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Staff Roundtable: How Are We Feeling About NCAA Football 12 Now?

04:42 PM - July 22, 2011 by ChaseB

It should come as no surprise that the community has found some issues with the game -- I really do feel like the folks here really are the best testers money can buy, even if that is not really what they set out to do -- and it has begun to split the community a bit.

That being said, I wanted to ask some of our writers how they were feeling about NCAA Football 12 at this point. Even knowing about some of the bugs and issues we know about now, how are they liking the game and the experience it is bringing to the table.

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# 161 ODogg @ 07/24/11 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spanky


	You should have quit while you were behind. Your explanation makes less sense than your original comment. You've had a fantastic time when it hasn't froze on you? WTF? Doesn't the fact that it has frozen on you multiple times preclude it from being "fantastic?'' And I don't even know where to start with your comment about the sandwich having a piece of gristle in every other bite. I don't know about you, but one piece of gristle would ruin the sandwich for me. And this game is chok-ful of gristle. "Remove the gristle and you've got a fantastic sandwich?'' Well, yeah. But how much gristle has EA removed? And do you really think they'll be able to remove a large portion of it? I've noticed over the years that you seem to be overly effusive with your praise towards EA's football titles. EA thanks you. But I'm not going to bend over and shout "Thank you, Sir. May I have another.''

I'm not going to argue with you over what is essentially a difference of opinion. As for what you call "overly effusive praise for EA" comment, that too is your opinion but my opinion is people like you have selective memories as to what you see on here. My cons list was list for this game was longer than my pros list when I reviewed this title. And i have not hesitated to hold EAs feet to the fire to fix glitches, such as the freezing issue, fixing injuries and online dynasty bugs. Maybe, go view my thread calljng EA out on not allowing commishes to edit other players In OD.

Bottom line, I'm sorry if I'm not more hateful, vile or angry towards EA to suit you. I'm sorry I don't gnash my teeth in enough agony and lament purchasing the game. I have already got about 65 to 70 hours of play out of this game, warts and all, and that's a lot of entertainment value in my book..

Silly food analogies aside I consider this a fantastic football title in dire need of a patch for the well known major issues. If that rubs you the wrong way then sorry I ruined your day but I call them like I see em.

# 162 ODogg @ 07/24/11 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by canes21


	I don't understand why so many people get fired up when people like myself and Odogg say we're having great times with the game. This game is easily the best football gme I've ever played. Does it have problems? Definitely, there is no doubt

I believe that people who get angry if others like the game do so because they are envious that others can enjoy the game and they can't coupled with their belief that if only everyone else was as miserable and angry toward EA as they are then EA would actually step up and dramatically make over the series ala Triple Play baseball and the NHL series.

All I know is it's by far the best football title I have played since Front Page Sports Football on the PC. And I've been playing video football games since I played Realsports Football on my Atari 2600 back in the day...

# 163 jkra0512 @ 07/24/11 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by finfn1372


	You know what this forum needs its own sub-forum,so all the whiners and complainers can go too.I hate coming here and having to sift thru 10 threads to find 1 with good information.By the way I love the game.

Easy guy, throwing out "whiners" and "complainers" is just as bad as others calling people "EA Apologists." You aren't helping the problem. This thread has helped keep many of the complaints contained in here.

Sorry the world doesn't revolve around your love of the game. Others have legitimate gripes with the game and they have the right to know why it's like that.

You can rag on us "whiners" and "complainers" all you want, but we are trying to build a better game, plus we want to know why promised features of the game do not work like promised (You know, like the feature set printed on the back of the box).

I'm happy you enjoy it, but just because YOU do doesn't mean everyone else has to. World doesn't work that way, guy.

# 164 ODogg @ 07/24/11 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jkra0512


	Easy guy, throwing out "whiners" and "complainers" is just as bad as others calling people "EA Apologists." You aren't helping the problem. This thread has helped keep many of the complaints contained in here. Sorry the world doesn't revolve around your love of the game. Others have legitimate gripes with the game and they have the right to know why it's like that. You can rag on us "whiners" and "complainers" all you want, but we are trying to build a better game, plus we want to know why promised features of the game do not work like promised (You know, like the feature set printed on the back of the box). I'm happy you enjoy it, but just because YOU do doesn't mean everyone else has to. World doesn't work that way, guy.

