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09:17 AM - April 21, 2011 by ChaseB

At this point in a console generation, it feels like sports games are at an advantage and disadvantage. On the one hand, developers should have an immense amount of understanding of the consoles they are working on now. This means adding those extra little elements of joy and polish can be more easily worked into the development of a game. However, it seems like it would be almost crazy to talk about installing an all-new physics engine or something else along those lines at this point in a console's life cycle. Changes like that just seem to happen more often than not at the start of a new console generation.

And NCAA Football 12 might epitomize that double-edged sword. Some of the tweaks that I was shown and was able to mess around with are immediately noticeable and mostly positive, but for folks wanting widespread change, a new engine or some masterful stroke of development genius that will create this all-new football game should probably reel in their expectations a bit.

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# 181 guttertalk @ 04/25/11 12:38 AM

So, in terms of gameplay, we're not getting any real new features. We're getting bug fixes. But instead of getting them in a patch, we're going to pay $60 for these fixes.

Screw it.

# 182 blackscorpion11 @ 04/25/11 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by guttertalk


	So, in terms of gameplay, we're not getting any real new features. We're getting bug fixes. But instead of getting them in a patch, we're going to pay $60 for these fixes. Screw it.

Its funny u mention that, because how does fixing something that was broken become a "New" feature.. "This year we fixed zone coverage" Huh?

This is why i say that each year they need to focus on gameplay..not presentation etc. Maybe its not possible to create a physics based game with the engine theyre using.

# 183 blackscorpion11 @ 04/25/11 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	Hopefully the gameplay upgrades are actual upgrades and not more "Cheat AI" ie.. DB's knowing the routes of WR even more to get rid of the slants being money. Here's hoping the game shines though as I'm getting to the point of really missing FB games.

exactly my thought..more psychic cpu defense...so now the AI adjust zone coverage pre-snap based on the play art?

# 184 cparrish @ 04/25/11 02:59 AM

I for one am glad they are fixing the zone coverages. They were un-usable in NCAA 11. I have found myself running man only all the time. As for people complaining about these fixes are not what they want, I have a solution for you; don't buy the game. It is simple as that.

# 185 PVarck31 @ 04/25/11 03:51 AM

Should they just leave defensive AI, and the tackling system alone? So many people say gameplay is the number one priority and when they are fixing core gameplay issues people complain.

I get the concern for how they are fixing it. I really don't think they would be touting these fixes if they just tuned the defense to cheat better. Thats just how I feel anyway.

I also think we need to keep things in prospective. We basically have seen one video and a few interviews. I am sure there will be plenty of info in the coming weeks.

# 186 cgalligan @ 04/25/11 07:13 AM

Do they still have the "tumble-weed" tackling?

ie- when the player is enganged in a tackle, can anothe player help? or does he just run over and fall down like in Madden and NCAA last year???

# 187 Skyboxer @ 04/25/11 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 31


	Should they just leave defensive AI, and the tackling system alone? So many people say gameplay is the number one priority and when they are fixing core gameplay issues people complain. I get the concern for how they are fixing it. I really don't think they would be touting these fixes if they just tuned the defense to cheat better. Thats just how I feel anyway. I also think we need to keep things in prospective. We basically have seen one video and a few interviews. I am sure there will be plenty of info in the coming weeks.

If they are actual fixes of course I'll be all over it. I wish the crew the best of luck releasing a great game.

# 188 coogrfan @ 04/25/11 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by guttertalk


	So, in terms of gameplay, we're not getting any real new features. We're getting bug fixes. But instead of getting them in a patch, we're going to pay $60 for these fixes. Screw it.

New tackling mechanics? Custom playbooks?

That's about as "core gameplay" as it gets.

# 189 Rhudey @ 04/25/11 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cparrish


	I for one am glad they are fixing the zone coverages. They were un-usable in NCAA 11. I have found myself running man only all the time. As for people complaining about these fixes are not what they want, I have a solution for you; don't buy the game. It is simple as that.

