07:15 PM - February 21, 2011 by Shaffer26
Mauer Mondays continue at Gamestop with another MLB 11 The Show video. This one is a gameplay clip between the St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs.
MLB 11 The Show News Post
07:15 PM - February 21, 2011 by Shaffer26Mauer Mondays continue at Gamestop with another MLB 11 The Show video. This one is a gameplay clip between the St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs.
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A little disappointed with how dry the commentary sounds. But I sort of expected that with them changing commentators.
Anyway....The Show is my favorite game, I'm in.
Anyway....The Show is my favorite game, I'm in.
Personally, I find the "if it aint broke dont fix it" argument kind of disheartening.
Yes, MLB 10 the Show was a GREAT game but lets remember some things.
It had its flaws
The only competition is 2k which IS improving
It is only fair to expect more out of the MLB 11 version. These games arent cheap. These days, you have to blow people away to get whatever discretionary income they have out of them.
To 2k's credit, they did that, hands down, with NBA 2k11, from the first time we saw gameplay footage to release day they did that. There is no denying that.
I love the Show series, I preorder it every year. I spent 300 for a PS3 for one game and I know I could make a whole fan club out of people whom have done the same.
That being said, a hard earned $65 is a hard earned $65. I think people were expecting more. I havent seen many that say they think this game wont be good, I think alot of folks were just hoping for a little more when they clicked on the link. I had an adreniline rush and what I got didnt match that.
Its like when you are a kid on Christmas morning and you asked Santa for a Nitendo and your parents play that trick on you where they wrap carnigans and arygle socks in boxes that look like they could be Nintendo boxes and make you open those before they finally pull out the Nintendo (Maybe only my mom did that but it was traumatic)?
Anyway, that's what it was like when I clicked on the link. I was looking for a Nintendo, instead I got a cordory sport coat. You know what I am saying?
Yes, MLB 10 the Show was a GREAT game but lets remember some things.
It had its flaws
The only competition is 2k which IS improving
It is only fair to expect more out of the MLB 11 version. These games arent cheap. These days, you have to blow people away to get whatever discretionary income they have out of them.
To 2k's credit, they did that, hands down, with NBA 2k11, from the first time we saw gameplay footage to release day they did that. There is no denying that.
I love the Show series, I preorder it every year. I spent 300 for a PS3 for one game and I know I could make a whole fan club out of people whom have done the same.
That being said, a hard earned $65 is a hard earned $65. I think people were expecting more. I havent seen many that say they think this game wont be good, I think alot of folks were just hoping for a little more when they clicked on the link. I had an adreniline rush and what I got didnt match that.
Its like when you are a kid on Christmas morning and you asked Santa for a Nitendo and your parents play that trick on you where they wrap carnigans and arygle socks in boxes that look like they could be Nintendo boxes and make you open those before they finally pull out the Nintendo (Maybe only my mom did that but it was traumatic)?
Anyway, that's what it was like when I clicked on the link. I was looking for a Nintendo, instead I got a cordory sport coat. You know what I am saying?
I love what I saw from the game! If you can't see a difference between '10 you are blind. Also, the presentation and cameras used were kind of a head scratcher.
As for the quality of the video/audio as well as the editing, I agree, it was very hit and miss... very weird to say the least.
That said, I still challenge anyone to find a better overall package.
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As for the quality of the video/audio as well as the editing, I agree, it was very hit and miss... very weird to say the least.
That said, I still challenge anyone to find a better overall package.
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i was excited clicking the link after hearing Russie talk about 'it would take hours to tell all the presentation stuff added' and was hoping to see some of that in the clip.
It was heavily edited, and i didnt see anything that made me change my mind from getting a different game this year.
they shouldnt be putting videos out like that, its hurts more than helps.
for people on the fence, that vid won't work.
for people who buy 3 copies of it every year, it doesnt matter what was in the video.
the demo MUST show off these presentation elements.
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I havent read every post in the thread but this is one of the best points of what I have read.
