07:23 PM - September 27, 2010 by RaychelSnr
Peter Moore just confirmed NBA Elite 11's delay on his blog:
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NBA Elite 11 News Post
07:23 PM - September 27, 2010 by RaychelSnrPeter Moore just confirmed NBA Elite 11's delay on his blog:
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Honestly, I am stunned. I applaud EA for having the guts to eat a lot of $$$ and do what is ultimately the right thing.
That being said, the fans have to keep EA's feet to the fire. If EA decides to try to rush out a version to be launched at the NBA All-Star Weekend, then that is a sign that EA isn't serious and is just waiting out the negatives.
If EA decides they want to really refocus and not release until October 2012, then I will be convinced that EA is really serious about their NBA franchises.
So, a good thing for the fans to have their voices heard. But until we see the product released, we won't know to what degree we've been heard.
Stay on EA SimNation!!!
That being said, the fans have to keep EA's feet to the fire. If EA decides to try to rush out a version to be launched at the NBA All-Star Weekend, then that is a sign that EA isn't serious and is just waiting out the negatives.
If EA decides they want to really refocus and not release until October 2012, then I will be convinced that EA is really serious about their NBA franchises.
So, a good thing for the fans to have their voices heard. But until we see the product released, we won't know to what degree we've been heard.
Stay on EA SimNation!!!
While Peter Moore is ultimately in charge of the whole global EA Sports operation, it's the management team at the individual studios that dictate the day to day happenings on each project.
In the case of the NBA franchise, the GM of the EA Vancouver studio is someone named Pauline Moller. The buck stops with her. The individual devs like reAnimator don't deserve much of the blame (a tiny bit maybe, but not really). They are soldiers who march in the direction they are told to march. The devs are your true allies. They care. They may not have any power to change decisions, but they do give a crap about the game. They make normal amounts of money and do it mostly because they like making games.
If you want the company to hear you, send her an email.
In the case of the NBA franchise, the GM of the EA Vancouver studio is someone named Pauline Moller. The buck stops with her. The individual devs like reAnimator don't deserve much of the blame (a tiny bit maybe, but not really). They are soldiers who march in the direction they are told to march. The devs are your true allies. They care. They may not have any power to change decisions, but they do give a crap about the game. They make normal amounts of money and do it mostly because they like making games.
If you want the company to hear you, send her an email.
Stop applauding EA, its a good move, but its not worth an applause. Let's see what Live 12 brings to the table. If it messes up, or doesn't live up to the hype of a 2yr production cycle, consider the nba elite/live basketball game canceled.
That's my take.
That's my take.
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rEAnimator @ 09/28/10 09:16 PM
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And sooner than last year.
Stay tuned...
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koolaid251 @ 09/28/10 09:18 PM
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NBA elite 12 is released in october of 2011
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bigeastbumrush @ 09/28/10 11:12 PM
Just joining the party here...
Glad to see that P.O.S. is being pulled from store shelves.
Hopefully, the added time and resources with an extended deadline can really translate into a proper overhaul of what you guys put out there.
Take a real good listen to the gaming community and you'll have a great product to put on display.
But you guys need to make major steps. You got the time; take full advantage of it.
Because next time around, there are NO excuses. None.
No ratings, no player models, no hitches, no nothing.
I wish you guys (devs) the best of luck!
Glad to see that P.O.S. is being pulled from store shelves.
Hopefully, the added time and resources with an extended deadline can really translate into a proper overhaul of what you guys put out there.
Take a real good listen to the gaming community and you'll have a great product to put on display.
But you guys need to make major steps. You got the time; take full advantage of it.
Because next time around, there are NO excuses. None.
No ratings, no player models, no hitches, no nothing.
I wish you guys (devs) the best of luck!
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The game needs to take a more sim approach. Even casual players want a realistic representation of the sport. Otherwise, they'd be playing NBA Jam.
Skill-based shooting needs to be finely tuned so it can't be exploited and falls in line with real life shooting %'s.
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droopizzle34 @ 09/29/10 12:40 AM
NOW IF THEY CAN DELAY MADDEN FOR A YEAR AND GIVE US A COMPLETE GAME I'D SETTLE FOR A ROSTER UPDATE IN 12!!!! HA!
