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Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

06:45 AM - March 8, 2011 by Steve_OS

The Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters demo is available now for the Xbox 360.

UPDATE: The PS3 demo will not arrive until tomorrow at 6:00 PM EST.

UPDATE #2: Contrary to what the facebook page states, the demo is now available on the PS3. Enjoy.

Please post your impressions here.

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	"The long awaited Augusta National Golf Club is now available in the Tiger Woods PGA TOUR� 12: The Masters demo on Xbox� 360 and PlayStation� 3! Approach the tee box of the famous closing hole during the tournament�s final round in your quest to become the Masters champion and don the Green Jacket. In the �Play Now� setting, live that **** moment and have the first opportunity to play Augusta National�s par-4 18th. See the distinct Masters experience and hear the iconic voice of long-time Masters announcer, Jim Nantz, throughout the demo. Nantz sets the stage as Tiger Woods charges up the leaderboard in chase of his fifth Green Jacket. Take control of Tiger Woods on the final hole and attempt to be crowned Masters champion, while the all-new commentary team of Nantz, and the always entertaining David Feherty, call the action. In �Road to the Masters� mode, play holes 1-5 at TPC San Antonio Oaks Course - an all-new course to the Tiger Woods PGA TOUR franchise. Complete the five holes in the demo and jumpstart your career in the full retail version* by bypassing the EA SPORTS� Amateur Tour and proceeding straight to the Nationwide Tour. The PlayStation 3 version of the demo will support the PlayStation Move controller to fully replicate an authentic golf swing. Looking for an even more immersive golf interaction? The demo can also be played in True View mode � a first-person vantage point that is new to the PlayStation 3 with the Move controller. Additional information about the Masters Tournament, the all-new career mode, Caddie/Course Mastery, new golfers and courses, and a host of other new features are detailed in the demo. Share the demo with friends to earn additional experience points (XP)."

Source - Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Blog

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# 141 rangerrick012 @ 03/24/11 10:02 PM

Well I'm getting it. For one I didn't get TW 11 and need a golf fix. And for 2, I didn't like the version of True Aim in the TW 11 demo, but do like True Aim in tournament mode in TW 12 demo. Though the caddy is an annoyance at times and do hope EA patches in the option to turn it off completely, it isn't nearly the game killer some of you guys are making it out to be. All things considered I'm ready for TW 12 and hoping it's a great experience.

I still think that even w/ the caddy it's still in the player's hands to hit the shots necessary. And I do find that I do better on my own than by using the caddy's suggestions, which somewhat puts to bed the notion that it's only a game of matching percentages now.

# 142 RockyTop1 @ 03/24/11 10:08 PM

$25 post purchase credit on Amazon just announced tonight. Very solid deal

# 143 Rules @ 03/24/11 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyTop1


	$25 post purchase credit on Amazon just announced tonight. Very solid deal

No brainer I'm keeping my TW12 preorder.

# 144 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti


	You need to read the last couple of pages of this thread.

This is to the poster that Seymour's post quoted above was to.

Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

# 145 The Bimmer @ 03/25/11 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivasIrons


	This is to the poster that Seymour's post quoted above was to. Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

If you base this statement on the fact that you cannot see the distance of your clubs at the tee box, you are incorrect sir.

# 146 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ShivasIrons


	Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

Sorry, but I just played TW11 in TOUR Pro with TrueAim, then played Tournament mode in TW12 and I completely disagree. They are EXACTLY the same with the following exceptions:

1) TW11 gives you distance to the hole, TW12 does not. They both give you distances to the front and rear of the green as well as yardage markers in the fairway.

2) When aiming in Zoomed mode, TW11 does not change the aim at the tee where TW12 changing the aim in Zoom applies to the aim at the tee. TW12 does allow for the aim or "view" to change while zoomed whereas TW11 TrueAim does not, but you can still do the same thing in TW11, y backing out of Zoom, changing club type, then zoom in again to get the new aim or "view". It just takes longer in TW11, but you can do the exact same thing as 12 as far as this part of the game is concerned.

I would like to see them change the aim in 12 to where you can only adjust it from the ball position and not in Zoomed mode. Other than those two features, TrueAim is exactly the same as 11.

As for your last comment in BOLD, the same thing can be said of both 11 and 12.

# 147 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bimmer


	If you base this statement on the fact that you cannot see the distance of your clubs at the tee box, you are incorrect sir.

