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MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

09:24 PM - April 6, 2010 by RidinDwnKingsley

OK guys, here it is.

Any suggestions, fixes or edits should be posted here. If you have any questions on how to get the rosters working, make sure you check this thread first.

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Title: OSFullMinors2010V.1

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All real players
Faces for the entire NL East and top 5-10 prospects for each team
Opening day lineups/rotations
Every player on a MLB roster is included
AAA lineups/rotations best as possible
Great for franchise play

Thanks to Knight for letting me join the cause and to Ksig for his excellent scouting and potential matches. I'm sure Knight will be around to provide input on V.2.

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# 1161 Qb @ 05/09/10 09:43 PM

Very reluctant to get involved in the B --> A conversation, but speak now or forever blah, blah, blah. If you bump someone up, would you consider giving Starling Marte of the Pirates the leftover B potential (currently a D IIRC)?

I believe he was the 6th rated Pirates prospect by BA coming into the season and is hammering high-A pitching in Bradenton (along with most of the team). He is a very toolsy CF/OF prospect and management insists his defense is practically ML caliber now. Here is an article from ST, before he started raking in A-ball:

Spring Training: Starling in the Making

I know I'm no pro scout, but if I had to bet on one Pirates position prospect to hit it big -- other than Pedro -- I think it could be Marte. Thank you for your time, gentlemen.

# 1162 ksig24 @ 05/09/10 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Qb


	Very reluctant to get involved in the B --> A conversation, but speak now or forever blah, blah, blah. If you bump someone up, would you consider giving Starling Marte of the Pirates the leftover B potential (currently a D IIRC)? I believe he was the 6th rated Pirates prospect by BA coming into the season and is hammering high-A pitching in Bradenton (along with most of the team). He is a very toolsy CF/OF prospect and management insists his defense is practically ML caliber now. Here is an article from ST, before he started raking in A-ball: Spring Training: Starling in the Making I know I'm no pro scout, but if I had to bet on one Pirates position prospect to hit it big -- other than Pedro -- I think it could be Marte. Thank you for your time, gentlemen.

I too like Marte and I have him rated a C/B potential. He should be rated accordingly.

# 1163 El_MaYiMbE @ 05/09/10 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ksig24


	Question for the set. Are we making a players best pitch the x button? Or is the x button the pitch he throws most for strikes? There are a lot of players whom have 7-8 pitches that are secondary in the game o button. Thoughts?

I think the X button should be their primary fastball pitch, (whether it be a RFB, 2FB, 4FB, Cutter). Then I think from O forward it goes in order of the best to worst (counter clock-wise)

# 1164 ssxtricky30 @ 05/09/10 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloia50


	sorry to be a nag, any eta on v2?

Why dont you try reading some of Knights posts and progressive statements? Maybe you can find an answer you want in there.

# 1165 Knight165 @ 05/09/10 10:33 PM

Well....I'm leaning towards Ramos as the A....something about Jackson.....

....I'm probably dead wrong.

Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B.
I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also.

Not sure about lining up pitches....I just go with what I read....which does vary from one to another ....a LOT. Heck...some guides list or don't list a pitch...while the other has the opposite.

...it'll drive you nuts!

M.K.
Knight165

# 1166 ksig24 @ 05/09/10 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Well....I'm leaning towards Ramos as the A....something about Jackson.........I'm probably dead wrong. Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also. Not sure about lining up pitches....I just go with what I read....which does vary from one to another ....a LOT. Heck...some guides list or don't list a pitch...while the other has the opposite....it'll drive you nuts! M.K. Knight165

Ramos as the A!!!? Why? He will not play every day. Unless he gets traded than the B potential is where he should be. Can you post the list of A position players. Lets look into this a little more before we pull the trigger on Ramos. I know that its not a big deal making him an A because of the potential for potential to increase.

# 1167 timmuh1515 @ 05/09/10 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Well....I'm leaning towards Ramos as the A....something about Jackson.........I'm probably dead wrong. Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also. Not sure about lining up pitches....I just go with what I read....which does vary from one to another ....a LOT. Heck...some guides list or don't list a pitch...while the other has the opposite....it'll drive you nuts! M.K. Knight165

I think it is the right call and if you checked with baseball scouts i think they'd agree. Jackson's batting average in balls in play right now it ridiculous...seriously it is unbelievable. At best he ends the year batting .290 with little speed and little power. A major slump is in his future.

