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Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

06:23 AM - May 21, 2010 by wickedbadman

The Backbreaker demo is now available on the Marketplace. Post your impressions here.

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	"BACKBREAKER� is a new, revolutionary football experience that takes you straight onto the field. Breakthrough euphoria tackles, non-canned animation, and stunning on-field graphics make BACKBREAKER� the first truly live football game."

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# 461 kehlis @ 05/22/10 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	wow,we have backbreaker haters already.

While I don't doubt that there are people out there who do blindly hate this game, I haven't seen any of them in this thread. I see legitimate arguments being made by people who are actually playing the game to see if they will like it or not.

# 462 Pared @ 05/22/10 01:18 PM

Can we just stop the Madden discussion right there?

Nothing to do with Backbreaker...

# 463 Blzer @ 05/22/10 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	Has anyone played a User vs User game yet? I'd like to hear some impressions on that

Though someone debunked the User v. User idea, Tackle Alley supposedly allows multiplayer play in the demo. I'd like to hear someone's impressions on that if possible.

# 464 mrprice33 @ 05/22/10 01:20 PM

Wouldn't it just be a high score competition?

edit: for the record, I'd pay $15 for Tackle Alley on PSN/XBLA.

# 465 raiders81tim @ 05/22/10 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jmood88


	The thing is, the gameplay really isn't that great. You have quarterbacks jump passing into double coverage and/or throwing it past wide open receivers all the time, blockers who don't block the person they're supposed to, the computer calling a running play on third and long, the computer offense just being generally inept, players tackling punters for no reason, kickers missing extra point-length kicks regularly, etc. This game is far from perfect and the gameplay doesn't justify the lack of little things that make a game worth playing over and over again.

I agree no football game is perfect, but imo it is still much better than current Maddens. It gets the basics down pretty well, while Madden has yet to get things as simple as ratings that matter correct.

# 466 catcatch22 @ 05/22/10 01:23 PM

The camera issue is no different than in racing games where you have the option to race with the in car cam or not to. F355 Ferrari Challenge was the first game at the arcade to force you into the cockpit view and to be honest I liked that idea and have always picked the in the car view in every racing game I play. In a lot of the more serious racers when you setup an online lobby almost every time they give you the option to force the in car cam on everyone. The reason they give this option is for the simple fact that being in the car is much more difficult and provides the closest from of realism you can get.

If anything they should have made it where you have a choice to pick the view and force the view for online games. However maybe they have a grander vision to this with the camera.

I am telling you the camera is perfect for online team play. It is perfect. The controls are a bit clunky and the AI is a bit suspect, but if there is an option for 6 v 6 team play that would make this an easy game for me to endorse. As of right now I am still purchasing it but not as excited.

# 467 NoDakHusker @ 05/22/10 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kehlis


	This type of mentality is what causes most of the problems around here. While I don't doubt that there are people out there who do blindly hate this game, I haven't seen any of them in this thread. I see legitimate arguments being made by people who are actually playing the game to see if they will like it or not.

Yeah, if they don't like it, there's usually a legitimate reason for it. It's no different than those who enjoy it(me lol)

# 468 raiders81tim @ 05/22/10 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by catcatch22


	The camera issue is no different than in racing games where you have the option to race with the in car cam or not to. F355 Ferrari Challenge was the first game at the arcade to force you into the cockpit view and to be honest I liked that idea and have always picked the in the car view in every racing game I play. In a lot of the more serious racers when you setup an online lobby almost every time they give you the option to force the in car cam on everyone. The reason they give this option is for the simple fact that being in the car is much more difficult and provides the closest from of realism you can get. If anything they should have made it where you have a choice to pick the view and force the view for online games. However maybe they have a grander vision to this with the camera. I am telling you the camera is perfect for online team play. It is perfect. The controls are a bit clunky and the AI is a bit suspect, but if there is an option for 6 v 6 team play that would make this an easy game for me to endorse. As of right now I am still purchasing it but not as excited.

It would be perfect if there was a way to simulate head movement. Right now it's too stiff.

# 469 catcatch22 @ 05/22/10 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blzer


	Though someone debunked the User v. User idea, Tackle Alley supposedly allows multiplayer play in the demo. I'd like to hear someone's impressions on that if possible.

I think by multiplayer they meant on the same console and no have not played seen the user v user on the same console.