I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean.

# 148 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 10:36 AM

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	That's Divot getting the benefit of the doubt. But I am going to be really irritated if I cannot play without being given a line to the perfect shot and the % I need to hit the ball to do that. I was really shocked to see his support of the game this year, as it felt like the complete opposite of what he would want. He helped explain and sell me on TrueAim last year. But I'm assuming I missed something if the guy that pimped TrueAim last year is really believing that the mode is still there. It's still a problem that my carrying distance is not given. Considering our player is constantly evolving, it is not a static number.

You are not given a line to the perfect shot in Tournament mode. TOUR Pro does have this along with the putting circle which is thankfully NOT in Tournament mode. I will fire up the demo to see if the shot lines are in TOUR Pro with TrueAim on.

True Aim IS in TW12 as my post above verifies this. There are some very minute differences, but the core functionality is the same as TW11, IMO.

# 149 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DivotMaker


	?.. 2) When aiming in Zoomed mode, TW11 does not change the aim at the tee where TW12 changing the aim in Zoom applies to the aim at the tee. TW12 does allow for the aim or "view" to change while zoomed whereas TW11 TrueAim does not, but you can still do the same thing in TW11, y backing out of Zoom, changing club type, then zoom in again to get the new aim or "view". It just takes longer in TW11, but you can do the exact same thing as 12.

True Aim has to with AIMING. In TW11 True Aim, one could only aim from the perspective of the player and the ball. ALL aiming had to be done from this perspective. This is not the case in TW12, Tournament mode.

In TW12, you can aim while zoomed out. In fact, if you click on the LS a few times when zoomed out you get even more zoom and you get to see a small area where you are aimed. You can adjust your aim from this super-zoomed view. You can change clubs while zoomed and the view automatically changes for that club. You can make shot adjustments while zoomed, and the zoomed camera will adjust in real time as you make the adjustments. You can put loft on a club, and the zoomed camera view of your aiming area changes in real time as you apply loft. While zoomed you can put draw or fade on the ball and the zoomed camera view of your aiming point changes as you adjust it. You could do none of this in True Aim in TW11.

If you want a good comparison of the aiming in the two. Compare putting draw or fade on a shot in True Aim in TW 11 to Tournament mode in TW 12, which can be done in real time while super-zoomed out.

Divotmaker, you have your head so far up EA's rear that you aren't objective.

# 150 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 10:49 AM

Jayhawker,

Fired up the demo in TOUR Pro with TrueAim on. You have to set these up in the Game Options menu before you play any round in the demo. When using TrueAim in TOUR Pro, you get a shot line per the caddy's recommendation, but if you hit the D pad and select a custom shot, all you get is a cursor showing your distance potential of your club as well as the elevation from the tee. From the fairway, you get the same, but you also get a landing circle for each club. In Tournament mode, you get NONE of these features. Hope this helps.

# 151 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 11:44 AM

Seymour, .. I'd rather have the aiming marker, but I can live without it. The center of the screen is where one is aimed.

The caddy does take into account wind, if you elect to follow his recommendations. I've even noticed the caddy applying fade and draw to counter-act wind on shots.

As far as distance to the pin, it's easily figured by looking at the gps figures given to the front and back of the green and then counting the squares on the green grid. Playing with Tiger, the green grid is 1 yard for each square. A little more work, but I can live with it.

As far as elevation, I agree you can't really tell in this game like you can in real life. But, what is going to happen with the hardcore crowd is that they'll have notes for each hole/shot where there is elevation change. You can get the elevation change playing another difficulty level, and the easiest way will likely be to use practice mode and move your ball around to get elevation change info. Now, this all seems like a lot more work, but I'm sure there will be plenty of hardcore players with this info at their fingertips. It just seems a little ridiculous to have to do all that.

# 152 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 12:25 PM

Agreed. There really seems to be a lack of a voice for the "sim style" player at EA. They just really don't understand it. I thought they were moving in the right direction with TW11 True Aim, but they really screwed it up in 12.

I don't think they come out with any serious patch, either. Hope I'm wrong. But, why patch it when so many are going to buy it anyway because of Augusta. There's no money to be made in patching the game. They'll likely just go on to making next year's game, as they'll want to come up with some new genius feature to make $60 or more again off everyone next year.

