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# 41 Pims33 @ 09/09/11 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerrick012


	Just wanted to quote this to point out how I lol'ed at CHuck in the back. Btw I know Ahmad Rashad's probably somewhere around there since he's always on MJ so hard.

No doubt ahaha... Ahmad Rashad is the biggest '(you know the word)'rider in the World.

# 42 Pims33 @ 09/09/11 07:25 PM

On topic:

Wow, MJ coming trough with a really good commercial, nice to see that.
Gotta agree with the '87 Lakers and '86 Celtics being able to beat the '96 Bulls and that the 80's were better in terms of teams and my team didn't even exist yet (OKC).

# 43 jd@os @ 09/09/11 07:48 PM

I'm going to say something that makes no sense at all, yet it makes sense:

I think the '86 Celtics and the '87 Lakers were better than the '96 Bulls. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls could beat either team in a 7 game series. Why? I believe in my own two eyes, and I never saw MJ lose a Finals series. I think he would go down guns blazing if it went to a game 7, willing his team to a victory.

Now, as far as the league being "watered down" in 1995-96: you can't help who you play. The Bulls played 82 regular season games and won 72 of them--72! They received the schedule from the NBA and then proceeded to whoop butt.

For those who disagree, look at it this way: I BLEED Tar Heel blue, and although I hate that Duke won in 2010, I take absolutely nothing away from them. Duke by far had the EASIEST road to the Final Four I've seen in quite sometime, but it's like I said before--you can't help who you play. Duke beat everyone in front of them, much like the Bulls of 1996.

# 44 coolcras7 @ 09/09/11 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pims33


	On topic: Wow, MJ coming trough with a really good commercial, nice to see that. Gotta agree with the '87 Lakers and '86 Celtics being able to beat the '96 Bulls and that the 80's were better in terms of teams and my team didn't even exist yet (OKC).

Better overall team I can agree with that, being able to beat the 96 Bulls not so much. The 96 Bulls won 72 games because their team chemistry was off the charts everyone knew their role, they also had the Greatest to play the game a guy that refuse to lose that year. Michael was dominating the Celtics and Lakers as a rookie in the 80's it just took awhile for the Bulls to get him the help he needed to win a championship, I would take the 96 Bulls over any other team in the history of the NBA.

# 45 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jd@os


	I'm going to say something that makes no sense at all, yet it makes sense: I think the '86 Celtics and the '87 Lakers were better than the '96 Bulls. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls could beat either team in a 7 game series. Why? I believe in my own two eyes, and I never saw MJ lose a Finals series. I think he would go down guns blazing if it went to a game 7, willing his team to a victory. Now, as far as the league being "watered down" in 1995-96: you can't help who you play. The Bulls played 82 regular season games and won 72 of them--72! They received the schedule from the NBA and then proceeded to whoop butt. For those who disagree, look at it this way: I BLEED Tar Heel blue, and although I hate that Duke won in 2010, I take absolutely nothing away from them. Duke by far had the EASIEST road to the Final Four I've seen in quite sometime, but it's like I said before--you can't help who you play. Duke beat everyone in front of them, much like the Bulls of 1996.

that's like saying I believe in my eyes and I never saw Jordan winning against those 80's teams, don't act like MJ never lost nothing

you can't help who you play of course but if you play weaker teams you got a better chance of winning, 96 Bulls in the 80's don't win 72 games period... compare the 80's teams against the 90's teams
you got some really good teams in the 90's but they don't compare to the 80's C's, showtime Lakers, fo-fo-fo Sixers, badboys Pistons, 80's Bucks... and also taking in account that some major 90's teams were already formed or almost formed in the 80's

# 46 jd@os @ 09/09/11 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	...don't act like MJ never lost nothing...

Calm down. Nobody ever said or acted like that.

# 47 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Better overall team I can agree with that, being able to beat the 96 Bulls not so much, the 96 Bulls won 72 games because their team chemistry was off the charts everyone knew their role, they also had the Greatest to play the game a guy that refuse to lose that year.

lmao, quit acting like their team chemistry was better than the 86 C's or showtime Lakers... they won 72 games because the league had some really good teams but many more terrible ones with the expansion and all, and because they had an amazing team with MJ and also Pippen, a top player in his own right
oh and I'm sorry for forgetting that 96 was the only year Jordan refused to lose

# 48 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jd@os


	Calm down. Nobody ever said or acted like that.

I'm calm man, it's all good

btw y'all should check the thread that somebody made about the 86 Cs in the pro basketball section

# 49 coolcras7 @ 09/09/11 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	that's like saying I believe in my eyes and I never saw Jordan winning against those 80's teams, don't act like MJ never lost nothing you can't help who you play of course but if you play weaker teams you got a better chance of winning, 96 Bulls in the 80's don't win 72 games period... compare the 80's teams against the 90's teams you got some really good teams in the 90's but they don't compare to the 80's C's, showtime Lakers, fo-fo-fo Sixers, badboys Pistons, 80's Bucks... and also taking in account that some major 90's teams were already formed or almost formed in the 80's

BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that there was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior to the 90's BS.

