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02:08 PM - March 1, 2011 by tigertown

Team Overall Rankings

1st Red Sox
2nd Yankees
3rd Giants
4th Rangers
5th Phillies
6th Tigers
7th White Sox
8th Cardinals
9th Rockies
10th Braves
11th Dodgers
12th Reds
13th Rays
14th Jays
15th Brewers
16th A�s
17th Twins
18th Orioles
19th Cubs
20th Padres
21th Mets
22th Marlins
23rd Nationals
24th Angels
25th Diamondbacks
26th Pirates
27th Astros
28th Mariners
29th Indians
30th Royals

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# 81 McCannFann @ 03/01/11 07:29 PM

I do not approve of the Braves' placement on this list.

# 82 Jgainsey @ 03/01/11 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by McCannFann


	I do not approve of the Braves' placement on this list.

Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

# 83 AtlantaBraves22 @ 03/01/11 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgainsey


	Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

I agree, if you think about it, Braves are 5th in the National League, 10th overall.

# 84 McCannFann @ 03/01/11 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgainsey


	Really? I think 10th in baseball is about right. Their pitching could maybe put them up a spot or two, but I think you'd be hard pressed trying to argue them much higher.

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBraves22


	I agree, if you think about it, Braves are 5th in the National League, 10th overall.

I'd argue that we're better than the Cards and Rockies. And honestly, I feel like we're better than the Giants.

Yes, yes, I know -- they won the World Series, but can you honestly say they were the best team in the playoffs? They were the hottest/luckiest team, I'd say. We (the Braves) played them tougher than any other team did in the postseason. Had Conrad not made so many critical errors, I honestly think we could have won that series. Whether we'd have beaten the Phillies after that, I don't know.

So anyway, the Braves are, I believe, better than the Rockies and Cardinals, and possibly the Giants.

# 85 brinks @ 03/01/11 08:16 PM

When it comes to the Braves, Freddie Freeman will surely be under-valued. Venters and Craig Kimbrel are probably undervalued as well. I also sense people undervaluing Heyward. He slowed down quite a bit at the end of last season, but still put up a 5.0 WAR and 131 OPS+. And yes, that's better than Buster Posey. In the ratings scale, I think he's a legit "A" player right now.

Still, Chipper Jones is on the decline. Prado is overrated. Uggla is a ghastly defensive second baseman. And Lowe is brutal. So, there are some holes there.

# 86 FourAces2635 @ 03/01/11 08:28 PM

I'm probably going to take the attributes from last year's game anyway and put them in it for my Phillies. That's what I love about this game is the fact that I can edit the rosters as I see fit.

I don't want to get into what I think the team ranking should be because it's just going to end up becoming a "my team is better than yours" thread.

I commented on it in the other thread and I honestly wish I hadn't because these are all opinions anyway...

That said, the Phillies are better than the Giants top to bottom

# 87 berenjena @ 03/01/11 08:33 PM

My opinion.

Team Overall Rankings
1st Red Sox
2nd Phillies
3rd Yankees
4th Rangers
5th Braves
6th Giants
7th Twins
8th White Sox
9th Cardinals
10th Angels
11th Tigers
12th Rays
13th Brewers
14th Reds
15th Dodgers
16th Rockies
17th A�s
18th Jays
19th Orioles
20th Marlins
21th Cubs
22th Padres
23rd Mets
24th Nationals
25th Astros
26th Pirates
27th Diamondbacks
28th Mariners
29th Indians
30th Royals

# 88 McCannFann @ 03/01/11 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brinks


	When it comes to the Braves, Freddie Freeman will surely be under-valued. Venters and Craig Kimbrel are probably undervalued as well. I also sense people undervaluing Heyward. He slowed down quite a bit at the end of last season, but still put up a 5.0 WAR and 131 OPS+. And yes, that's better than Buster Posey. In the ratings scale, I think he's a legit "A" player right now.

I agree with you until you got here.

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	Still, Chipper Jones is on the decline. Prado is overrated. Uggla is a ghastly defensive second baseman. And Lowe is brutal. So, there are some holes there.

Prado is not overrated. I think he's got potential to be a true number three hitter very soon.

Uggla isn't nearly as bad with a glove as he gets a wrap for. He's certainly at least average. He gets knocked on because he looked so bad in that one All-Star game, but if you look at his numbers, he played much better defense away from Sun Life Stadium (or whatever heck it's being called this year).

TalkingChop.com had the splits on this. They were taking it all with a grain of salt, but said a few possible reasons he committed so many errors might have to do with having fairly poor defensive 1st basemen, as well as a pretty shoddy infield at Sun Life. He committed far fewer errors on the road than he did at home, so we'll have to see. If he plays defense half as good as he hits at Turner Field, then we'll be just fine. His numbers at the Ted are ridiculous.

And Lowe was looking pretty inconsistent until September, when he started pitching more like the real Derek Lowe. I think he'll be good this year. And even if he's not, he always manages to attract ridiculous amounts of run support.

# 89 ZakDodge15 @ 03/01/11 08:37 PM

Lester over Oswalt, Pedroia over Utley, Adrian over Howard and Buchholz over Hamels. Red Sox deserve that top spot.

# 90 brinks @ 03/01/11 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by McCannFann


	I agree with you until you got here. Prado is not overrated. I think he's got potential to be a true number three hitter very soon. Uggla isn't nearly as bad with a glove as he gets a wrap for. He's certainly at least average. He gets knocked on because he looked so bad in that one All-Star game, but if you look at his numbers, he played much better defense away from Sun Life Stadium (or whatever heck it's being called this year). TalkingChop.com had the splits on this. They were taking it all with a grain of salt, but said a few possible reasons he committed so many errors might have to do with having fairly poor defensive 1st basemen, as well as a pretty shoddy infield at Sun Life. He committed far fewer errors on the road than he did at home, so we'll have to see. If he plays defense half as good as he hits at Turner Field, then we'll be just fine. His numbers at the Ted are ridiculous. And Lowe was looking pretty inconsistent until September, when he started pitching more like the real Derek Lowe. I think he'll be good this year. And even if he's not, he always manages to attract ridiculous amounts of run support.

