par quality wise?

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# 341 jreezy18 @ 09/01/12 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kingpnp3


	2k does it every year. every year they lie about the servers. every year you darn near have to wait until santa comes to bring you a decent online experience. its been that way for like uhhhhhh 5 years or so.

The fact that the thing you brought up to criticize 2K for is the online is actually pretty telling of their game. They make some pretty quality basketball games when the first beef someone has with it is the online servers.

# 342 Subversion @ 09/01/12 05:52 PM

The scariest part about Live being disowned by it's own company is that EA, with all it's billions of dollars, can't hire talented human beings to bring great ideas to the table. How hard is it to study 2K, and everything 2K does great, and build on that to create a competitor?

Anyone with me?

# 343 barimanlhs @ 09/01/12 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Subversion


	The scariest part about Live being disowned by it's own company is that EA, with all it's billions of dollars, can't hire talented human beings to bring great ideas to the table. How hard is it to study 2K, and everything 2K does great, and build on that to create a competitor? Anyone with me?

I agree, and to their credit, they tried to work on areas that 2k had issues in (passing, online, and something else but I forget what exactly they said). Realistically, the only thing Live potentially has over 2k is Online due to EAs servers.

Really Live 10 had the foundation to do just what you said, but the big wigs didnt like the overall numbers and decided there needed to be a drastic change (Elite....)

I still cannot see how they can charge $20 for a glorified demo, even if it is for consumer feedback (Isnt that what the Gamechangers program is for?). Even if someone prefers Live's controls, I just dont see how it can make much of a difference if the core game plays nothing like the sport it is trying to replicate.

# 344 alexthegreat @ 09/01/12 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chandlerbang


	I also want to add for all to see Live 13 being a digital release only at this time is just speculation until official EA annoucement. They are still working on the game as we speak and their minds can easily change and release in stores at any time.

Maybe, but its seriously doubtful. The writing on the wall about this being a downloadable game has been there all summer. Plus, we are one month away from the supposed release date. They dont really have much flex room anymore for deciding on whether this is going to stores or going to be digital only.

# 345 kingeo19 @ 09/01/12 06:50 PM

I'm reading way too many posts saying that EA can make a profit by selling LIVE for $20.

You can't make profit if your sales numbers don't surpass your development and production costs.
You can't make profit with this title when you haven't released a NBA LIVE/ELITE product since the Fall of 2009.
You can't make profit when money has been trickling away due to firings, hiring, reshuffling of development teams, and paying for licensing when a product was not released.
This release would have to surpass industry record numbers for them to make profit. Halo, COD, GTA numbers, come on people.
The price point is not a way to make money. It's a means of salvaging an underwhelming product.

# 346 King_B_Mack @ 09/01/12 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lon515


	In my opinion NbA2K11 is the best basketball game on the current gen consoles and 2K13 does not look better than that to me. So instead of spend 60$ i could spend and hour's worth of a paycheck and get live with updated rosters, online, a franchise mode, acceptable presentation, great crowd atmosphere and a since its not polished enough to be a full sim arcade mixed in with sim for and enjoyable experience its a game the point is to have fun so if you can have fun for a lower cost than its even better.

So then keep playing Live 10. Go rebuy Live 10. Everything you mentioned having, you can get in Live 10. If it's about value, which I doubt, then Live 10 will cost you $9.99 for the PS3 and $14.99 on the 360 at Gamestop right now. Instead you're in here talking up Live 13 as this great value for 20 bucks for stuff you don't even know you're going to get? NCAA 10 was a full fledged, advertised disc release that didn't get any support for anything and we're in here talking about how this digital download IS going to be all this stuff. I'd wait for the reviews on this one.

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Originally Posted by lon515


	o trust me they will hear people bashing the game. they are probably on here right now reading this. but the game changers should but up some good information that should advance the game. and then i go back to the fact that to me they were trying to compete with 2k this because they only had 8 months to work on the game. so they build of the positives they have this year. atmosphere, presentation and go forward and we will see what happens next year but until then . i see no problem with buy a roster update with good aspects for 20$.

