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MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

09:24 PM - April 6, 2010 by RidinDwnKingsley

OK guys, here it is.

Any suggestions, fixes or edits should be posted here. If you have any questions on how to get the rosters working, make sure you check this thread first.

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Title: OSFullMinors2010V.1

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All real players
Faces for the entire NL East and top 5-10 prospects for each team
Opening day lineups/rotations
Every player on a MLB roster is included
AAA lineups/rotations best as possible
Great for franchise play

Thanks to Knight for letting me join the cause and to Ksig for his excellent scouting and potential matches. I'm sure Knight will be around to provide input on V.2.

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# 1181 Nygs @ 05/10/10 01:10 PM

Curious, is the Jim Edmonds being a rookie thing, going to be fixed now that he is listed through SCEA as a actuall member of the Brewers. His real pic and years of service etc, are accurate. Plus are all the roster moves since opening day going to be updated in this release? Thanks.

# 1182 timmuh1515 @ 05/10/10 01:31 PM

Hey Knight...wanted to check in on what potential you had Tanner Scheppers at. I think the overwhelming thought is that he may flame out early due even as a RP to arm injuries but his stuff is really good.

Currently (11 innings, 0.82 ERA, 0.27 WHIP, 19 Ks, 0 BBs in AA)

There is a good chance he comes up this year for the Rangers as a setup type pitcher and could have a Neftali Feliz type impact down the stretch.

Anyway...i would think A potential but very low durability would be perfect for him...maybe he's already listed as such.

# 1183 yyhy @ 05/10/10 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nygs


	Curious, is the Jim Edmonds being a rookie thing, going to be fixed now that he is listed through SCEA as a actuall member of the Brewers. His real pic and years of service etc, are accurate. Plus are all the roster moves since opening day going to be updated in this release? Thanks.

They won't be able to use that SCEA created version of Edmonds because the roster they're using was made before SCEA updated him. They'd have to download the latest SCEA updated roster and then redo all they've done up to this point. So no, it won't be fixed now.

The rosters will be accurate to opening day rosters, so no transations following opening day will be there.

# 1184 yyhy @ 05/10/10 01:53 PM

Hey Knight,

Have you ever talked to Russell or anyone about making it possible to save individual created players? This way you could load them into an updated version of an SCEA roster?

I know why college players can't be used in video games, but it doesn't seem like that rule would apply to minor league baseball players. They're all professional athletes being paid money. So it just a licensing agreement that's holding up SCEA being able to add full minors themselves? It'd be awesome if this happened. I'd hope they'd hire you to lead that every year if it did.

# 1185 Knight165 @ 05/10/10 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timmuh1515


	Hey Knight...wanted to check in on what potential you had Tanner Scheppers at. I think the overwhelming thought is that he may flame out early due even as a RP to arm injuries but his stuff is really good. Currently (11 innings, 0.82 ERA, 0.27 WHIP, 19 Ks, 0 BBs in AA) There is a good chance he comes up this year for the Rangers as a setup type pitcher and could have a Neftali Feliz type impact down the stretch. Anyway...i would think A potential but very low durability would be perfect for him...maybe he's already listed as such.

I'm pretty sure it's an A....I don't know what I have his durability as.
I really hope SCEA puts in another attribute next year...and injury one and leave the durability to only influence a players readiness to play day to day......with the injury on concentrating on his tendency to go down with an injury.

Okay....21 teams down and 9 to go.
I have a super busy week this week, so I'll let you guys know the progress.
You guys will definitely be happy with the results though.....as I finish each team, I sim to the Future game now and look at the results. I love my 1B tandem of Justin Smoak and Ike Davis!

(yeah....I didn't move him up to the MLB...I get to use him in the minors.

)
Even so...Nick Weglarz was the hero in yesterday's run...hitting a homerun in the eighth off of Andrew Cashner(yeah...I used him in relief....it's an ALL-STAR game right!?

) to put the World ahead. My PH Dee Gordon made it interesting in the ninth.....tripling with one out...but I couldn't get the tying run across.

Played the game at Shea....Ike Davis looked very nice there.
Stanton homered for USA as well...a monster shot to LF.

Keep you guys posted.

M.K.
Knight165

# 1186 Trazler1 @ 05/10/10 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165


	I'm pretty sure it's an A....I don't know what I have his durability as. I really hope SCEA puts in another attribute next year...and injury one and leave the durability to only influence a players readiness to play day to day......with the injury on concentrating on his tendency to go down with an injury. Okay....21 teams down and 9 to go. I have a super busy week this week, so I'll let you guys know the progress. You guys will definitely be happy with the results though.....as I finish each team, I sim to the Future game now and look at the results. I love my 1B tandem of Justin Smoak and Ike Davis! (yeah....I didn't move him up to the MLB...I get to use him in the minors.) Even so...Nick Weglarz was the hero in yesterday's run...hitting a homerun in the eighth off of Andrew Cashner(yeah...I used him in relief....it's an ALL-STAR game right!?) to put the World ahead. My PH Dee Gordon made it interesting in the ninth.....tripling with one out...but I couldn't get the tying run across. Played the game at Shea....Ike Davis looked very nice there. Stanton homered for USA as well...a monster shot to LF. Keep you guys posted. M.K. Knight165

Knight I appreciate all of your HardWork!!!.....You and MLB the show r the reason I recently bought a PS3!!!!

