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Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

06:23 AM - May 21, 2010 by wickedbadman

The Backbreaker demo is now available on the Marketplace. Post your impressions here.

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	"BACKBREAKER� is a new, revolutionary football experience that takes you straight onto the field. Breakthrough euphoria tackles, non-canned animation, and stunning on-field graphics make BACKBREAKER� the first truly live football game."

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# 441 bkrich83 @ 05/22/10 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Clemalum2007


	God cam DOES NOT provide this sensation. That is a pure FACT plain and simple. .

Either does this cam, since it can't replicate peripheral vision, downfield depth perception nor the feel of players around you.

The notion that this cam makes the game more sim or realistic somehow I just don't get.

# 442 bubba4 @ 05/22/10 12:40 PM

All this camera talk brings back vivid memories of the First Person Football mode in NFL2K5. The exact same pro's and con's are being said about Backbreaker as was said back in 2004.

The more things change the more they remain the same.

Give Backbreaker a chance. From what I've seen so far, this is a quality product.

Bubba4

# 443 bkrich83 @ 05/22/10 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kehlis


	Yea, I don't understand what is difficult to understand about what you are saying. It feels like you are asking for options, and the others are just defending the only option we have...I don't get the "discussion". It isn't even about the same thing.

It's because people don't want to be objective. They just blindly defend. Mostly youngsters, who are in that "Us vs. them" mentality, where you can only like one brand of football games.

They love to use OS buzzwords to deflect from the fact their game does have some holes in it.

# 444 TheWatcher @ 05/22/10 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba4


	All this camera talk brings back vivid memories of the First Person Football mode in NFL2K5. The exact same pro's and con's are being said about Backbreaker as was said back in 2004. The more things change the more they remain the same. Give Backbreaker a chance. From what I've seen so far, this is a quality product. Bubba4

Yep. I mentioned the parallel between the mechanics of 2K's First Person Football and BackBreaker's on-field view in my impression post in this thread. Sadly, FPF was largely rejected for the same things in BackBreaker. I loved First Person Football myself, and I like the view in BackBreaker. But I'm being realistic and understanding that this one thing is going to turn a lot of people off. 2K5 was a beloved game, still is, but even most of the people who love it still have strong negatives to say about First Person Football, and I'd argue that the learning curve for FPF was nothing compared to BackBreaker's.

# 445 RGiles36 @ 05/22/10 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWatcher


	Then there are the post-play angles. BackBreaker again does a better job than the other guy. NM chose an above waist, tight shot of the player post-play. The two presentation elements I mentioned are critical to presentation. The fact that they nailed this in a game that's not even broadcast-oriented says a lot more about the guys who aren't doing it properly...

I only played for about a total of 5 mins yesterday (had to work) but the post-play shots are what stuck out to me. They're gorgeous!

# 446 RaginCajun @ 05/22/10 12:54 PM

There are no refs on the field. No field goal nets. Nobody at all on the sidelines. Camera focuses on the stadium big screen after every play. No announcers. Camera way too close. Hmm, sounds like all the complaints people had with Madden 05 which is widely considered the worst Madden ever. Cool tackles does not not make a good football game, and tackling is the only thing this game does remotely well.

# 447 jmood88 @ 05/22/10 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun


	There are no refs on the field. No field goal nets. Nobody at all on the sidelines. Camera focuses on the stadium big screen after every play. No announcers. Camera way too close. Hmm, sounds like all the complaints people had with Madden 05 which is widely considered the worst Madden ever. Cool tackles does not not make a good football game, and tackling is the only thing this game does remotely well.

Yeah they didn't focus on little things at all and the gameplay isn't good enough to make me want to ignore it.

# 448 dophin26 @ 05/22/10 12:59 PM

It is definitely "different", I'll give it that. Graphics are pretty, but that should go without saying. You can watch it all day and marvel at the detail in the uniforms, etc.

The camera angle does, indeed, throw me off at times like some said. You have to get used to it.

I can see the customization for uniforms, etc. really drawing people in. My mind was wandering to that all the time as I played.

If you expect you're going to get a different experience that the norm, you may be pleasantly surprised. It won't affect my normal sports regulars, but it might add a new branch to the video game tree.