Why do you keep saying they ONLY had so much time to work on this title. They had a FULL DEVELOPMENT CYCLE. They may not have used the full two years after Elite that they could have and should have used, but they definitely had a full, normal development cycle. At the least they had nine months and not eight.

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Originally Posted by thevaliantx


	ooooohhhh, BIG THREAT! Dude, if you weren't already sitting on the OTHER side of the fence (the one that EXPECTED EA to have little to show for in its comeback bid, then it might be appropriate to say that you'll be in for the next inception. Have fun with Live!

Yep, you definitely know me and my history with EA. Got me.

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Originally Posted by Subversion


	The scariest part about Live being disowned by it's own company is that EA, with all it's billions of dollars, can't hire talented human beings to bring great ideas to the table. How hard is it to study 2K, and everything 2K does great, and build on that to create a competitor? Anyone with me?

They CAN hire the talent, we saw that with Mike Wang and Marcus. The problem is the guys up top don't give two drops of piss about a quality, true representation of basketball as opposed to the correct numbers. See Live 10 and the decision to change direction and piss off the best guy in the basketball gaming biz

# 347 eye guy @ 09/01/12 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KingRell


	This sucks....was hoping Live would comeback in full force.... Guess I'm stuck with NBA 2k roster updates and tweaks here and there and terrible online servers, oh well

Hahaha, EA fans make my day fun...

# 348 bxphenom7 @ 09/01/12 10:53 PM

guys, the game DIDN't TAKE 3 YEARS TO MAKE. That's the real problem. they were only developing this for a year smh. they are idiots and do not take their product seriously. what does Ea care though when they seem to have settled for Madden and FIFA smh

# 349 barimanlhs @ 09/01/12 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bxphenom7


	guys, the game DIDN't TAKE 3 YEARS TO MAKE. That's the real problem. they were only developing this for a year smh. they are idiots and do not take their product seriously. what does Ea care though when they seem to have settled for Madden and FIFA smh

This is one of the biggest issues I have with the whole Live fiasco. Even if Elite was garbage, build off of and improve that engine since they had ambitious goals. 3 years should be more than enough time to make a playable and decent basketball game...I mean if EAs intentions were to start fresh, MAKE IT WORK!

# 350 SambFTW! @ 09/01/12 11:07 PM

this would explain the lack of advertising. it seems a $20 downloadable release isn't capable of recouping the ad budget of previous titles; cuts were made to compensate, hence the perceived secrecy. my guess is, they can't pay as much for cover athletes either, which would explain the hold up there.

i was hoping i'd have a choice this year, looks like EA made up my mind for me...2K FTW!

# 351 VUUAASSHHH! @ 09/01/12 11:31 PM

Haha EA is a joke. They want the gamers to be their testers. Only stupids will buy Live13 instead of 2K13

# 352 barimanlhs @ 09/02/12 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by VUUAASSHHH!


	Haha EA is a joke. They want the gamers to be their testers.* Only stupids will buy Live13 instead of 2K13*

Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt this EXACTLY what the Game Changers program was created for? Consumer feedback meant to make these games better?

# 353 Rain816 @ 09/02/12 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RayDog253


	Except now we're only getting a $20 game and not a full title...

hate to break it to ya cuzo....but even if it was release on a disc as a full game it would still be worth about 20 bucks....lol

# 354 LionsFanNJ @ 09/02/12 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by barimanlhs


	Correct me if Im wrong, but isnt this EXACTLY what the Game Changers program was created for? Consumer feedback meant to make these games better?

Except they didn't have one. They made some dumb advisory council filled with guys no one knows and never heard from. AKA it meant nothing.

# 355 lon515 @ 09/02/12 03:36 AM

Saying your stupid if you buy this over 2k is wrong. a game is for enjoyment and who are you to decide for someone else. if your not going to buy it thats fine but the point is its a new sports title that will 40 dollars cheaper so its is more available to a lot more people and should sell pretty well. but by you stating your hate and bashing is doing nothing but showing your immaturity and lack of knowledge.

And for the last time they did not have "3 YEARS THO" they had 8 months not because of being lazy but because they had to put together a team and decide where to go for the future

this was never going to be a year to compete this was a option from the start but they "hoped to be able to advance the game far enough to make a full AAA disc title but they could not.