You can point out issues with the game in a reasonable and intelligent manner though without simply being a whiny, angry and "I'm fed up" attitude is what I think his point was. Although it may not win you points with those here who hate EA and cause them to call you an EA apologist or whatever, the truth is that it will get you taken much more seriously with actually getting problems in the game fixed in the long run..

# 165 mkharsh33 @ 07/24/11 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOPARADIGM


	And there is just one example of why it's impossible to take anything anyone says around here seriously.

LOL! Yeah, I'm a blind idiot who shouldn't be taken seriously here... Thanks for sharing...

# 166 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/24/11 01:28 AM

LOL at people not allowed to express their anger and frustration.

# 167 DJ @ 07/24/11 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I believe that people who get angry if others like the game do so because they are envious that others can enjoy the game and they can't coupled with their belief that if only everyone else was as miserable and angry toward EA as they are then EA would actually step up and dramatically make over the series ala Triple Play baseball and the NHL series. All I know is it's by far the best football title I have played since Front Page Sports Football on the PC. And I've been playing video football games since I played Realsports Football on my Atari 2600 back in the day...

I think I'm more upset with myself for treading into the roster glitch thread than anything else. Call me naive, but I wasn't noticing a huge difference in gameplay once I downloaded buckeye02's roster on the PS3, compared to when I used the default rosters.

Now, I'm looking for things instead of just playing the game and having fun, and I HATE that. Hopefully a patch fixes the issue and the roster guys won't have to re-input all of that data.

I'm going back to playing the game. Is it perfect? No. Is it fun? To me, yes it is.

# 168 ODogg @ 07/24/11 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	LOL at people not allowed to express their anger and frustration.

...or people not allowed to share their enjoyment of the game

# 169 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/24/11 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	...or people not allowed to share their enjoyment of the game

This game could be good if this bug was fixed. I'll give you that, but right now I'm not happy with EA, and I've put the game up until it's patched.

# 170 ODogg @ 07/24/11 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ


	I think I'm more upset with myself for treading into the roster glitch thread than anything else. Call me naive, but I wasn't noticing a huge difference in gameplay once I downloaded buckeye02's roster on the PS3, compared to when I used the default rosters. Now, I'm looking for things instead of just playing the game and having fun, and I HATE that. Hopefully a patch fixes the issue and the roster guys won't have to re-input all of that data. I'm going back to playing the game. Is it perfect? No. Is it fun? To me, yes it is.

Oh I know what you mean, honestly I think folks are seeing a lot of stuff and attributing it to the rosters and it has nothing to do with the rosters. Its just wishful thinking that the roster patch will fix ever issue with the game. Placebo effect in full force right now I do believe..

I do know last night I played a couple of games against Michigan and Illinois and in both games the QBs ran on me. This issuing Carson3s rosters on the Xbox. Now maybe without the named rosters they would have ran more, I don't know but it's not as if they never run at all. I can live with it until the patch...

# 171 mkharsh33 @ 07/24/11 01:36 AM

I appreciate both sides of the argument here...

Personally, I'm seeing terrible offensive lineman logic (noted by the video posted a few pages back those shows the offensive guards getting walked around like a tree), strong and free safeties that have TERRIBLE db logic - which allows for the slot receiver or tight end to run free in the middle of the field 90% of the time, and a known roster glitch that changes the way scrambling quarterbacks play. Not to mention that EA hasn't figured out an intelligent cpu logic for teams that run the option...

I'm glad others enjoy it. I do to a degree, but I refuse to be labeled as a fool for pointing out things that are obvious flaws. Gaming sites that are giving this game high reviews of 9's or higher should be ashamed. With these OUT OF THE BOX FLAWS, I'd give it a 7.5 (generously) out of 10. Yes, some good to it, but a LOT of bad as well. If you guys love it, great... But don't point a finger at me for simply stating the obvious...

# 172 jkra0512 @ 07/24/11 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	You can point out issues with the game in a reasonable and intelligent manner though without simply being a whiny, angry and "I'm fed up" attitude is what I think his point was. Although it may not win you points with those here who hate EA and cause them to call you an EA apologist or whatever, the truth is that it will get you taken much more seriously with actually getting problems in the game fixed in the long run..

I have expressed my views on the game in an intelligent and reasonable manner. But, just because I have a negative opinion on a game doesn't mean I should be labeled as a whiner or complainer. That's where the line is crossed, generalizations do no good.

