12:19 AM - June 17, 2011 by illwill10
According to Pastapadre and Kotaku, Phil Frazier (Executive Producer for Madden NFL) is the latest to leave EA Sports Tiburon.
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Madden 12 News Post
12:19 AM - June 17, 2011 by illwill10According to Pastapadre and Kotaku, Phil Frazier (Executive Producer for Madden NFL) is the latest to leave EA Sports Tiburon.
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u can disagree all u want
fact is....I skipped madden until M10...the previous titles weren;t worth my money.
NFL wouldn't let EA....oops...*strongly encouraged EA* to not use ESPN..and besides....if EA DID use the ESPN license I'm pretty sure guys like u would be the first to post..."yada yada...i saw that 7 years ago..yada yada..." (c'mon, admit it, you know would...LOL)
and.....have to disagree with u just dismissing camera angles so quickly....those things are huge.....many of those angles are from the same angles that CBS uses..and more (NFL FILMS)...they alone add so much more to presentation.
i'm not here to get into a phssing match with u on 2k.....i was a fanboy myself--go look up my posts from 2004!...heck I still play APF when i need my gameplay fix.
alos..Adembroski said that Ian & Co. spent a lot of time building tools that would allow for huge leaps & bounds in their yearly dev cycle....i think you'll see that for M12 & beyond.
I've made peace with NFL gaming....maybe it would do u some good to as well
your choice
Seeing Phil leave doesn't get me upset, theres always a lot changeover in any big company. People want to move on to next stage of their career, I wish Phil the best of luck at his new gig.
I would be upset if Josh Looman left though. If he left, then EA would have a lot of problems replacing 3 big cogs in basically one years time.
I would be upset if Josh Looman left though. If he left, then EA would have a lot of problems replacing 3 big cogs in basically one years time.
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Blitzburgh @ 06/17/11 02:47 PM
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dueces
;o)
BTW...whats the alternative?
*make Youtube vids showing APF/2K5 highlights?..nah...lame use of time
*spend countless hours on a gaming website with my captain obvious cape on reminding/telling everyone how superior 2k was?.......again....lame use of time
nope...not for me
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"What's understood doesn't need to be said."
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2K5 had great presentation. It was the standard. But ESPN Sunday Night Football no longer comes on TV, and it would be foolish for Madden to attempt to reflect a dated broadcast experience. If you watch CBS football games, you can tell that's where the influence on Madden comes from and they seem to have captured it well (the videos suggest that at least).
Seems to me you're not impressed b/c it doesn't look like that other game. And I'm not suggesting the presentation in Madden will be on that level. But I think you're ignoring that the broadcast experience has changed IRL.
First off, I wish Phil the best of luck with what ever his next endeavor is.
As far as my reaction to him leaving, I can't say that I see it as negatively as most on this thread. Before you sick the dogs, let me explain.
I am not a huge fan of a lot of aspects of the game, so it would stand to reason that I would not be against any of the team leaving. Could the new regime be worse? Of course it could, but if you have major issues already, wouldn't you risk it?
This is nothing personal against Phil or Ian. I am just unhappy with the state of the game that they were a part of producing. Do I think there are needed improvements made in 12? Yes. Do I think that the title is probably headed in the right direction? Yes, but I also feel that, from my vantage point at least, that though it may be headed in the right direction, it will take a very long time to reach its destination.
So again, good luck to Phil and Ian. I am looking for radical changes to be made to the game. Maybe Phil and Ian would have made those radical changes eventually. Maybe they wanted to do them long ago. I don't know. I can only go by the product on the shelf, as I don't work at EA/Tiburon. Judging it by that alone, I'd be lying if I said I was sorry that any particular dev or lead left.
Just my opinion, and absolutely nothing personal.
As far as my reaction to him leaving, I can't say that I see it as negatively as most on this thread. Before you sick the dogs, let me explain.
I am not a huge fan of a lot of aspects of the game, so it would stand to reason that I would not be against any of the team leaving. Could the new regime be worse? Of course it could, but if you have major issues already, wouldn't you risk it?
This is nothing personal against Phil or Ian. I am just unhappy with the state of the game that they were a part of producing. Do I think there are needed improvements made in 12? Yes. Do I think that the title is probably headed in the right direction? Yes, but I also feel that, from my vantage point at least, that though it may be headed in the right direction, it will take a very long time to reach its destination.
So again, good luck to Phil and Ian. I am looking for radical changes to be made to the game. Maybe Phil and Ian would have made those radical changes eventually. Maybe they wanted to do them long ago. I don't know. I can only go by the product on the shelf, as I don't work at EA/Tiburon. Judging it by that alone, I'd be lying if I said I was sorry that any particular dev or lead left.
Just my opinion, and absolutely nothing personal.
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I'm not trying to "prove" anything. I'm asking, what is in my opinion to be, a valid question. If you don't agree, I don't know what to tell you, but then I also didn't pose the question to you either.
"From GameInformer: EA Sports has confirmed that NCAA executive producer Roy Harvey will take over Frazier's role and act as dual EPs for both franchises until the company names a successor for the NCAA series"
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RogueHominid @ 06/17/11 03:35 PM
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jeremym480 @ 06/17/11 03:49 PM
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Disclaimer- I'm still hoping that M12 has a complete OF though.
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Now it looks like Madden 12's franchise will crush NCAA 12's dynasty, but that isn't too hard since NCAA really hasn't changed their mode in years besides the layout. They added a coaching carousel, but it still is bland and really doesn't look like it will do much this year besides make playbooks change over time.
leaving... where is my super easy to implement server side patch ? 
Maybe the new guy will finish online franchise mode
Maybe the new guy will finish online franchise mode
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Gotmadskillzson @ 06/17/11 04:20 PM
Roy Harvey ??? Dang........Wonder why Josh wasn't made the head. Or Mike Scantlebury. Maybe those 2 like staying behind the scenes I guess.
It doesn't matter who is the lead, who is executive. That individual will be hated, reviled, loved, supported, bashed, insulted, exalted, and everything in between.
There is no answer, only Zuul.
There is no answer, only Zuul.
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adembroski @ 06/17/11 05:01 PM
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To address how this affects Madden; Cam Weber has really set us on a course that I believe is going to result in great things from Madden in the future. I think he's a fine leader and has a great sim oriented vision for Madden.
If you'd told me six months ago that Ian and Phil (the two people most instramental in bringing me here) would be gone by the time I finished my first contract, I don't think I'd have come... but I just signed my extention, and I'm going to stay, because I believe in where Cam is taking us. I'm nervous, because now I'm here without any of the people who brought me here, but I'm going to be working my *** off to prove myself.
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