NBA Elite 11 News Post

CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

07:23 PM - September 27, 2010 by RaychelSnr

Peter Moore just confirmed NBA Elite 11's delay on his blog:

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	Over the past three years, EA SPORTS development teams have had a laser focus on creating titles packed with innovation and unsurpassed quality. The acclaim from fans and critics on most of our titles the past few years makes us proud and it also motivates us to keep getting better. This year, we set extremely ambitious goals for our new franchise, NBA ELITE. We are creating a game that will introduce several breakthrough features that have been missing from the basketball genre. Unfortunately, NBA ELITE 11 is not yet ready and we have made a decision to delay next month�s launch. We are going to keep working until we�re certain we can deliver a breakthrough basketball experience.

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# 361 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 01:27 AM

nba jam should of been released for ps3 & xbox 360 from day one.. ea in 2010 been a year of fumbles for them i see and im disappointed as a EA 15 years strong supporter. I bought every basketball release since day one and after this i believe i dont have any more faith in them.. that demo was horrible in every way and the controls where the WORST. seriously why change the controls makes 0 sense to me really do..

# 362 phreshprince @ 09/28/10 01:29 AM

Good.,, So now they can get their sh*t together, because they were about to release the worst basketball game in the Live/EA series.

# 363 rEAnimator @ 09/28/10 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	I agree with this. Problem is I as a consumer feel like they just tried to sell me a product that wasnt the "final goal". I have been saying I loved the demo as a base game ,but it wasnt anywhere near close to being gold. And if the negative outlook hadnt been ridiculously obvious they would have gone gold with it anyways. I dont think you have this kind of delay unless the issues are undeniable and not once even after the bad impression of the demo did any of the devs. even hint at a delay. Where is the trust? Which is a shame because like I said earlier in this thread rEAnimator has been one of the most candid devs. I have seen on OS.

I didn't know about this until this morning.

# 364 stepsix @ 09/28/10 01:42 AM

This is all I've got to say right now: Obviously you guys have a strong voice as a community. I've been applying to be able to post on these boards since late Live 09, and was finally able to some time earlier this year. I've met Da Czar, Pared, HoosierDaddy, Sovartus and a number of others, and discussed with many more of you online. It's intimidating and humbling at the same time having access to the opinions of so many experts, but the only reason I wanted to post here was to solicit the feedback from those that are most passionate about these games.

I'm not here to discuss decisions made that I can't control, but I will say that whether it was via patch, or the new delayed product, I'm looking to you guys as the community with the megaphone to continue to be vocal about what you want.

End cheese. As rEAnimator said it's been a long day, but just know that if I'm not as vocal, I'm reading every post and taking notes.

# 365 HOLLIDAY1183 @ 09/28/10 01:53 AM

Wow, lot of emotions in this thread, and now that I think about it, that's to be expected. This is big news, for us the hardcore NBA fans, EA (the devs esp), and for this franchise.

You might feel this is a purely by-the-numbers decision, aimed at reducing losses incurred had "Elite" released in its current condition....

You may feel EA deserves praises, for "looking out for the consumer" and "taking community feedback seriously"....

You may feel like your intelligence has been insulted, certain that had the response to the demo been slightly less negative, this would have released, and devs would still be here two weeks from now praising "Elite" for its "revolutionary" control, w/commercials playing claiming it has "unprecedented features for a basketball game"...in other words, EA woulda kept their game face on pretending this was complete when WE ALL KNOW IT WASN'T....

For me, it's all of the above.

But as a hardcore NBA/Basketball gamer, I saw this headline, and almost smiled literally. Sometimes, though business is business, and profits trump all, in the end, we win. We won with this whole development today. EA made a business decision, and the result is in everybody's best interest, and that's why I'm happy. Who cares about anything, really, except the fact that we are going to get a BETTER game out of this.

Every day at work (VZW), I make purely business decisions. A single-line customer on her eighth Storm, is getting another Storm replacement. A customer with 25 business lines, on their 3rd, heck I will probably tell the rep to upgrade her to her choice of device, WITH a discount.

Why? Because it's worth it. They'd lose $$ by not releasing "Elite" but a TON less by cutting it short right now, and getting to work on "Elite/Live" 12.

Which brings me to my next thought: I doubt we'll see an "Elite 11" at all. I think releasing "Elite" 11 is another business decision that won't make sense, whether it's January or April. I think conference calls are happening now that are debating not just whether or not to cancel 11, but more-so "How do we break this to them in the most positive light possible? How will we spin it to still look good?"