When EA signed their exclusivity deal it eliminated the "don't buy it" argument.

On the other hand, I personally loved last years game and am looking forward to 12, but I remember playing hand held "head to head football" as my only football game, so I'm not as picky as others.

# 190 dan_457 @ 04/25/11 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cgalligan


	Do they still have the "tumble-weed" tackling? ie- when the player is enganged in a tackle, can anothe player help? or does he just run over and fall down like in Madden and NCAA last year???

I absolutely hated that, it's beyond unrealistic and just looks silly, I know I'd love to see that fixed.

# 191 PVarck31 @ 04/25/11 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhudey


	When EA signed their exclusivity deal it eliminated the "don't buy it" argument. On the other hand, I personally loved last years game and am looking forward to 12, but I remember playing hand held "head to head football" as my only football game, so I'm not as picky as others.

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Originally Posted by dan_457


	I absolutely hated that, it's beyond unrealistic and just looks silly, I know I'd love to see that fixed.

This is basically what all the previews have been about. You can see better tackling in the video. Now I am not saying its fixed, but they are saying it is, along with sliding and suction.

# 192 dan_457 @ 04/25/11 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 31


	This is basically what all the previews have been about. You can see better tackling in the video. Now I am not saying its fixed, but they are saying it is, along with sliding and suction.

The previews have shown off a much improved tackling system so I'm hopeful that fixed it, I know it hasn't been shown in any of the videos. It's a problem that happens when there's no room for defenders in the tackle animation, so they just roll over at the offensive players feet to slow his progress. I don't remember them explicitly saying that this was fixed in any of the videos though.

# 193 roadman @ 04/25/11 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dan_457


	The previews have shown off a much improved tackling system so I'm hopeful that fixed it, I know it hasn't been shown in any of the videos. It's a problem that happens when there's no room for defenders in the tackle animation, so they just roll over at the offensive players feet to slow his progress. I don't remember them explicitly saying that this was fixed in any of the videos though.

Have you seen this video, yet? I feel like I'm showing it in every thread.

For the first 42 seconds, this video shows several consecutive hit tackles for momentum.

In the past, these would have been the "tumbleweed tackling" you've been looking for in 12.

http://ncaastrategies.com/utopia/top...-12-new-video/

# 194 dan_457 @ 04/25/11 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Have you seen this video, yet? I feel like I'm showing it in every thread. For the first 42 seconds, this video shows several consecutive hit tackles for momentum. In the past, these would have been the "tumbleweed tackling" you've been looking for in 12. http://ncaastrategies.com/utopia/top...-12-new-video/

After looking at it more closely, it does look like it won't be an issue. You can see a couple instances of the 3rd guy to the ball carrier respond naturally, rather than just falling over.

# 195 SoulAssassin @ 04/25/11 05:32 PM

Nice.

Enough info to get excited at least.

# 196 tsooners @ 04/27/11 11:32 AM

Will we finally see the Sooner Schooner and Ruff-Neks in the game?

# 197 The GIGGAS @ 04/27/11 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tsooners


	Will we finally see the Sooner Schooner and Ruff-Neks in the game?

I believe the Schooner is. As I'm not an Okie fan, I don't know what Ruff-Neks is, so I can't comment on that.

# 198 tsooners @ 04/27/11 11:57 AM

Thanks. Not seeing pic or link though.

# 199 tsooners @ 04/27/11 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnZapp


	you dont????

Nope. Not seeing it.

# 200 falconfansince81 @ 04/27/11 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PatriotJames


	All this won't matter if they never get PSN back up and running... R.I.P. PS3

yes the outage his pretty much killed off our online franchises but i'm PRETTY sure it'll be up by july 12th lol.

as for the video, i love seeing the focus on gameplay and presentation. two core elements that deliver realism and authenticity. there are both positives and negatives, but i already enjoyed the game thoroughly last year and any improvement made to the AI and gameplay fundamentals will be a bonus on top of added presentation. there is still a lot of room for improvement but it looks to remain headed in the right direction.

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