# 470 bkrich83 @ 05/22/10 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	well why not just ask why i made the comment? im saying that instead of like really taking this game serious as they do for madden,they should take it as the "euphoria" guys just wanting to get their product out there.i see people battering the game because it has no field goal nets,refs,sideline people etc... when its not really about that to the guys that made it. its the fact that they revolutionized tackles and other animations in the game,dont look for anything more.

That's fine and dandy. But missing things and deficiencies in the game are still missing things and deficiencies in the game, no matter why the devs made the game. They are still design decisions that are worthy of criticism.

# 471 mrprice33 @ 05/22/10 01:29 PM

I don't buy that. I could have sworn they've said many times that they aren't looking to sell their tech (btw, isn't euphoria available to everyone?), and EA would probably not look to implement it this late in the console cycle. If BB's development proved anything, it's that it takes a long time to implement this tech properly, so EA would maybe have 1 or 2 releases of football games before it was time to move on to the next systems.

# 472 Pared @ 05/22/10 01:34 PM

ONCE AGAIN,

Quit the discussions on Madden/EA.

If you want to discuss what it is missing or not, fine. But STOP DERAILING THE IMPRESSIONS THREAD.

# 473 catcatch22 @ 05/22/10 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raiders81tim


	It would be perfect if there was a way to simulate head movement. Right now it's too stiff.

I agree in serious racing games that have a realistic cockpit view, they at least allow you to look left and right to look at your mirrors. They missed the boat on that one. They should have looked at the camera as a "in car cockpit" camera and made the bumpers or the right stick be the controls to move your head to scan the field. As of right now you are limited to a small static field of vision which is visceral but way to tight.

# 474 ZeeAyKay @ 05/22/10 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blzer


	Though someone debunked the User v. User idea, Tackle Alley supposedly allows multiplayer play in the demo. I'd like to hear someone's impressions on that if possible.

I wish I would have known this earlier when I had friends over! I just checked it out. They put you on opposite sides of the field. There are 5 waves, but you don't get a number of lives, you go through the wave until someone gets into the endzone. The waves are different from the single player waves. I think that only one person gets points for getting in the endzone, so it's also a bit of a race, as well as trying to rack up points and getting combos. Seems like it would be a lot of fun.

# 475 Jukeman @ 05/22/10 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	well why not just ask why i made the comment? im saying that instead of like really taking this game serious as they do for madden,they should take it as the "euphoria" guys just wanting to get their product out there.i see people battering the game because it has no field goal nets,refs,sideline people etc... when its not really about that to the guys that made it. its the fact that they revolutionized tackles and other animations in the game,dont look for anything more.

Wait.. WHAT???

# 476 mrprice33 @ 05/22/10 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	this is what the game says to me. i made a football game with an engine that may revolutionize the way the animations look.dont expect a nfl experience,just look at these animations please.

Lol and they couldn't have done that with a tech demo whilst shopping their engine to other developers? Or they couldn't have just done tackle alley as a downloadable XBLA title? You can't market and package this game the way they have, then just say "hey, don't expect much out of your 50 dollars."

# 477 bkrich83 @ 05/22/10 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	this is what the game says to me. i made a football game with an engine that may revolutionize the way the animations look.dont expect a nfl experience,just look at these animations please.

You aren't describing a football game, you are describing a tech demo.

# 478 RaginCajun @ 05/22/10 01:46 PM

Has anyone given up a touchdown yet? Ive played 15 games all on hard and the CPU still hasn't scored on me. The game might be too easy.

# 479 Blzer @ 05/22/10 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by catcatch22


	I think by multiplayer they meant on the same console and no have not played seen the user v user on the same console.

I meant that as well, though maybe I misinterpreted what the person on the BB forums meant when he said "multiplayer". I actually very much hate the idea of referring to "online play" as "multiplayer", as seen in this rant.

So is "multiplayer" in the demo referring to online play, or split-screen?

# 480 jmood88 @ 05/22/10 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun


	Has anyone given up a touchdown yet? Ive played 15 games all on hard and the CPU still hasn't scored on me. The game might be too easy.

I've given up one in the 10 or so games I've played and that was only because I went for it on 4th down deep in my territory. If the computer has the ball farther than 10 yards away from the end zone they just lose yards or don't gain anything. The AI is horrible.

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