I'm playing MLB Power Pros 2010 on the IPOD until your V2 comes out

Crossing my fingers that you'll have it done by the end of this weekend...

u da man!!!!

Ty again Knight!

# 1187 Knight165 @ 05/10/10 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yyhy


	Hey Knight, Have you ever talked to Russell or anyone about making it possible to save individual created players? This way you could load them into an updated version of an SCEA roster? I know why college players can't be used in video games, but it doesn't seem like that rule would apply to minor league baseball players. They're all professional athletes being paid money. So it just a licensing agreement that's holding up SCEA being able to add full minors themselves? It'd be awesome if this happened. I'd hope they'd hire you to lead that every year if it did.

Actually, I have.
I would love the idea of being able to download individual players and inserting them into rosters.
I know it's possible.....and would technically put me out of "business"

(hey I CAN play a few games a year!

)....but I don't know how interested they were in this.
Believe it or not....I think the pressure from the MLB to lock in a lot of this is pretty strong, silly as it sounds. The MLB is a little oppressive with what it will allow with things being open ended for edit. They probably had to convince them to allow us to be able to be able to edit fake players in the game!
I know they won't allow certain names and nicknames to be in(I see they finally were able to sneak "Dick" in).
This is one of the reasons I don't hold any hope for a custom league feature(for recreating past seasons).

M.K.
Knight165

# 1188 D3C4K @ 05/10/10 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight165


	I'm pretty sure it's an A....I don't know what I have his durability as. I really hope SCEA puts in another attribute next year...and injury one and leave the durability to only influence a players readiness to play day to day......with the injury on concentrating on his tendency to go down with an injury. Okay....21 teams down and 9 to go. I have a super busy week this week, so I'll let you guys know the progress. You guys will definitely be happy with the results though.....as I finish each team, I sim to the Future game now and look at the results. I love my 1B tandem of Justin Smoak and Ike Davis! (yeah....I didn't move him up to the MLB...I get to use him in the minors.) Even so...Nick Weglarz was the hero in yesterday's run...hitting a homerun in the eighth off of Andrew Cashner(yeah...I used him in relief....it's an ALL-STAR game right!?) to put the World ahead. My PH Dee Gordon made it interesting in the ninth.....tripling with one out...but I couldn't get the tying run across. Played the game at Shea....Ike Davis looked very nice there. Stanton homered for USA as well...a monster shot to LF. Keep you guys posted. M.K. Knight165

Argh!!! Now you're just teasing us.

I know you're updating all the minor league faces, but how many changes have you made to their ratings? From the sounds of things you've made a ton, judging from the much improved futures game. Also, how many years of simming does it take for top prospects to reach every-day MLB player status (for the ones that pan out, at least)? I'm curious to see how the progression works. With all the training options in franchise mode, I also wonder how involved I'll have to be to make sure my top prospects reach their potential. Thanks again to all for your hard work.

# 1189 JaSnake16 @ 05/10/10 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by yyhy


	May 10th, still have pitch edits and Bahnzo's Rostertools edits to make... gonna be a challenge to catch up with the season lol

I know on my end its not gonna take that long. Just the in game inputting and some sim runs. A night maybe two and a shot for TD to take a look and QA. Cant speak for Razr though.

# 1190 Knight165 @ 05/10/10 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleHawk55


	Hey Knight I just wanted to thank you for all the work you have put in and time you have spent the last few years to make this game more enjoyable and make dynasty's able to play for a while.

Thank you very much.
It's much appreciated.

Like JaSnake, I don't think Razr will actually take that long for that version.

As far as edits to the minor league guys from v1....yes a lot. Some are very minor, while some are pretty big. I'm going through every player though.
...and true the picks for the Futures Game is a very good indicator of that.

M.K.
Knight165

# 1191 ksig24 @ 05/10/10 08:15 PM

FYI I think that all players should have medium builds. I know there are a few players out there small in stature, but upon further review of players like Aaron Hicks, skinny body types have little realism effect on the game. The majority of pro ball players are pretty well developed. I meet with these kids every day and I am wondering what was in their Wheaties that wasnt in mine? I mean these kids these days are literal beasts. I met Slade Heathcott and Jake Marisnick last season and they are both like .2 percent body fat.

Kyle Skipworth is 6'3 and somewhat lanky, but he is nowhere near skinny like he is in the game. Just a little FYI

CHW Jon Gilmore, not John is raking down on the farm.

Cody Overbeck - power needs to be tweaked for the better.