# 1168 ebarws6 @ 05/09/10 11:31 PM

Dallas Braden? lol

# 1169 markpmitch @ 05/09/10 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Well....I'm leaning towards Ramos as the A....something about Jackson.........I'm probably dead wrong. Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also. Not sure about lining up pitches....I just go with what I read....which does vary from one to another ....a LOT. Heck...some guides list or don't list a pitch...while the other has the opposite....it'll drive you nuts! M.K. Knight165

both good... i would go with your initial thought of Poythress as B

# 1170 Knight165 @ 05/09/10 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ksig24


	Ramos as the A!!!? Why? He will not play every day. Unless he gets traded than the B potential is where he should be. Can you post the list of A position players. Lets look into this a little more before we pull the trigger on Ramos. I know that its not a big deal making him an A because of the potential for potential to increase.

Haha...don't worry...we've got time.
I still have a fair amount of work to do.

B's...Lawrie.....Frazier......Bell.......Ramos.... Jackson.....those are the ones I see as possibilities for the bump.

M.K.
Knight165

# 1171 TheRunAndShoot @ 05/10/10 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by markpmitch


	both good... i would go with your initial thought of Poythress as B

I agree.

# 1172 jaybird313 @ 05/10/10 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by timmuh1515


	I think it is the right call and if you checked with baseball scouts i think they'd agree. Jackson's batting average in balls in play right now it ridiculous...seriously it is unbelievable. At best he ends the year batting .290 with little speed and little power. A major slump is in his future.

Little speed? Wow...have you caught a Tigers game? Rod Allen would tell you to "slow down big fella"! Jackson has some wheels, he's not Jose Reyes, but he's got wheels. And speed does not slump my friend. I'm saying all this in good fun, you are spot on about the average of balls put in play...he's averaging almost a strikeout per game, which makes you scratch your head about the .370 BA straight away. I just have a hard time seeing anyone on that list rated an A over A-Jax, but I'm in for whatever, just passing the time with some friendly debate.

# 1173 Jason_19 @ 05/10/10 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	I know you are probably referencing Wikipedia

Just for the record, I didn't use Wikipedia. I remember hearing that he was born in New York years ago. I followed him very closely when he was at Vanderbilt. I did check his Vanderbilt bio and it says that he was born in New york, but it doesn't state where specifically. I thought he was born in the Bronx, but I just checked and I couldn't find anything other than he went to prep school in the Bronx and, before that, he went to school in Harlem.

I never use Wikipedia for source information of any kind. In the interest of full disclosure, I did use Wikipedia earlier to check the rosters for the 2009 Futures Game to make sure that Pedro was on the U.S. team.

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also.

As much as I like Poythress, I couldn't disagree if Marte was given the B. I would still have to choose Poythress, though.

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Originally Posted by timmuh1515


	I think it is the right call and if you checked with baseball scouts i think they'd agree.

Not all of them would agree.

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Originally Posted by timmuh1515


	Jackson's batting average in balls in play right now it ridiculous...seriously it is unbelievable. At best he ends the year batting .290 with little speed and little power. A major slump is in his future.

I wouldn't bet on that. As for his speed and power, he has plus speed and more power than most people realize.

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	B's...Lawrie.....Frazier......Bell.......Ramos.... Jackson.....those are the ones I see as possibilities for the bump.

It's difficult to only choose one out of those players. I would give it to Jackson, Frazier or Lawrie. My first choice is Jackson and my second choice is a toss up between Frazier and Lawrie.

# 1174 WDOgF0reL1fe @ 05/10/10 02:33 AM

Dont know if this has been asked. But is Rojo Johnson going to be in the latest update?
Hes got a killer fastball and plays for the Houston AAA team i believe.
Just out of prison.