I think it is important to remember that we arent dealing with alot of first timers on this thread. My guess is we are talking about Vets of the series. Not only that, we are talking about people who likely drool over the next interation being released from Mid November to early March. Most of the "on the fence" people talked about here are only trying to decide whether to keep their current version or upgrade. As this point illustrates correctly, this video does almost nothing to help those folks make up their mind to drop another $65 clams.
If you are brand new to the series, honestly, you are going to, and should be blown away by this footage because it is the best baseball series ever created without debate.
I guess you could make a case for "playing it close to the vest" and maybe not wanting to reveal too much but this vid seems like a sloppy effort from a group generally not known for that.
I may be (PUN ALERT) off base here, but I think that is most of the source of dissapointment here.
Honestly, if you let this video discourage you from buying, or at least renting this game then you are doing yourself a disservice.
I know not everyone likes the same stuff, and if you don't like the game thats okay. But this series is one of the most complete well made sports games on the current gen systems.
Most people would say that it represents its sport better than any sports game being made now.
I know not everyone likes the same stuff, and if you don't like the game thats okay. But this series is one of the most complete well made sports games on the current gen systems.
Most people would say that it represents its sport better than any sports game being made now.
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Shakedowncapo @ 02/22/11 03:56 AM
I think opinions will change dramatically when the demo drops.
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Couldn't agree more.
Amazing how this game continues to look better year after year. The lighting is quite spectacular.
However the commentary is getting boring. Karros seems to just say the exact same lines as Hudler. If anything the commentary seems more disjointed than ever. Maybe that's just my reaction to hearing the same old lines all over again. Sony seems to have pulled the common developer stunt of bringing in a new voice in attempt to freshen up the commentary without actually freshening up the commentary.
My worry this year is that MLB the Show may start to feel stale quick. Hopefully there are a few nuggets tucked away in the game to keep it feeling new. 2K may well steal a few fans this year who want a fresh experience.
However the commentary is getting boring. Karros seems to just say the exact same lines as Hudler. If anything the commentary seems more disjointed than ever. Maybe that's just my reaction to hearing the same old lines all over again. Sony seems to have pulled the common developer stunt of bringing in a new voice in attempt to freshen up the commentary without actually freshening up the commentary.
My worry this year is that MLB the Show may start to feel stale quick. Hopefully there are a few nuggets tucked away in the game to keep it feeling new. 2K may well steal a few fans this year who want a fresh experience.
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Points well taken but lets be clear that this video was not leaked. This video was part of the "Mauer Monday's" promo. If we can agree on that, then it is fair to say this isnt some hack or pirate that got an early copy of the game. This video was put together by somebod(ies) and then likely approved by someone else.
The dev cycle point is an interesting one. I get it. They cant or dont want to do this or that. Understandable. The problem is that the game changes, or in some case doesnt, but the release day price never does. That is why you see people making buying decisons off of videos. That, and the expectation that, for the amount of money you are asked to spend, the marketing machines behind these games would want to put their best feet forward.
The argument about dev cycles is flawed to me. Its their endevor not mine. Its not like they dont have anything to gain. The biannual dev cycle is not an option because of the dollars that would be left on the table.
Its my opinion that you do have the right to expect drastic differences from year to year, especially if the price point doesnt move or goes higher.
As far as the vid being discussed here, the differences are not drastic and it sure doesnt put the game's best foot forward. Underwelming is a good description and that is suprising for as big a fan as some of us are and for this group as a whole.
The dev cycle point is an interesting one. I get it. They cant or dont want to do this or that. Understandable. The problem is that the game changes, or in some case doesnt, but the release day price never does. That is why you see people making buying decisons off of videos. That, and the expectation that, for the amount of money you are asked to spend, the marketing machines behind these games would want to put their best feet forward.
The argument about dev cycles is flawed to me. Its their endevor not mine. Its not like they dont have anything to gain. The biannual dev cycle is not an option because of the dollars that would be left on the table.
Its my opinion that you do have the right to expect drastic differences from year to year, especially if the price point doesnt move or goes higher.
As far as the vid being discussed here, the differences are not drastic and it sure doesnt put the game's best foot forward. Underwelming is a good description and that is suprising for as big a fan as some of us are and for this group as a whole.
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Definitely something worth pondering over.
One video is a poor example, but since we can talk about it, let's do it.
