NBA 2K11 Isomotion/Shot Stick Help (360)

[Earl1963]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

While this is true, the rest of your post is terrible. Games are no longer simplistic. If you think your comment holds water, you should take a look at NHL and FIFA, two highly rated, best-selling games that have just as complicated control schemes. If I wanted simplistic I'd get a Wii. A company offering a deep, expansive system for those that want to lose themselves in the game are catering to the individual that wants the most from their $60. If you want to play sports games that simulate the real thing, then time to hop on-board the advanced controller configuration train. Otherwise, you're best left with games like NBA Jam as the sole representative in your collection.

I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick.

I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

I actually prefer the fact that the controls are DEEP...Complicated is something they are not because you have to learn the moves and practice just like a player would have to practice to pull off a Euro Step or Up and Under...The learning curve IMO separates the Johnny Come Lately bums who want to master something that is overly effective and run it into the ground instead spending time trying to learn the subtle intricacies of the game... I actually like the fact that the game makes me work to be good...Too many people want INSTANT GRATIFICATION...in 2k you gotta work for it.

To someone that doesn't want to put in the time, they are definitely complicated. I don't mean that in a negative way... but the reality is they are.

I can't show my cousin who doesn't play video games how to play this game in a few minutes and have him pull of the sort of moves I can. Hell, remember when the demo first dropped and everyone was complaining about the control (myself included)? They take a while to get used to. Eventually they become familiar but they aren't what I would call intuitive.

It's a trade-off though. You just can't have this level of control and move branching with simple controls on a little controller.

[bateman11]

I cant execute a step back jumper without pressing the sig gather..

[bigballa21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Earl1963

I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick. I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

I don't know if this is in 2k11 but you can change the control scheme to pull off these"complicated" moves with one button......Is that simple enough for you?...or are you gonna backpedal?

[Earl1963]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigballa21

I don't know if this is in 2k11 but you can change the control scheme to pull off these"complicated" moves with one button......Is that simple enough for you?...or are you gonna backpedal?

If that's true then this is the way I will play 2k11.

[DereckM]

Quote: Originally Posted by Earl1963

I disagree with you. My view of sports games evolving doesn't include making it more complicated. As technology evolve, it should become more user friendly (apple computers, DJ equipment and so much more is simpler today than it was decades ago). And NHL Hockey control schemes are not complicated at all. You have a joystick for your skates and a joystick for your hockey stick. I don't know, I'm just not feeling these controls at all, they are dated.

I think it depends on what type of sports your into or something. For me thinking from a bball stand point 2k11 controls are user friendly completely. But Im a natural bball player so I get it.

But on the other hand with the hockey game. It seemed like I really didnt know what was going on out there. I was controlling my guys but something was just too complicated for me. As far as trying to actually make goals and all.

But I think you can change your controls to button moves. You could do this on 2k10. So that would help a player like yourself. Press B or O and do a crossover. Very simple really. I think they have thought of guys like yourself so you have nothing to worry about.

[bigballa21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Earl1963

If that's true then this is the way I will play 2k11.

It's not an ideal way to play the game but however you want to play it is your volition.....I think it's kind of weird that some people criticize the control scheme in 2K11 for being complicated when in fact more or less the competition is the same way....Both Live/2k are kind of putting stick skills at the forefront cause obviously if you're not good with the sticks then of course you won't be able to pull off the more advanced moves

People who haven't even played the game thinks Elite is gonna be pick up and play when one of the producers himself said they're is gonna be a bit of a learning curve with the new controls....I think it's interesting people criticize 2k when Elite more or less is on the same path

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

To someone that doesn't want to put in the time, they are definitely complicated. I don't mean that in a negative way... but the reality is they are. I can't show my cousin who doesn't play video games how to play this game in a few minutes and have him pull of the sort of moves I can. Hell, remember when the demo first dropped and everyone was complaining about the control (myself included)? They take a while to get used to. Eventually they become familiar but they aren't what I would call intuitive. It's a trade-off though. You just can't have this level of control and move branching with simple controls on a little controller.

Agreed...I simply prefer that learning curve...It makes me want to dig deeper into the game from a strategical standpoint...and with the time it will take to be efficient with the controls we all for dang sure will get our money's worth outta the game.