# 1175 ksig24 @ 05/10/10 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	Just for the record, I didn't use Wikipedia. I remember hearing that he was born in New York years ago. I followed him very closely when he was at Vanderbilt. I did check his Vanderbilt bio and it says that he was born in New york, but it doesn't state where specifically. I thought he was born in the Bronx, but I just checked and I couldn't find anything other than he went to prep school in the Bronx and, before that, he went to school in Harlem. I never use Wikipedia for source information of any kind. In the interest of full disclosure, I did use Wikipedia earlier to check the rosters for the 2009 Futures Game to make sure that Pedro was on the U.S. team. As much as I like Poythress, I couldn't disagree if Marte was given the B. I would still have to choose Poythress, though. Not all of them would agree. I wouldn't bet on that. As for his speed and power, he has plus speed and more power than most people realize. It's difficult to only choose one out of those players. I would give it to Jackson, Frazier or Lawrie. My first choice is Jackson and my second choice is a toss up between Frazier and Lawrie.

Jackson pretty much is what it is with him especially him now being an SCEA guy. I would probably take a B player and take SCEA's ratings and create him being that he is a CAP. As far as Ramos is concerned, he does play a scarce position and has a good arm with good power. Lawrie plays a position where power needs to be prominent and power he has. I say do whatever suits your needs Mike. I am becoming more and more impressed with Everett Williams and Trayce. At this point I am too busy with the draft that I am starting to wonder what we are gonna do with the set next month? We will be adding a ton of new prospects.

# 1176 gkasper @ 05/10/10 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Well....I'm leaning towards Ramos as the A....something about Jackson.........I'm probably dead wrong. Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also. Not sure about lining up pitches....I just go with what I read....which does vary from one to another ....a LOT. Heck...some guides list or don't list a pitch...while the other has the opposite....it'll drive you nuts! M.K. Knight165

Hey thanks for acknowledging that Ramos deserves a bump... felt like I was arguing with some people just for mentioning it yesterday.

I had another idea.
Tyler Flowers, Tony Sanchez, Travis d'Arnaud, Adam Moore, and Hank Conger are all catchers ranked below Ramos on BA's top 100 prospects (in that order--meaning Flowers is the closest to Ramos). I haven't checked them all in the rosters, but I know that Flowers has an A rating. Maybe you could give an A rating from a lower ranked catcher to Ramos?

Ksig is right that Ramos won't see much playing time in the majors this year, but the reason is a guy named Joe Mauer. At 22 years old Ramos obviously has a lot to work on especially with his hitting after going 1-18 since starting the season with 7 hits in his first two games.

A worse team without a batting champ/MVP catcher might just be playing this guy every day in the major leagues in spite of his learning curve. The reason that he will be in the minors is that the Twins are stacked with catching and want Ramos to play every day, not be a backup.

Drew Butera will remain Mauer's backup until Jose Morales gets his injury stuff taken care of and proves in the minor leagues that he is ready to back up Mauer again. Morales will replace Butera at some point. Ramos will be starting for Rochester all season because he needs the playing time.

# 1177 bigjdotcom01 @ 05/10/10 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ksig24


	At this point I am too busy with the draft that I am starting to wonder what we are gonna do with the set next month? We will be adding a ton of new prospects.

It would be sweet if this set came out soon.

# 1178 Qb @ 05/10/10 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ksig24


	I too like Marte and I have him rated a C/B potential. He should be rated accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Marte is a D in the set.....I could easily slide him into a B. I was going to create Poythress as the B...but Marte is a good looking player also.

I understand you guys are in a tough spot due to potential being locked. But if you can find a way to make it work without shortchanging a more deserving player, it'd be great. With FMv1, the Bucs didn't have much after Alvarez, Tabata & Sanchez -- which is mostly accurate -- so having a Marte as a diamond in the rough would be cool.

Can't wait for the finished product!

# 1179 yyhy @ 05/10/10 12:24 PM

May 10th, still have pitch edits and Bahnzo's Rostertools edits to make... gonna be a challenge to catch up with the season lol

# 1180 bigjdotcom01 @ 05/10/10 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by yyhy


	May 10th, still have pitch edits and Bahnzo's Rostertools edits to make... gonna be a challenge to catch up with the season lol

Probably looking like mid-June for all of that...at the earliest.

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