# 449 ZeeAyKay @ 05/22/10 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun


	There are no refs on the field. No field goal nets. Nobody at all on the sidelines. Camera focuses on the stadium big screen after every play. No announcers. Camera way too close. Hmm, sounds like all the complaints people had with Madden 05 which is widely considered the worst Madden ever. Cool tackles does not not make a good football game, and tackling is the only thing this game does remotely well.

I'm sorry but you cannot compare this to Madden 06, which was the worst football game in a long time. It didn't bring anything new to the table, took out stuff it already had, and worst of all graphics weren't even that good, especially after that absurd "target trailer." Backbreaker looks and plays more like that trailer than Madden could ever hope for.

People who saying tackling is the only thing this game does well are being ridiculous.

# 450 raiders81tim @ 05/22/10 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun


	There are no refs on the field. No field goal nets. Nobody at all on the sidelines. Camera focuses on the stadium big screen after every play. No announcers. Camera way too close. Hmm, sounds like all the complaints people had with Madden 05 which is widely considered the worst Madden ever. Cool tackles does not not make a good football game, and tackling is the only thing this game does remotely well.

Backbreaker may not do the little things, but it's gameplay is far better than the current generation of madden games. If you want details more than gameplay I understand your dislike of backbreaker.

# 451 mrprice33 @ 05/22/10 01:06 PM

Back juke is way overpowered, btw.

# 452 RaginCajun @ 05/22/10 01:08 PM

In order for there to be good gameplay, I need to see what Im doing. The camera does not allow me to see what Im doing, so the gameplay suffers. If they change the camera, this game would be really good. Right now, it sucks.

I agree, all that stuff I posted (minus the camera) is all visual and adds nothing to the gameplay. Those were just things I thought I would point out since Madden haters have been harking on those things for 5 years.

# 453 jmood88 @ 05/22/10 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by raiders81tim


	Backbreaker may not do the little things, but it's gameplay is far better than the current generation of madden games. If you want details more than gameplay I understand your dislike of backbreaker.

The thing is, the gameplay really isn't that great. You have quarterbacks jump passing into double coverage and/or throwing it past wide open receivers all the time, blockers who don't block the person they're supposed to, the computer calling a running play on third and long, the computer offense just being generally inept, players tackling punters for no reason, kickers missing extra point-length kicks regularly, etc. This game is far from perfect and the gameplay doesn't justify the lack of little things that make a game worth playing over and over again.

# 454 ZeeAyKay @ 05/22/10 01:08 PM

Speaking of Madden, What's really sad, is that people gave Madden NFL 06 8 and 9 scores based on the brand alone. GUARANTEED if this game had MADDEN on the cover the scores would probably average a full point better. It still frustrates me that people can be so blind when it comes to Madden, especially journalists.

# 455 23 @ 05/22/10 01:09 PM

Has anyone played a User vs User game yet?

I'd like to hear some impressions on that

# 456 ZeeAyKay @ 05/22/10 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	Has anyone played a User vs User game yet? I'd like to hear some impressions on that

Unfortunately it's not included in the demo. I feel like a lot would change if we weren't playing the CPU.

# 457 23 @ 05/22/10 01:13 PM

Gotcha... Thanks for answering man

May all very well be different altogether in the final version period but who knows

# 458 CreatineKasey @ 05/22/10 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	Has anyone played a User vs User game yet? I'd like to hear some impressions on that

I'll be very interested to see how HUM v HUM plays out, too.

# 459 mrprice33 @ 05/22/10 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeAyKay


	Speaking of Madden, What's really sad, is that people gave Madden NFL 06 8 and 9 scores based on the brand alone. GUARANTEED if this game had MADDEN on the cover the scores would probably average a full point better. It still frustrates me that people can be so blind when it comes to Madden, especially journalists.

Really?

# 460 bkrich83 @ 05/22/10 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gamer23


	wow,we have backbreaker haters already. this game is not made to really compete (although it may) but its more of them marketing their engine so that maybe EA (and other companies) can check it out. stop being such a fan of madden and think sometimes.maybe its the cure to the crap you have been complaining about for years.

So if you have a complaint about BB you must be a Madden lover? That is excellent logic.

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