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NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: Association

02:15 PM - September 22, 2010 by lv2bll

Check out the latest NBA 2K11 Developer Insight, discussing the Association.

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	"Over the past few years, we have implemented some very successful features in NBA.com, Player Roles, Player Ambitions, Player Morale, Player Personalities, and so on. I feel like these additions have defined the 2K Association experience. Moving forward, I would like The Association to be defined by something completely different, and that�s the smartest AI of any franchise mode across all sports titles. To achieve this goal, the main focus for us this year has been to completely re-write the underlying logic that drives the mode, along with adding new systems that will help the AI to make the smartest decisions possible at all times. Every time the CPU makes a move, they are making it for a very precise reason. It may not be completely evident to you at first as they often think two, three, even four steps ahead, but they are always thinking, always assessing. They have brains this year folks; here is how we did it�"

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# 161 Epiffani @ 09/22/10 05:53 PM

As I expected, another knockout of an insight.

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	As you guys can see, we’ve put a lot of work into The Association this year. So many developers out there tend to ignore their franchise modes for years on end. At 2K, we realize this is where you spend the majority of your time, so we are constantly working to improve the experience year-over-year. With the changes we have made this year, I can honestly say this is the best ‘franchise’ mode the company has ever put out, and it’s not even close.

This entire quote right here confirms exactly what I've always thought about 2K, especially when it comes to this franchise. Quote is simply BOSS.

# 162 convince @ 09/22/10 05:54 PM

The only thing the Association is missing now, is a Preseason/Playoff and a Mothly wrap up show. This should the #1 priority for the Association next year.

# 163 JWiLL02 @ 09/22/10 05:58 PM

Advanced metric stats? Sold.

I may actually start an association this year to play occasionally when I'm not online, this sounds too go to pass up.

Plus, playing vs. the AI this year is actually enjoyable. That always helps.

# 164 randbfun @ 09/22/10 06:07 PM

Can someone please tell me if you put legends in the mode will they retire the next year?

# 165 jeremym480 @ 09/22/10 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rspencer86


	Outstanding stuff there! Generated player photos, improved sim results, much improved NBA Draft presentation, beefed up AI trade logic... now that's what I'm talking about! Let's hope all of these things work as intended. We've heard "improved trade logic" before and ended up dealing with AI teams trading away a player and then bringing him back with another trade a few days later.

That's one of the main thing I'm interested in as well. That and players getting traded over and over again. I would prefer to only run a 1-team Association this year. My hopes are up so don't let me down 2k.

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Originally Posted by lv2bll


	this is gonna be the nfl 2k5 of basketball, lets do a recap basically fixed every gripe with 2k10 revamped(fixed) controls added a freakin micheal jordan mode all-new myplayer mode fixed all the problems in association while adding alot new playcalling system better presentation across the board extremely intelligent AI *listened to the community(to me the most important) all thats left to make it a full sweep is the online(i dont play as much). Which they said they were working on and testing stability a few weeks ago

That's a lot of awesome upgrades. I'm super excited for this years game. However, I haven't been following all the info lately and I have two quick questions?

1) Will there be in-game saves this year?
and
2) Any word on a Super-Sim feature?

# 166 ProfessaPackMan @ 09/22/10 06:15 PM

They sold me on the Dynamic Attendance FINALLY being implemented and the Draft Day Deals that can be made. Can't wait for this and I hope these next 10 days go by real quick for me lol.

# 167 Naismithball @ 09/22/10 06:15 PM

I'm really glad they gave generated players real pictures again! Those grey head outlines were so annoying to me that I wouldn't even use draft picks in my association.

# 168 JasonC1363 @ 09/22/10 06:15 PM

I mean actually yea for me personally it is kind of a deal breaker. I find minimal entertainment in playing against the CPU so offline association rarely gets any playtime from me. ive run it a couple of times with my bros as other users in the association but thats very limited since we only end up with about 4 user teams. The new features and stuff are great but at the end of the day most of these features are geared towards improving CPU Logic and making the CPU be as realistic as possible. No matter how many features and logic you add at the end of the day you will never completely replicate the thrill and entertainment that comes with actually competing and running a team against other actual users. Theres just an immense sense of satisfaction in pulling off a trade with another user and negotiating that will never really feel like wash rinse and repeat. the Competition, the fact that users can get better, the satisfaction cant really be replicated with a CPU.