What I'm hoping (and why I put the "Live" in the last paragraph, lol) is that they reopen the code for Live 10, and try to find a way to marry it with parts of the new system they tried with "Elite" (if this is even possible). I don't even know, maybe like have real physics trigger in a congested lane or something. But just keep ALL OF LIVE 10 intact, and build off it. More sig, more personality, revamped Dynasty, fully fleshed out online options. Maybe full dynamic half- and post-game shows showcasing dynamic footage from around the league (they were on to something with the saved replays playing on the bigscreeen. "Rebrand" it Live again, and announce they're going back to the "Soul of the game."

Fire Littman and NEVER let him near the studio again. Honestly guys, doesn't it kinda tick you off that the actual devs (rEAnimator, stepsix) are here all day, defending a game that is the result of HIS vision, and where has he been. His vision has been met with 99% negative feedback, and these guys are here on the frontline defending it.

Why isn't Littman here explaining to us why it isn't important to have in-game injuries, and true to life signature animations? Ugh

# 366 DickDalewood @ 09/28/10 01:58 AM

Well, at least if someone wants to buy a "new" NBA game this year with current rosters and DNA updates, they can pick up NBA Live 10 for $29.99 brand new.

# 367 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 01:58 AM

I remember it was a point in time where i wouldnt play 2k nba games cause EA didnt make it. Im glad i just playing 2k in 2008 best move i made on video game tip in while. Trust me EA will lose alot consumer faith especially when kevin durant on the cover. I see nba elite sneakers and all. Why EA fumbling on basketball titles but on football they make sure they come correct on that.. EA switch the controls on fight night round 4 i didnt appreciate that either.. Then switch controls up on Elite 11 was a bad move. Alot hype was around this game because Kevin Durant is hottest player in nba right now. Why I read EA take shots at 2k11 for having jordan on the cover like it was gimmick when they didnt have their own game in order.

# 368 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 02:04 AM

Nba live 10 was on point and so many people agree to that. Nba Elite 11 name change was a bad move period point blank. Nba Live 10 had me excited about the Live Series again. We need Nba live 10 but better and things be good wood.

# 369 Db-Ransom @ 09/28/10 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HOLLIDAY1183


	Wow, lot of emotions in this thread, and now that I think about it, that's to be expected. This is big news, for us the hardcore NBA fans, EA (the devs esp), and for this franchise. You might feel this is a purely by-the-numbers decision, aimed at reducing losses incurred had "Elite" released in its current condition.... You may feel EA deserves praises, for "looking out for the consumer" and "taking community feedback seriously".... You may feel like your intelligence has been insulted, certain that had the response to the demo been slightly less negative, this would have released, and devs would still be here two weeks from now praising "Elite" for its "revolutionary" control, w/commercials playing claiming it has "unprecedented features for a basketball game"...in other words, EA woulda kept their game face on pretending this was complete when WE ALL KNOW IT WASN'T.... For me, it's all of the above. But as a hardcore NBA/Basketball gamer, I saw this headline, and almost smiled literally. Sometimes, though business is business, and profits trump all, in the end, we win. We won with this whole development today. EA made a business decision, and the result is in everybody's best interest, and that's why I'm happy. Who cares about anything, really, except the fact that we are going to get a BETTER game out of this. Every day at work (VZW), I make purely business decisions. A single-line customer on her eighth Storm, is getting another Storm replacement. A customer with 25 business lines, on their 3rd, heck I will probably tell the rep to upgrade her to her choice of device, WITH a discount. Why? Because it's worth it. They'd lose $$ by not releasing "Elite" but a TON less by cutting it short right now, and getting to work on "Elite/Live" 12. Which brings me to my next thought: I doubt we'll see an "Elite 11" at all. I think releasing "Elite" 11 is another business decision that won't make sense, whether it's January or April. I think conference calls are happening now that are debating not just whether or not to cancel 11, but more-so "How do we break this to them in the most positive light possible? How will we spin it to still look good?" What I'm hoping (and why I put the "Live" in the last paragraph, lol) is that they reopen the code for Live 10, and try to find a way to marry it with parts of the new system they tried with "Elite" (if this is even possible). I don't even know, maybe like have real physics trigger in a congested lane or something. But just keep ALL OF LIVE 10 intact, and build off it. More sig, more personality, revamped Dynasty, fully fleshed out online options. Maybe full dynamic half- and post-game shows showcasing dynamic footage from around the league (they were on to something with the saved replays playing on the bigscreeen. "Rebrand" it Live again, and announce they're going back to the "Soul of the game." Fire Littman and NEVER let him near the studio again. Honestly guys, doesn't it kinda tick you off that the actual devs (rEAnimator, stepsix) are here all day, defending a game that is the result of HIS vision, and where has he been. His vision has been met with 99% negative feedback, and these guys are here on the frontline defending it. Why isn't Littman here explaining to us why it isn't important to have in-game injuries, and true to life signature animations? Ugh