You people act like you know so much on how things are but actually don't want to understand and show unbelievable ability to be biased

and last but not least i own the best basketball game of all time NBA 2k11

# 356 jreezy18 @ 09/02/12 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kingpnp3


	wrong. thats not how you should look at it. you should say. its 2012. you should not have these kind of server issues. period. thats why i brought it up. its amazing that they have those problems in this day an age. its like catching someone walking around with a Discman vs an ipod, or mp3 player, or cell phone playing music. its like we off that. we've been off that. time to get with the times 2k. get your servers together.

I had a feeling someone might bring up what year we're in. I did keep that in mind when I wrote what I did. My point though, as important as online is to people, that's not the most important thing for a game to function or be great, in my opinion. Peoples' criticisms of 2K continue to diminish to the point where the online is the only really bothersome aspect of the game. I understand that the servers should be better but I personally find that online being the big issue is indicative of a quality experience, despite the year we're in and what's acceptable now. There's a parallel here with the NBA Live series. What EA has put out is not acceptable by 2012 standards. Like you said, we've been off that. This isn't 2005 anymore and the game should reflect that.

# 357 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kingpnp3


	wrong. thats not how you should look at it. you should say. its 2012. you should not have these kind of server issues. period. thats why i brought it up. its amazing that they have those problems in this day an age. its like catching someone walking around with a Discman vs an ipod, or mp3 player, or cell phone playing music. its like we off that. we've been off that. time to get with the times 2k. get your servers together.

I find it ironic that the people begging to giving Live a pass for a gameplay rewrite that's at least 3 years old, are the same ones crying foul on 2k's online issues after they JUST rewrote the online code 1 year ago...

There goes that beautiful double standard!

# 358 King_B_Mack @ 09/02/12 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lon515


	Saying your stupid if you buy this over 2k is wrong. a game is for enjoyment and who are you to decide for someone else. if your not going to buy it thats fine but the point is its a new sports title that will 40 dollars cheaper so its is more available to a lot more people and should sell pretty well. but by you stating your hate and bashing is doing nothing but showing your immaturity and lack of knowledge. And for the last time they did not have "3 YEARS THO" they had 8 months not because of being lazy but because they had to put together a team and decide where to go for the future this was never going to be a year to compete this was a option from the start but they "hoped to be able to advance the game far enough to make a full AAA disc title but they could not. You people act like you know so much on how things are but actually don't want to understand and show unbelievable ability to be biased and last but not least i own the best basketball game of all time NBA 2k11

Quit saying they had 8 months man. How you going to get on here talking about people acting like they know so much and then saying something this wrong? If they only had 8 months to work on this game, then that would mean they started on it in January. A typical development cycle for the NBA game starts in October right after or just prior to release of the current game. Even if you buy EA's talk about putting a team together in November, that's 10 months ago. That's not even touching the fact that Peter Moore (yeah, EA COO Peter Moore) said they had a talented team that already had the game up and running in August of LAST YEAR. Whatever though. Guess I'm not being truthful about things (that happened to be facts) and just being biased here.

# 359 SHAKYR @ 09/02/12 08:36 AM

This article says a lot and people are still going to defend EA even though they put their foot in their mouth. http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Jou...h/EA-NBA.aspx?

# 360 barimanlhs @ 09/02/12 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lon515


	Saying your stupid if you buy this over 2k is wrong. a game is for enjoyment and who are you to decide for someone else. if your not going to buy it thats fine but the point is its a new sports title that will 40 dollars cheaper so its is more available to a lot more people and should sell pretty well. but by you stating your hate and bashing is doing nothing but showing your immaturity and lack of knowledge.

It would sell much better if it were released on a disk. Its one thing to have parents see it at a gamestop, best buy, target, etc and see the $20 price tag, its another to look for it online, purchase it, and then download it (There arent as many people connected as you would think).

Even at the lower price point, the fact that it is online doesnt help it in sales. Sure it will get some purchases but most gamers will pass it over, especially if there is no demo.

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