I only brought up madden because its practically a huge example of how even a bare bones franchise mode online can be that much more exciting to run because of user interaction. NCAA takes it a step further, have you tried their online dynasty mode? it has recruiting, etc, the whole nine yards.

I know that 2k is capable of implementing something of the sort, resources are not an issue because they can use the same type of system. you simply host the association on a server and let people run it online and it all becomes simple data input. make a trade, sign a player, etc. and the information goes to the server.

Hopefully they actually do have something like this in the works and will be announced in the Online Insight. It was disappointing enough that Madden didnt implement a more fleshed out version like the one in NCAA but for a sports game to not have it at all is just a huge omission in an industry that is mostly dominated by online gaming.

Once again not trying to hate, but its close to a deal breaker for me and disappointing for many people. Some will not care and thats fine. just wanted to voice my concern so that its taken into account next year.

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Originally Posted by lv2bll


	You make it seam like thats a deal breaker, "severely disappointed" seems like you were expecting it over all the other stuff added. As difficult it is for ea to have online Franchise/dynasty modes you have to look at the bare bones experience you get,(as well as only 14,19 games in each season). All those games have is play, trade, recruit/draft, sign, rinse and repeat. A complex franchise mode like 2k it would be extremely difficult and resource consuming to put that in, especially considering everything they've done this year. "Seriously disappointed" lol. I'll be waiting for someone to say that the sock glitch is a dealbreaker now!

# 169 chrissmoove13 @ 09/22/10 06:16 PM

Nba 2k11 is going to be the best, but wonder during playoff time will the home fans be dress in the team colors for example miami heat fans wore all white during the playoffs in 2006. And I hope they can add the champainge celebration this year.

# 170 SBartlett @ 09/22/10 06:20 PM

This is so in depth - i really like the vision 2k has on their association mode.

# 171 Ricky Rowe Zay @ 09/22/10 06:20 PM

I just came.

# 172 lv2bll @ 09/22/10 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Rowe Zay


	I just came.

no you didn't!

keep it pg

# 173 NDAlum @ 09/22/10 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Onpoint17


	Ok, I still so blown away that I have to post again. Where did they find the time to do all this? How is all this even possible? Somebody pinch me. Thank you 2K!

Gotta say this is how I feel too.

I hope all the 2K guys feel pretty good about themselves when they read OS, and better yet, I hope the sales reflect the quality of the product they are giving to the consumer. The consumer they listen to and aim to please with going above and beyond.

I wish this was the norm across companies

# 174 infam0us @ 09/22/10 06:30 PM

Thats a picture of NBA 2K10 Peter.

# 175 richmo @ 09/22/10 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by intruda119


	What draft picture? The only one I see is from nba 2k10.

Yeah, Peter, the caption says 2k10, don't worry about it.

# 176 laroche360 @ 09/22/10 06:36 PM

the only thing i wanted is the ability to play with the classic teams on Association, my wish got granted,so i am happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

# 177 nccomicfan @ 09/22/10 06:41 PM

No two ways about it...2k saw blood in the water, and they went in for the kill!

# 178 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 09/22/10 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Rowe Zay


	I just came.

I was gonna say that but I thought it might be inappropriate lol

# 179 Sinner @ 09/22/10 06:48 PM

Wow great read and thanks 2k for all your trying to do to make a great game and make your fans happy. This is either going to be the best sports game around or *and I hope not* a great game with the most irritating bugs and glitches around till a patch comes out. Really hope it has gone through serious quality control to make any problems minimal. But either way its no doubt 2k has put in SERIOUS work and is trying to make not only the best Basketball game but best Sports Game ever.

# 180 2KAddict4ever @ 09/22/10 06:49 PM

AMAZING! All that in 1 year! All hail 2K lol

but I'm still waiting to see if theres gonna b any insights about the PLAYOFFS in Association
whats it gonna b like? wat kind of changes & improvements has been made in 2k11??
so if i missed it someone plz fill me in, anythin at all

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