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01:35 PM - September 17, 2010 by Beluba

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# 61 bonbonan @ 09/18/10 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	the "flick - flick" do i need to keep the LT pressed all the way through the sequence? im still having trouble pulling it off...i end up doing multiple pump fakes...

my understanding it's need.

# 62 Earl1963 @ 09/18/10 10:18 AM

Controls shouldn't ever be this complicated, ever. 2k is way to mechanical and unnatural to be fun. I mean that huge list is way too much to take in. Controlling your player feels more like controlling a giant robot.

2k needs to find a more natural user friendly control scheme. That huge list, and there is still no way of dribbling from your left hand to your right in a stationary position. Just not realistic to me at all.

# 63 bonannogiovanni @ 09/18/10 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	the "flick - flick" do i need to keep the LT pressed all the way through the sequence? im still having trouble pulling it off...i end up doing multiple pump fakes...

I have the same question about the up and under: do you have to hold LT all the way through the sequence?

# 64 Pared @ 09/18/10 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	Controls shouldn't ever be this complicated, ever. 2k is way to mechanical and unnatural to be fun. I mean that huge list is way too much to take in. Controlling your player feels more like controlling a giant robot. 2k needs to find a more natural user friendly control scheme. That huge list, and there is still no way of dribbling from your left hand to your right in a stationary position. Just not realistic to me at all.

While this is true, the rest of your post is terrible.

Games are no longer simplistic. If you think your comment holds water, you should take a look at NHL and FIFA, two highly rated, best-selling games that have just as complicated control schemes.

If I wanted simplistic I'd get a Wii. A company offering a deep, expansive system for those that want to lose themselves in the game are catering to the individual that wants the most from their $60.

If you want to play sports games that simulate the real thing, then time to hop on-board the advanced controller configuration train. Otherwise, you're best left with games like NBA Jam as the sole representative in your collection.

# 65 GLZ43 @ 09/18/10 11:03 AM

Can't say I completely disagree. Still, I try to keep in mind that despite how long the list is, it's only 1 or 2 buttons that are being manipulated. I'll take that over 2 to 3. Also, for me, the learning curve is increased due to some discomfort w/the camera angle. With the full release, I feel it will be an easy-to-learn-difficult-to-master kind of thing. I do agree about the stand still left/right, but I'm ok without itt.

# 66 Goffs @ 09/18/10 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	Controls shouldn't ever be this complicated, ever. 2k is way to mechanical and unnatural to be fun. I mean that huge list is way too much to take in. Controlling your player feels more like controlling a giant robot. 2k needs to find a more natural user friendly control scheme. That huge list, and there is still no way of dribbling from your left hand to your right in a stationary position. Just not realistic to me at all.

they do release a wii version for guys who cant hang with the controls...

# 67 Earl1963 @ 09/18/10 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	While this is true, the rest of your post is terrible. Games are no longer simplistic. If you think your comment holds water, you should take a look at NHL and FIFA, two highly rated, best-selling games that have just as complicated control schemes. If I wanted simplistic I'd get a Wii. A company offering a deep, expansive system for those that want to lose themselves in the game are catering to the individual that wants the most from their $60. If you want to play sports games that simulate the real thing, then time to hop on-board the advanced controller configuration train. Otherwise, you're best left with games like NBA Jam as the sole representative in your collection.

I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick.

I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

# 68 Pared @ 09/18/10 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dat swag


	I actually prefer the fact that the controls are DEEP...Complicated is something they are not because you have to learn the moves and practice just like a player would have to practice to pull off a Euro Step or Up and Under...The learning curve IMO separates the Johnny Come Lately bums who want to master something that is overly effective and run it into the ground instead spending time trying to learn the subtle intricacies of the game... I actually like the fact that the game makes me work to be good...Too many people want INSTANT GRATIFICATION...in 2k you gotta work for it.

To someone that doesn't want to put in the time, they are definitely complicated. I don't mean that in a negative way... but the reality is they are.

I can't show my cousin who doesn't play video games how to play this game in a few minutes and have him pull of the sort of moves I can. Hell, remember when the demo first dropped and everyone was complaining about the control (myself included)? They take a while to get used to. Eventually they become familiar but they aren't what I would call intuitive.

It's a trade-off though. You just can't have this level of control and move branching with simple controls on a little controller.

# 69 bateman11 @ 09/18/10 01:20 PM

I cant execute a step back jumper without pressing the sig gather..