I won't argue with you except to say Uggla's UZR stands on its own. Prado is emerging as a sound hitter-- a future number 3 hitter on a real good team he is not. Lowe had two sub 100 ERA+ seasons in a row-- 100 is average. Curious if you have defenses lined up for McLouth and Alex Gonzalez?

Look, the Braves will be good. Solid line-up. Two really good starters in Hudson and Hanson. Maybe Jair Jurrjens if he's healthy will give them a great top 3. My moneys on Mike Minor being a more valuable piece than Lowe as this season goes.

# 91 Sports fanantic @ 03/01/11 09:04 PM

Alright Giants Rank 3rd Overall. Go World Champ San Francisco Giants!!!

# 92 CabreraMVP @ 03/01/11 09:14 PM

If the braves "Holes" are their 30 homerun a season 2nd basemen, their .300 hitting all star who can play everywhere, and Chippper, I like their chances.

Seriously how is Prado overrated and a hole with their team? In the past 4 years he has never posted an OPS lower than .800 and never hit lower than .290

# 93 AtlBraves09 @ 03/01/11 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brinks


	I won't argue with you except to say Uggla's UZR stands on its own. Prado is emerging as a sound hitter-- a future number 3 hitter on a real good team he is not. Lowe had two sub 100 ERA+ seasons in a row-- 100 is average. Curious if you have defenses lined up for McLouth and Alex Gonzalez? Look, the Braves will be good. Solid line-up. Two really good starters in Hudson and Hanson. Maybe Jair Jurrjens if he's healthy will give them a great top 3. My moneys on Mike Minor being a more valuable piece than Lowe as this season goes.

- Lowe has managed to pick up 15 wins since being in Atl... not that brutal to me. I think Heyward is the future #3 hitter of this team and Prado is finally getting credit for how good he is and has been. The guy was never projected to be more than a utility player however, he has put up .300 BA and has been a plus defender. He has also looked good in the outfield so far. I think were the third best team in the NL running neck and neck with Col. Phillies are going to be tough, but we usually give them trouble through the year. Giants are going to be good again, going to be a fun year to watch baseball. I have never really been all that impressed with the Cards. Just Pujols who I think inflates their rating a bit.

# 94 loganmorrison1 @ 03/01/11 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dude106


	Marlins rated lower than the Mets? Are you kidding me? /facepalm

Absolutely ridiculous, but I'm used to it by now, Marlins EVERY YEAR GET SCREWED

# 95 Raskal @ 03/01/11 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FourAces2635


	I don't want to get into what I think the team ranking should be because it's just going to end up becoming a "my team is better than yours" thread. That said, the Phillies are better than the Giants top to bottom

I'm pretty sure the whole point of this thread is to argue about why your team should be ranked higher, and that's what makes it so great to read.

Oh how things might be different if Ryan Howard would actually swing the bat with his team's season on the line.

# 96 jvalverde88 @ 03/01/11 09:53 PM

Here is the deal people, the rankings are not based on what teams did last year. They are based on the calculation of ratings of each player on every position on each team. So the reason the Giants are not rated higher than the Yankees or Red Sox is because the both teams have high rated players on the offensive side than the Giants and this is just a example.

# 97 Sports fanantic @ 03/01/11 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal


	I'm pretty sure the whole point of this thread is to argue about why your team should be ranked higher, and that's what makes it so great to read. Oh how things might be different if Ryan Howard would actually swing the bat with his team's season on the line.

c'mon don't blame Howard for ending the year for the phillies. it was all Brian "Fear the Beard" Wilson for smoking him with that 99 mph fastball!!

# 98 Raskal @ 03/01/11 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jvalverde88


	Here is the deal people, the rankings are not based on what teams did last year. They are based on the calculation of ratings of each player on every position on each team. So the reason the Giants are not rated higher than the Yankees or Red Sox is because the both teams have high rated players on the offensive side than the Giants and this is just a example.

You're right but at the same time you're naive to think that last year's World Series run did not boost the attributes of some of the Giants players therefore making them ranked higher than most people want them.

# 99 jvalverde88 @ 03/01/11 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Raskal


	You're right but at the same time you're naive to think that last year's World Series run did not boost the attributes of some of the Giants players therefore making them ranked higher than most people want them.

I understand what you mean but if they did that the past 3 years (which is how player attributes are distributed) you would have a point.

# 100 mlblover15 @ 03/01/11 10:00 PM

i see that a lot of people have been noting the twins low ranking in the game. doesn't anyone realize that over the course of the last .. what.. 4-5 years no one has expected the twins to be anywhere near the top of the division.

well as we have all seen that follow baseball even remotely closely, is that they have been lying in the weeds just lurking around like vipers ready to strike. they are off of everyone's radar and then BAM! they strike come the end of August and the start of September.

over the course of the last several years when i hear the proponents glaze over the AL Central and say who is going to win it before the season begins i always say to myself "just ignore it, we all know the twins will be right there in the end, making that last month stretch run."

so i think that if they were looking at the over all last month ranking the twins would be in the top 8. seeing how they are always in the hunt or in the playoffs every year lately.

im waiting for one person to sim out a season and have it be what everyone is calling for this October, and that is..The Boston Red Sox Vs. the Philadelphia Phillies.

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