So, I find a few things to be overly annoying and I want others to know about it to see if they experience the same thing? If not, I don't try and convince them, I move on.

I'm not sitting here trying to get those who enjoy the game to come over a "EA hate bandwagon." But, for those who like the game to sit there and pick off people who have a problem with the game, well, isn't helping the matter at all.

We are all striving toward the same goal, it's just some people are more satisfied than others.

# 173 finfn1372 @ 07/24/11 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jkra0512


	I have expressed my views on the game in an intelligent and reasonable manner. But, just because I have a negative opinion on a game doesn't mean I should be labeled as a whiner or complainer. That's where the line is crossed, generalizations do no good. So, I find a few things to be overly annoying and I want others to know about it to see if they experience the same thing? If not, I don't try and convince them, I move on. I'm not sitting here trying to get those who enjoy the game to come over a "EA hate bandwagon." But, for those who like the game to sit there and pick off people who have a problem with the game, well, isn't helping the matter at all. We are all striving toward the same goal, it's just some people are more satisfied than others.

I'm dealing with the same problems everybody's dealing with,but i'm not gonna come here and complain that the game's 'broke' i'm trading it in etc.etc.How's that productive to ea fixing the problem's?There's certain ways to go about things,but to act like that you'll never be taken seriously.

# 174 jkra0512 @ 07/24/11 01:58 AM

Acting like what? I'm not understanding what you are trying to say here. I'm not acting like anything, I gave my opinion and that was that. I don't have problems with people liking the game, so I think you need to back off of me a little here.

# 175 finfn1372 @ 07/24/11 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jkra0512


	Acting like what? I'm not understanding what you are trying to say here. I'm not acting like anything, I gave my opinion and that was that. I don't have problems with people liking the game, so I think you need to back off of me a little here.

I'm not directing anything at you in particular I just feel if you want something fixed, there's a certain way you should go about it that's all, and i'll leave it at that.

# 176 bkrich83 @ 07/24/11 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jkra0512


	I have expressed my views on the game in an intelligent and reasonable manner. But, just because I have a negative opinion on a game doesn't mean I should be labeled as a whiner or complainer. That's where the line is crossed, generalizations do no good. So, I find a few things to be overly annoying and I want others to know about it to see if they experience the same thing? If not, I don't try and convince them, I move on. I'm not sitting here trying to get those who enjoy the game to come over a "EA hate bandwagon." But, for those who like the game to sit there and pick off people who have a problem with the game, well, isn't helping the matter at all. We are all striving toward the same goal, it's just some people are more satisfied than others.

I don't think anyone can take issue with the way you've gone about it.

# 177 jkra0512 @ 07/24/11 02:08 AM

LOL I think I'm just going to take a back seat to this thread because it seems brothers are turning on brothers here and that's not how it should be. We are all striving toward the same goal and I would like to think that we are doing that, collectively.

I will say this, for those who are enjoying the game, I am geniunely happy for you and I hope that continues. I will try my best to take the game for what it's worth and hope it improves to give me the same enjoyment as you're having.

# 178 bkrich83 @ 07/24/11 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jkra0512


	LOL I think I'm just going to take a back seat to this thread because it seems brothers are turning on brothers here and that's not how it should be. We are all striving toward the same goal and I would like to think that we are doing that, collectively. I will say this, for those who are enjoying the game, I am geniunely happy for you and I hope that continues. I will try my best to take the game for what it's worth and hope it improves to give me the same enjoyment as you're having.

If it's not fun simply move on. This is supposed to be a hobby. The second it stops being fun it's no longer a hobby. if that makes sense. Hell even if NCAA and Madden were unplayable for me, I'd still have The Show to occupy me.

# 179 hendeeze @ 07/24/11 02:17 AM

6.0 out of 10 Went up 1 point from last year for the new tackling animations which look amazing. To bad everything else is the same or worse or broken. Disconnected bland commentary and environment. RTG for all the improvements looks to be about 1/4 complete. I can see why they didn't notice the roster bug, considering they always used #'s instead of names. But the freezing but is ridiculous. Do I have fun playing the game? Yea kinda, but really no MORE fun then playing Ncaa 09 or a previous years title, as its pretty much the same

# 180 bkrich83 @ 07/24/11 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniels2386


	So what you guys think about a BETA? lol

Not helpful. This is the stuff we were talking about.

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