exactly my point man.... i respect rEAnimator and stepsix alot and feel bad for them because there here defending the game, when it wasnt there vision (theyll never admit to it not being there vision), if there was a way to fuse elites shooting, rtp, presentation, into live 10, with improved grpahics, and more sig stuf, and animations, wed have one HELL of a game... hell since 2k took a page out of eas book this year, take a couple out of theirs, put old retro teams in the game.... ive owned every live since 2000, this is a disappointing day for a ea fanboy like myself.... ima jordan nuthugger(almost got into fist fights because people call kobes name and jordans into the same sentence lol), and i REFUSE to buy 2k, i absolutely HATE the way it moves and feels.... c'mon ea yall dominate every other sport game, time to do the right thing and take over basketball too

# 370 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 02:07 AM

you absolutely right jordan buzz is crazy. I wear jordan sneakers 80 percent of the time and thats why NBA Elite should of put Dwayne Wade Or Lebron James on cover if they wasnt gonna do Kobe Bryant.. Kevin Durant is good and all but this is competition. Who decision was it to but Kevin Durant to compete with the goat on a cover that right there was suicide..

# 371 Db-Ransom @ 09/28/10 02:09 AM

Also keep elites shooting, thats pretty revolutionary... but i think a way yall can improve on it is if u shoot a PERFECT shot, it goes in 100% of the time (green), if u shoot a bad shot (red) you miss 100% of the time, but heres the addition you guys can add a GREY zone and if u shoot in there, its a dice roll based on player ratings for the specific shots.... that sounds like the greatest way to still be innovative, and keep the sim boys happy... i cannot possibly see how anyone cannot be happy with that... man i wish i would help ea out man... ea fanboy to the death

# 372 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 02:10 AM

EA own basketball before ps3 & xbox 360 came out. Once those systems came out EA just didnt have that crown no more when it came to basketball games.. Why ncaa basketball 11? That decision there and name change of nba live had me scared about Ea when it came to basketball.

# 373 fatleg3 @ 09/28/10 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jano


	Good move by EA their reasons for it may not be completely motivated by the community but I know we played a large role. It seems like they are most likely going to release the game early 2011. And that's fine to me because what this game needed was more polish. I don't see too many changes happening from now to whenever they happen to release it but I do see the game being a more polished product. Its still not going to please everybody but the extra time should please those fans that still wanted to play it. And maybe get a few more to hop on board if it plays better then the demo. Now all they need to is do something about that 60$ price tag....

I agree dont expect a totally new game but i believe it will be more polished when it does come out no matter what the reason for the delay. And now way i will pay 60 for whatever it is if it come out before july of next yr

# 374 parkinson @ 09/28/10 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HOLLIDAY1183


	Why isn't Littman here explaining to us why it isn't important to have in-game injuries, and true to life signature animations? Ugh

Who said those aren't important? Devs mentioned they didn't have enough time to cover them long time ago.

# 375 rEAnimator @ 09/28/10 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	Like I said earlier either they are lying(covering up for a bad product) or they have no idea what a good basketball game is supposed to be. There is no middle ground.

Ouch! You don't think that's a little harsh?

# 376 RedmanR @ 09/28/10 02:12 AM

Good thing EA didn't go through with plans to ship Elite. I don't care what anyone says... you don't have to play the demo or waste your time... giving it a chance as I've read a million times already. I've been spending hundreds of dollars since basketball and video got married so you tend to know... if it walks like a duck... it's a duck and it was clear Elite was no spring chicken.

What got be scratching my head was the first couple of videos, I imdeiately noticed the weird player movement, shot mechanics, animations, player models, signature style etc. Not to mention the fact that everyone was told... "the demo is pretty much what we had to look forward too upon release". My eyes know if improvements have been made. Besides... you have to see it to execute it!