# 153 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 12:43 PM

Jayhawker, ... I think what Divotmaker was trying to say was that in True Aim in TW11 you could zoom out and the camera view given to you will allow you to see where you are aimed. Then, you can take off the zoom and go back to the tee and adjust your aim from the tee or change clubs. Then, you could zoom in again to see where you are aimed. By going through this process several times, he states it's "exactly" the same as Tournament Mode in 12.

However, it's not the same, and it's far from realistic to adjust aiming while zoomed out. And, applying all the adjustments like loft, draw, fade, while zoomed out in 12, results in moving your aimed landing area in real time. None of this could be done in 11.

Like I said, these differences are most easily seen if you try applying fade or draw. In 12, you can do it while zoomed out in real time. Your zoomed out landing area changes as you apply draw or fade. In 11, you can only adjust your fade or draw from the tee, and it changes nothing when you zoom out. You see the same view zoomed out in 11 whether you put max fade or max draw. It's more realistic in this manner, imho. You don't get to zoom out to see almost exactly where your ball will land with draw or fade applied. You just hope you get it right from the tee.

# 154 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 12:56 PM

I hear what your saying on skipping a year. I would if it wasn't for the new courses, esp Augusta, Atlanta Athletic Club and Royal Melbourne.

I hope I will learn to like the game. If not, I'm not likely to buy most of the DLC. I figure I'll just pop in TW11 to play those courses, as they're about the same.

An EA developer posted at that forum that about 13-14 percent of the rounds in TW11 were on Tour Pro and True Aim. That's not a small amount, and these people are likely their more hardcore customers. One would think that one difficulty level out of four could be devoted to them.

# 155 callmetaternuts @ 03/25/11 01:02 PM

The problem is they exaggerated what the caddie does in the game as opposed to what he does in real life. Watch any PGA Tour event (live or TV) and when you hear them talk (player and caddie) they discuss wind, elevation, distance to front of hazard/green, carry distance of hazard, or distance to back and recommend a club. That's it. They don't walk up to the green and say this will end up here. The caddie's are overpowered.

I've played with a caddie a ton and had my brother caddie for me in 2 tournaments. It's helpful information, but means nothing if you don;t hit the right shot, which is on the player to set up, not the caddy (Read this EA and get a clue)

# 156 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 01:20 PM

Shivas,

Are personal attacks the only thing you can fall back on when someone does not agree with you. Unfreakingbelievable......

# 157 ShivasIrons @ 03/25/11 02:16 PM

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	Shivas, Are personal attacks the only thing you can fall back on when someone does not agree with you. Unfreakingbelievable......

I thought I posted a lot of detailed info to clear up your incorrect statements about True Aim from TW11 being essentially "exactly" the same in TW12. Go back and read my posts. Go load TW11 True Aim and hit some tee shots with draw or fade applied. And, load TW12, zoom out and apply some draw or fade. And then report back. Do the same in each game applying loft to shots.

I just don't understand how you come up with these types of statements making excuses for EA's game design and game play on the hardest difficulty levels in TW.

# 158 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 02:43 PM

I do not care what you posted, there is NO EXCUSE for your misinformed and completely unnecessary personal comments.

# 159 fishepa @ 03/25/11 02:48 PM

Alright guys, let's keep this on topic.

# 160 DivotMaker @ 03/25/11 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShivasIrons


	I thought I posted a lot of detailed info to clear up your incorrect statements about True Aim from TW11 being essentially "exactly" the same in TW12. Go back and read my posts. Go load TW11 True Aim and hit some tee shots with draw or fade applied. And, load TW12, zoom out and apply some draw or fade. And then report back. Do the same in each game applying loft to shots. I just don't understand how you come up with these types of statements making excuses for EA's game design and game play on the hardest difficulty levels in TW.

I agree with you about 11 being different in the regard above and I agree that these adjustments should NOT be in Tournament mode for TW12. Just fired up TW11 in TrueAim and I see what you are saying, so I agree with your statement that 11 and 12 are different in TrueAim in those respects. I am going to ask the TW12 Devs to restore TrueAim to what it was in TW11 for TW12 with a patch.

Lastly, I am defending EA for anything. I am defending my own personal opinion which last time I looked around here, personal opinions ARE welcomed and should NOT be subjected to unnecessary personal comments. We can continue to discuss this in a mature and rational manner if you can do so without the personal comments. If not, so be it.

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