What I liked:
Lights, clouds cover, talking about weather, new stats (vs left, vs right,pitchers and batters hitted), overall feeling of better graphics. The analog pitching looks nice and the custom camera will help like shoulder pads for a football player. Stances, the nice linedrive to the left with the lf running to the corner to catch it. We can see baseball in this game.
What I don't like: players don't use the body to throw, just the arm, there's no fluidity in the throw.
The commentary: boring as usual. I will heard the same thing about the young player who has to prove something to his new ballclub and so on. Boring.
The throwing error from the 3rd baseman Ramirez looked planned, the first baseman was already there like he knew, no try to stretch to catch an error. Awful, seems to me like 2k errors at first.
After the final out the catcher runs to Marmol coming from his back and Marmol is stuck..........then the tv scene with Marmol celebrating with the catcher. No fluidity.
Anyway, this is a great game.
EDIT: I hope we could feel the pressure of the last batter in the 9th with the crowd intensity.
What I liked:
Lights, clouds cover, talking about weather, new stats (vs left, vs right,pitchers and batters hitted), overall feeling of better graphics. The analog pitching looks nice and the custom camera will help like shoulder pads for a football player. Stances, the nice linedrive to the left with the lf running to the corner to catch it. We can see baseball in this game.
What I don't like: players don't use the body to throw, just the arm, there's no fluidity in the throw.
The commentary: boring as usual. I will heard the same thing about the young player who has to prove something to his new ballclub and so on. Boring.
The throwing error from the 3rd baseman Ramirez looked planned, the first baseman was already there like he knew, no try to stretch to catch an error. Awful, seems to me like 2k errors at first.
After the final out the catcher runs to Marmol coming from his back and Marmol is stuck..........then the tv scene with Marmol celebrating with the catcher. No fluidity.
Anyway, this is a great game.
EDIT: I hope we could feel the pressure of the last batter in the 9th with the crowd intensity.
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Im just saying that dev cycles are a poor excuse IMO because, as I said, its their endevor. It's what they put on the table for the consumer so the responsibility for making changes that justify another 65 a pop fall to the developers. Think of it this way, Take any overused line in the Show's commentary. Now think about how many different games in which you have heard that exact same line. Now think about how much it cost to have that line delivered, possibly up to 5 years ago. They are making money hand over fist. Its a small example but the game itself hasnt changed that much.
That said, I buy it every year and willingly do so but for those on the fence, or without the means of purchasing multiple games in the big sports gaming month of March, this vid was a poor effort which again, is suprising from SDS.
For the record, according to the Cambridge Dictionary. the prefix "bi" can mean "twice" or "once every two". Technically, however, I did use the wrong word. I should have said "biennial".
My apologies to the English teachers or majors out there.
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That said, I buy it every year and willingly do so but for those on the fence, or without the means of purchasing multiple games in the big sports gaming month of March, this vid was a poor effort which again, is suprising from SDS.
For the record, according to the Cambridge Dictionary. the prefix "bi" can mean "twice" or "once every two". Technically, however, I did use the wrong word. I should have said "biennial".
My apologies to the English teachers or majors out there.
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I am one of the people who agree that there needs to be a different way to treat the value of the game we're buying so that it's somehow mixed up year in and year out. I have plenty of ideas up there in my noggin, but it would take a lot to get them all in the right way.
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Yeah I am a big advocate of that especially in this time we are in right now. It feels like dev times are reduced, workforces are being reduced and the the quality, year to year is being reduced. The only thing not being reduced is the price. None of that anywhere is being passed to the consumer. I mean lets get with the program.
What's that you say, used games are big business? You mean I can get a game for 20-40 off and the only thing I dont get is a warranty that is almost never used anyway? Get out of town!!!!
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Fair enough but if enough people's expectations arent met, you have a serious problem on your hands.
By the way, at this point we are talking about some other game because, as poor as this video was, that WILL NOT happen to The Show. This game has a cult following like few on these boards.
Its so funny, you look at the info being released on here for FNC, TW12 and Nascar, all good games in their own right and the three of those threads combined dont have anywhere near the comments that this thread does.
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