To me ea has only had a few good titles I can think of like army of two, bad company just to name a few. Whenever they get there hands on something they turn it into crap! Look at what they did to the 007 series... When rare did goldeneye that was sick and then ea gets their gimmey hands in the mix & turned 007 into trash so to hear that moore & company are postponing elite isnt shocking to me one bit... And hasn't ea canada been responsible for developing ea's basketball for years now? But yet they still have their hands on making basketball games??? I won a cooy of live 7 and traded it in @ gamestop the following day b/c that was the worst bball game I ever remember pkaying. I'll keep it 100 with you by saying that I cant wait for 2k11 b/c live never made a basketball sim...and the demo made my point, they can try & cover it up by saying that the demo was an early build & didn't represent the final product if they want.. Im not buying it... 2k can say there demo isn't the final installment to but it was far better than the trash ea dished out. & gamers please stop saying it was a good move for them to postpone b/c in reality it wasn't. It should have been stopped months ago and not 7 days before release there's no way they didn't know this title was no where near complete... I'm not a huge fan if ea especially when out comes to basketball titles but it's unfair to ea faithfulls who prefer live than 2k b/c now their in a delimma where they either wait it out & hope elite releases sometime in 2011 or pick up 2k11or nothing at all.. And ea really needs to stop charging for downloadable rosters.... Thats greed and very pathetic on their behalf!
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TheFreshAnswer18 @ 09/29/10 04:44 AM
great decision i look for them to work on the graphics during that time and the way the players move during the game, maybe working on offball movement and making layups easier to do
I really think what should happen is that they should release another 'beta' quite a while from release date and get user feedback just like they did with the demo so that Elite 11/12 will really be something that the gaming community appreciates and something that may even rival the other game.
i don't think they should have delayed it, they should have cut the price in half and released it and worked on a patch to see what they could come up with. either that or release it a month or 2 later. this game was deff. NOT horrible but it just needed a lil more work, a patch might have been able to fix some of the stuff, oh well...id still buy a copy for like 30 bucks if i can find one, im just saying lol
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eyes of hazel @ 09/29/10 10:52 AM
I didn't think this was a WWF/WCW "Monday Night Wars" type of thing, but maybe I'm wrong now.
Maybe I'm being too critical, but...
I see this like a boxing match... We got a date to settle the score on October 5, 2010... We both had the same time to train/prepare... Exactly a week before the fight, you back out for a later "unannounced" date? [Canibus] "That's a b**** move..."
Maybe I'm being too critical, but...
I see this like a boxing match... We got a date to settle the score on October 5, 2010... We both had the same time to train/prepare... Exactly a week before the fight, you back out for a later "unannounced" date? [Canibus] "That's a b**** move..."
The crappy thing is that I liked having 2 games to chose from (even if one game wasn't up to par with the competition). It was nice to have a second NBA title for a "change of pace". It can get boring playing the same game (no matter how good it is) for an entire NBA season. Both games are different and it was nice to have that "different" experience when I felt like it.
I love basketball & I love basketball games. Seeing a game getting "delayed" (most likely cancelled until next season) is not good & yes I know EA taking a year off too improve the game can only make the game better.....but..........
In 2005 we had 3 pro games & 2 college games. That's 5 choices.......5 different experiences. Now in 2010/2011 season we have 1.
I love basketball & I love basketball games. Seeing a game getting "delayed" (most likely cancelled until next season) is not good & yes I know EA taking a year off too improve the game can only make the game better.....but..........
In 2005 we had 3 pro games & 2 college games. That's 5 choices.......5 different experiences. Now in 2010/2011 season we have 1.
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DaImmaculateONe @ 09/29/10 11:54 AM
the quality of ea basketball has gone way wayyy down need to rebuild from the ground up
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Personally, I don't agree with anyone applauding EA for delaying the game. Remember that the game was already sent to stores, and is essentially being recalled. They have to physically destroy every copy out there and once the game is "done" a second time, they have to reprint all those copies. I, for one, forsee this just becoming a skipped year for EA Basketball. Also, I agree with those who think that they were getting some early returns on reviews, and the game was getting slaughtered (much the same way some here slaughtered the demo) to the point where it was worth the loss of potential revenue to keep a disaster of a game from hitting shelves. It's too bad, because it seems like the people who interact with us here are genuinely devoted to making the best game possible, but they perhaps just ran out of time.
Hopefully NBA Jam floats the dev costs of Elite 12, and we can get a legitimate EA NBA game sometime in 2011.
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