Brandon Tripp needs to be created and added to the Jacksonville Suns (Marlins)

# 1192 gkasper @ 05/11/10 09:52 AM

So much for my idea

Tyler Flowers or Adam Moores A ratings could be switched with Ramos, but I just realized they are both SCEA.

Posey, Montero, Meyers, Santana, Norris, Castro, Flowers, and Moore.
All A rated catching prospects while Ramos sits at a B.

Oh well I rest my case...

Sooooooooooo excited for the next versions of the roster
Thanks for making this game much cooler

# 1193 greenday619 @ 05/11/10 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkasper


	So much for my idea Tyler Flowers or Adam Moores A ratings could be switched with Ramos, but I just realized they are both SCEA. Posey, Montero, Meyers, Santana, Norris, Castro, Flowers, and Moore. All A rated catching prospects while Ramos sits at a B. Oh well I rest my case... Sooooooooooo excited for the next versions of the roster Thanks for making this game much cooler

Homerism at its finest, Ramos is not an A prospect, he had a great first two games and has I think one hit since then....you have Mauer anyways....All of those players you listed have more potential that Ramos except for maybe Flowers and Moore

# 1194 timmuh1515 @ 05/11/10 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenday619


	Homerism at its finest, Ramos is not an A prospect, he had a great first two games and has I think one hit since then....you have Mauer anyways....All of those players you listed have more potential that Ramos except for maybe Flowers and Moore

How he performs in MLB as a 22 year old doesn't indicate how good of a prospect he is. There are a lot of great players who struggled early in the big leagues. Mauer doesn't effect his ability either

There is a good chance Ramos gets traded this year for some help down the stretch...his defense along with his offense is what makes him an intriguing catching prospect.

# 1195 ksig24 @ 05/11/10 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkasper


	So much for my idea Tyler Flowers or Adam Moores A ratings could be switched with Ramos, but I just realized they are both SCEA. Posey, Montero, Meyers, Santana, Norris, Castro, Flowers, and Moore. All A rated catching prospects while Ramos sits at a B. Oh well I rest my case... Sooooooooooo excited for the next versions of the roster Thanks for making this game much cooler

Please continue. I would love to hear why you think that Ramos in superior to the list of catching prospects with A potentials? Dont forget Max Stassi either. The only names I would test here would be the SCEA guys. I dont find Moore or Flowers A's right now.

# 1196 ltw0303cavs @ 05/11/10 07:47 PM

Once again if you have Montero as an A then his catching abilities will improve like an A and he is not that. Even the Yanks dont think he is a catcher and right now he cant even run out a ground ball. I agree Posey and Santana as A's no doubt. Flowers only threw out 18 percent of hitters in AAA. I just think if your a catcher with an A potenial you have to not just be good on one side or the other you have to be good at one end and at least decent at the other. Ramos is better defensively than Flowers and has a better arm.

# 1197 markpmitch @ 05/11/10 08:08 PM

this is kind of why I wish different categories had different potentials... at least in a general sense like hitting potential, defense potential, baserunning potential... something like that

it'd be even cooler if they were more specific like power potential, etc...

I also think things like speed and arm strength should be a fairly fixed attribute.. those pretty much are what they are, and wouldn't really change much in real life

# 1198 jethrotull @ 05/11/10 08:12 PM

Had a random question here, but any idea of the potential on a kid like Daniel Fields in the Tigers system? I heard they were moving him to the outfield already and he was drafted as a shortstop. Baseball America stated that he has first round talent, and that he was the best athlete in the Tigers draft. Supposedly he can hit and they like him in the outfield, my question to anyone, is this true?

# 1199 gkasper @ 05/11/10 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ksig24


	Please continue. I would love to hear why you think that Ramos in superior to the list of catching prospects with A potentials? Dont forget Max Stassi either. The only names I would test here would be the SCEA guys. I dont find Moore or Flowers A's right now.

My point has been for a while now that Ramos deserves a place among those top 8 catching prospects that I mentioned. He shows real potential. He is ranked higher by BA than the SCEA guys (I understand that they won't be changed).

At 22 years old with pop and a cannon Ramos is a legit prospect. And while you may not like him more than the others on the list Ksig... you could as easily be proven wrong in the future, as any one of those prospects that are rated as an A could prove to be a bust. I am not saying that their ratings should go to Ramos (except for Flowers and Moore and they won't be changed).

Anyway, like I said, I rest my case cause I have been beating this to death.

Out of curiousity Ksig, who is the player that you are thinking you would throw the A potential rating? And why is it that you don't see Ramos as an A prospect along with the others? (This is not for sake of argument... I truly want to know your opinion on this).

# 1200 RAZRr1275 @ 05/11/10 08:23 PM

Okay just for guys that are wondering about time on my end, i'm not going to comment on that. When I start though I will probably give you guys daily updates of how many teams are done and you can predict the date with my speed if you choose to.

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