# 70 bigballa21 @ 09/18/10 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick. I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

I don't know if this is in 2k11 but you can change the control scheme to pull off these"complicated" moves with one button......Is that simple enough for you?...or are you gonna backpedal?

# 71 Earl1963 @ 09/18/10 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigballa21


	I don't know if this is in 2k11 but you can change the control scheme to pull off these"complicated" moves with one button......Is that simple enough for you?...or are you gonna backpedal?

If that's true then this is the way I will play 2k11.

# 72 DereckM @ 09/18/10 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick. I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

I think it depends on what type of sports your into or something. For me thinking from a bball stand point 2k11 controls are user friendly completely. But Im a natural bball player so I get it.

But on the other hand with the hockey game. It seemed like I really didnt know what was going on out there. I was controlling my guys but something was just too complicated for me. As far as trying to actually make goals and all.

But I think you can change your controls to button moves. You could do this on 2k10. So that would help a player like yourself. Press B or O and do a crossover. Very simple really. I think they have thought of guys like yourself so you have nothing to worry about.

# 73 bigballa21 @ 09/18/10 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	If that's true then this is the way I will play 2k11.

It's not an ideal way to play the game but however you want to play it is your volition.....I think it's kind of weird that some people criticize the control scheme in 2K11 for being complicated when in fact more or less the competition is the same way....Both Live/2k are kind of putting stick skills at the forefront cause obviously if you're not good with the sticks then of course you won't be able to pull off the more advanced moves

People who haven't even played the game thinks Elite is gonna be pick up and play when one of the producers himself said they're is gonna be a bit of a learning curve with the new controls....I think it's interesting people criticize 2k when Elite more or less is on the same path

# 74 Vega @ 09/18/10 04:47 PM

its just better using the sticks to pull the moves off...

its gonna b random with buttons...

wit the sticks u kno exactly wht move you are goin to pull off becuz ur making tht motion

a crossover is a cross over...hold the trigger, move the ball to the opposite hand

a spin is a spin...hold the trigger spin the stick

its actually pretty simple...

dnt b fooled by the amount of moves...tht jus means more control...

the moves are not hard 2 pull off. especially the dunks...its simply a matter of left right up or down.

the stick movements dnt get any more complicated than a half circle and thts a half spin but how often do you use that move?

controls are perfectly fine...i jus think u should take the time and get used to them...

the easier a video game is...the less likely hardcore gamers are 2 play with longevity.

if the game was too easy like u say the mac interface is, where would the fun b?

computers interfaces and video game controls are nothing alike either...

sure u want the interface to b bareable but u cnt compare the 2....

# 75 bigd916 @ 09/18/10 08:16 PM

Changing shots in mid-air FINALLY works properly!!!!!!!!!

# 76 RipCity71252 @ 09/18/10 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bateman11


	I cant execute a step back jumper without pressing the sig gather..

The key here is to not manipulate the LS at all. Just keep it held in the direction the player is going and do your best to pull the RS directly away from the basket.

After reading your post I was able to pull off 3 step backs in a row with Fish and Kobe.

Hope that helps.

# 77 Moses Shuttlesworth @ 09/18/10 11:14 PM

Caaan't wait for this

# 78 ad2255 @ 09/18/10 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl1963


	I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick. I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

Hey guys, think of the game "Street fighter" at the begining ppls think very comlicated cos u have to learn so many move with half circle, z, qtr circle of the control sticks with different buttons to do all different move, but that's the reason the game so SUCCESS n the Street fighter really effect the game of generation.
Like Street fighter If u dont like to pull off this kind of move u can just hit the button to do kick or punch maybe u still can win the game but u cant enjoy the fun of the game.
I'm glad that 2K team design the game like this yr with different move to bring the game to the other advance level, u have to study the move, partice hard to feel the truely deep fun of this game.
Ppls think comlicated in 2K11 still can just hit simple button to do the shoot n pass maybe still can win the game, but I suggest this guys buy NBA Eilte 11 or play NBA live 10.

# 79 lebron6_james @ 09/19/10 04:51 AM

anyone knows how to do quick spin move? the one that on edotD video, kobe quick spin in the paint...

# 80 mikenoob @ 09/19/10 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RipCity71252


	The key here is to not manipulate the LS at all. Just keep it held in the direction the player is going and do your best to pull the RS directly away from the basket. After reading your post I was able to pull off 3 step backs in a row with Fish and Kobe. Hope that helps.

You can also move the left stick away from the basket as you press the shoot button if you're not a shot stick user.

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