# 50 jd@os @ 09/09/11 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	I'm calm man, it's all good btw y'all should check the thread that somebody made about the 86 Cs in the pro basketball section

I'm good. No need to check it. I did say in my post that I thought the '86 Celtics were better than the '96 Bulls.

# 51 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that their was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior the 90's BS.

no BS, it's a fact... Pistons were done in the 90's, same for the Lakers and the Celtics
and two can play that game, the Jazz were already there in the 80's, the Rockets had a great team in the 80's also, Barkley was already rocking thins in the 80's, the Knicks were not bad also, plus you got all those other great teams
tell me this when discussions about the best teams of all time pop up, how many 90's are mentioned? as for the 80's you got always at least 4 teams

# 52 jd@os @ 09/09/11 08:58 PM

I know it's just the regular season, but the Bulls did beat the Rockets twice by double digits just one year later in 1996. No reason to think MJ wouldn't have stepped his game up in the Finals against them. They would've had no answer for The Dream, but Idk who would have stopped MJ and Pip.

# 53 magicman32 @ 09/09/11 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	BadBoy Piston existed in the 90's, then you had the Jazz, The Knicks, The Sonics, The Suns, The Rockets, The Spurs,The Pacers so don't give me that there was no competition in the 90's or that the 80's were superior to the 90's BS.

There was also The Orlando Magic with Shaq and Penny. And the Heat were a strong team in the mid 90's.

# 54 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd@os


	I'm good. No need to check it. I did say in my post that I thought the '86 Celtics were better than the '96 Bulls.

I also said it's all speculation though because they never went head-to-head, I'm just stating my thoughts, not only for the 86 C's but I also feel the same way for the 87 Lakers

# 55 jd@os @ 09/09/11 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	I also said it's all speculation though because they never went head-to-head, I'm just stating my thoughts, not only for the 86 C's but I also feel the same way for the 87 Lakers

I said they were better than the '96 Bulls, too.

# 56 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 09:04 PM

all those 90's teams y'all mentioned don't reach top teams discussions everytime almost like a fact as oppose to the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 86 Celtics and 89 Pistons
I'm not saying there was no competition in the 90's, you got plenty of really good teams but you also had, due to the expansion mostly, a lot of bad teams, really a lot... in the 80's you got all those top teams all-time and also other really good teams all around, including some that would become among the best in the 90's

# 57 coolcras7 @ 09/09/11 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	no BS, it's a fact... Pistons were done in the 90's, same for the Lakers and the Celtics and two can play that game, the Jazz were already there in the 80's, the Rockets had a great team in the 80's also, Barkley was already rocking thins in the 80's, the Knicks were not bad also, plus you got all those other great teams tell me this when discussions about the best teams of all time pop up, how many 90's are mentioned? as for the 80's you got always at least 4 teams

And when the discussion comes up of the greatest player and best team to ever play you have one player in both discussions Michael Jordan, The 80's Celtics and Lakers were stacked no disagreement there and the game was more about fundamentals, in the Late 80' to the present the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals.

# 58 coolcras7 @ 09/09/11 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CelticPride101


	all those 90's teams y'all mentioned don't reach top teams discussions everytime almost like a fact as oppose to the 87 Lakers, 83 Sixers, 86 Celtics and 89 Pistons I'm not saying there was no competition in the 90's, you got plenty of really good teams but you also had, due to the expansion mostly, a lot of bad teams, really a lot... in the 80's you got all those top teams all-time and also other really good teams all around, including some that would become among the best in the 90's

Your argument fails for one reason all the teams you mentions won the championship that year, the reason the 90's only had 3 was because of 1 Michael Jordan and the Bulls, the Bulls winning 6 in 8 years is the reason a lot of great teams will never got the respect the deserve you can't just claim that to be a great team you need to win it all, every year you had more than a handful of teams fighting for the championship.

# 59 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	And when the discussion comes up of the greatest player and best team to ever play you have one player in both discussions Michael Jordan, The 80's Celtics and Lakers were stacked no disagreement there and the game was more about fundamentals, in the Late 80' to the present the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals.

I'm talking about teams here and you can also have Magic, Kareem or Bird in those discussions, I'm not even getting into all that... and you got Jordan, a player, in best teams discussion?

as for the rest of your post I just laugh and I not gonna bother to answer because it didn't make no sense to me...
"the game evolved where you did not need an entire team of great players to win, you needed 2 stars/scoring options and role players because of the leap in athletic individuals"

# 60 CelticPride101 @ 09/09/11 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Your argument fails for one reason all the teams you mentions won the championship that year, the reason the 90's only had 3 was because of 1 Michael Jordan and the Bulls, the Bulls winning 6 in 8 years is the reason a lot of great teams will never got the respect the deserve you can't just claim that to be a great team you need to win it all.

the Celtics and the Lakers won multiples, same for the Pistons, the Sixers dominated and still contended while they could... they dominated and conteded, they had a great team all-around, in a era full of great teams
they didn't even win a title, they didn't dominate, they couldn't compare to the best 80's teams, only the Bulls can, they were really good but not all time good, add that to the bunch of bad teams the 90's had

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