Elite just didn't seem to be where it should be for the year 2010 and not to mention what this was going to cost us... the consumers.

You've got to sell me more than just "controls" in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by pdawg17


	Aren't the physical discs made already since it is a week before the release date?

That's a very good question. To bad we might not get an honest answer out of anyone but I'm sure... someone had to know Elite 11 was not happening.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	When did they stop working on Elite 11 and when have they started working again? I imagine they have been working through on a patch.

Yes there was a few discussions floating around about patch work but who's to say it was just to keep us going.

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Originally Posted by nccomicfan


	I can't remember this ever happening to any sports game so close to release..curious to know how long REAnimator has known?Before or after demo?

I'm sure this question will be asked by many. I'd like to know myself

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Originally Posted by joel0078


	This is a good idea. But I don't know how much "better" then can make the game at this point. So far it's a disaster. And for all the guys who were saying it wasn't, I think this pretty much proves it was not a game that was ready to satisfy the customer or compete with I'm not sure this will be enough to prevent the series from being canceled. Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if they just cut their loses and scrap the series altogether.

Elite needs to be improved in so many ways, almost as if they were starting from scratch so instead... I bet they try weaving together... scripts and codes from Live 10 and Elite, sprinkles of older Live games with a hint of

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Originally Posted by DaveDQ


	I have to disagree that this is a good decision. A week before release and they pull the carpet out from everything. That's very odd to me. At what point did they decide this? Is it because of the bad vibe the demo got? Surely the developers didn't step in and say, this shouldn't be on store shelves after the game went gold etc. The game may be delayed but this speaks volumes about the current state of EA NBA basketball. When in 2011 is the right time to ship this? I just don't know about this and honestly think we may not see an NBA Elite. Very odd. All the money poured into ads, print, shipping etc. and they pull the plug. There must be something wrong with this game beyond what we have seen.

Dude I agree with everything your saying

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Originally Posted by RubenDouglas


	Interesting move. You wait longer and expectations rise even more. 3 months isnt enough for much. They may as well be cancel it until elite 12. Even then, people will say, they had an "extra" year and the game is still just okay. It's nothing but catch up for the next 4 years at this pace The hole is being dug deeper and deeper each time. I feel they shouldve released it as is. Since this is basically on par with earlier live games.

No man... this thing shouldn't have made it this far. A lot of people probably wouldn't have been banned for drawing what they felt was... "constructive criticism" over such a very bad demo which was said to be close to retail. They waited for the demo and passed judgement.

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Originally Posted by Tha.Pink.Pantha


	On one hand, I commend them for not stealing $60 from people for a game that's not ready. On the other hand, they deserve all this negative attention because you had devs on here making it seem as if it was our fault the game wasn't enjoyable for us. That's horrible communication that blew up in their faces.

I agree and a lot of other old skool... community gamers such as myself should know whether or not a game is a bust or not without giving some new... controls a chance. I do know this... ever since that demo got released it's been like another nail in the coffin. And... who's to truly say whether Elite will be delayed until 2011. EA could be considering shutting down the shop since 4-6 months is not enough time to generate major improvements Elite will need to compete. Not to mention justifying a name change. There's just entirely too much ground to cover right now imho.

# 377 treasy21 @ 09/28/10 02:13 AM

Just curious

as far as the graphics go, was there a limitation with how well you could render the models because of the design of the game (rtp, etc) or was it just a new art direction?

# 378 Db-Ransom @ 09/28/10 02:14 AM

Thats the next thing to Nba Elite has the potential to be an amazing game if they had enough time, dont just go back to live for the hell of it, however i think they should be fused in some sort of way

# 379 rEAnimator @ 09/28/10 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fcabanski


	I disagree with the last post. Take the Elite 11 we saw and improve on it. The controls are a solid foundation.

That's the current plan, but the timeline has not been decided yet.

Will let you know when things get clearer.

# 380 welcome2jungle @ 09/28/10 02:15 AM

but one thing what would of happen if the demo didnt come out till like couple days before release date.. or the week of release date and people would of cop this product.. This is pretty bad they had Nba Elite 11 party i believe last week and now 2day i read no game.. Why they playing with people like this?? All those people who like me been waiting for this game aka waiting for showdown on OCT 5.

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