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Madden NFL 11 News Post

IGN has posted the first Madden NFL 11 screenshots, as well as the first details on the game.

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"Not only will players recognize the boundaries of the field, but Cummings also said that they'd be fully aware of the location of first down markers. "We have specifically tuned and added support to make it so receivers wait for the ball on a curl and have awareness for the first down. Also, receivers will now be working to catch the ball in stride on crossing routes so they don't end up slowing down or losing yardage," said Cummings. He later conceded that receivers will occasionally lose yardage if it means coming back to the ball and avoiding an interception. I, for one, can live with that.

But what about defense? It seems with all this newfound firepower for the offense, the defensive guys might have fallen by the wayside. Cummings assured us that wasn't the case, saying, "We never want to make it so the offense is too powerful, so we have really focused on giving the defenders the ability to go up and also knock the ball out in mid-air. We've added all new animations for mid-air collisions so defenders have an even better ability to get up with a receiver and fight for the ball. With recent changes, players will definitely play the ball more aggressively, but the elite guys are the ones who are going to be able to hang on to it." So while you'll see wide receivers like Larry Fitzgerald going up in traffic and coming down with an astounding grab, there's certainly the opportunity for defenders like Ed Reed to make you sorry you ever tried working the ball into the middle of the field."

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# 161 Tiko7523 @ 03/24/10 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bxgoods
The screens leave me disappointed, it looks like Madden 10. I was hoping they would get rid of that stick figure problem in 10, and add more meat to the players. The players are too skinny, they don't look like real football players.
same here really really let down.
 
# 162 MrDhWhat @ 03/24/10 04:15 PM
Great Post !
 
# 163 Bgamer90 @ 03/24/10 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by carnalnirvava
OBVIOUSLY NOT its the same stuff from the past 2 yrs
Yep... Madden 11 is finished and ready for release.



Anyways, in terms of news about them working more in depth on fixing sideline catches, what would you guys have wanted more?

No info at all about the matter, more than likely causing ones to ask EA, "Did you guys fix sideline catches?!?" and then say, "They aren't responding... they must not have been fixed! EA is lazy!!!!!"?

Or would you all have rather them do what they did now with this IGN article along with the recently released blog?

Seems like either way a lot of you guys would be acting pretty much the same (judging on how ones are acting now).
 
# 164 MizzouBravesFan @ 03/24/10 04:41 PM
LOL at parts of this thread...I guess its just me but I have more patience than others. I'm not ready to abandon ship after the FIRST tidbit of info and a couple of screens.
I like Ian and his team and do believe they can fix the problems. I like what I've seen from NCAA so far and I'm sure with more time I'll be hyped for Madden as well.

Are there problems with the game? Sure...everyone can agree on that. Its early though people...chill and let things come out and develop. To form an opinion on the game this early, either way, is just baffling to me. Can't believe people are freaking out and ready to give up on the game already.
 
# 165 RogueHominid @ 03/24/10 04:51 PM
Interesting read.

I am liking the Austin picture and am ho-hum on the Boldin one. Context is very important there--it looks like Bullitt is sort of floating, and it's hard to tell where he came from on the field or what he's trying to do.

One animation that I hope disappears is the one where a defender hits a leaping receiver in the hamstring and causes him to do a complete backwards somersault. That happens a ton and is terrible from an aesthetic standpoint.
 
# 166 SageInfinite @ 03/24/10 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamehead
I will say this HAS been an interesting read and props to everyone for expressing their opinions without getting inflammatory.

I will say though, I am (respectfully) as much fascinated with those who say "it's early" as they are of the ones who are skeptical of the info so far. I'm of the belief that after 6 years on the current gen consoles, the track record is such that the skepticism is well-founded.

I admire those who are optimistic, giving EA the benefit of the doubt (it is a noble thing), but I believe that optimism should be earned by EA first. I'm sure some people's optimism is based on the fact that '10 WAS a better game, so can't fault you there.

But I can't fault those whose patience has run out either. Early? IMHO, after 6 years, there is no "early" anymore.
 
# 167 Only1LT @ 03/24/10 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
Yep... Madden 11 is finished and ready for release.



Anyways, in terms of news about them working more in depth on fixing sideline catches, what would you guys have wanted more?

No info at all about the matter, more than likely causing ones to ask EA, "Did you guys fix sideline catches?!?" and then say, "They aren't responding... they must not have been fixed! EA is lazy!!!!!"?

Or would you all have rather them do what they did now with this IGN article along with the recently released blog?

Seems like either way a lot of you guys would be acting pretty much the same (judging on how ones are acting now).
Some probably would. I tell you something else. I have a feeling that you would be acting differently if all the responses were positive.

I have yet to see you say to anyone that has a favorable opinion that it is too early to form an opinion. Let's call a spade a spade, you're trying to sound diplomatic, but the truth is you only think it's too early to form an opinion unless it is a positive one.

You can say I'm wrong, but I'm just judging by what has transpired in the pages of this thread.
 
# 168 roadman @ 03/24/10 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Only1LT
Some probably would. I tell you something else. I have a feeling that you would be acting differently if all the responses were positive.

I have yet to see you say to anyone that has a favorable opinion that it is too early to form an opinion. Let's call a spade a spade, you're trying to sound diplomatic, but the truth is you only think it's too early to form an opinion unless it is a positive one.

You can say I'm wrong, but I'm just judging by what has transpired in the pages of this thread.
Whew! Waiting till August with my opinions.
 
# 169 HolyCrap @ 03/24/10 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
I don't know if you were privy to this last month, but Ian came out and apologized to those who felt mislead for things falling off the development wheel.

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking this year Ian and the blog makers will make sure if they blog something, it will be in the game.

I hope I'm not wrong on that gut feeling. If I am, then shame on me.
EA has given me no reason to trust them so far so i will stay skeptical till the final product is released and i am able to make a definitive decision
 
# 170 HolyCrap @ 03/24/10 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by N@X_WiZaRD
I remember seeing this same exact line referring to Madden 10. And we still saw it in the final game.

So it'll be in Madden 11, guaranteed. Am I surprised? No, not really. The current animation system is intrinsically unrealistic. There's way too many stiff and awkward transitions between animations (which directly contribute to the ugly animation you referred to). The blending technology that EA constantly brings up simply DOES NOT WORK. It's like putting sprinkles and frosting on a piece of crap. Sure, it looks all shiny and colorful at first glance, but in the end, it's still smells.

I suspect we're not going to get a major re-haul in animation technology until 2012 (at earliest) - after Back-Breaker. Until then, 2011 is going to look much like 2010 in movement. And again, you shouldn't be surprised.

Ian and the crew aren't going to revolutionize their animation system until the market forces them to. And really, I don't blame them.
EA sports has reported a loss for a while now so unlikely they are willing to overhaul the the game...looks like we are stuck with the motion capture and animations that EA's gaming engine produces
 
# 171 roadman @ 03/24/10 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by HolyCrap
EA has given me no reason to trust them so far so i will stay skeptical till the final product is released and i am able to make a definitive decision
Never doubted that.
 
# 172 KANE699 @ 03/24/10 09:45 PM
I love the over reaction in this thread all because of one animation, lol.
 
# 173 SteelerSpartan @ 03/24/10 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by KANE699
I love the over reaction in this thread all because of one animation, lol.
its more like 4-5 years of bad animations that have people worried
 
# 174 Bgamer90 @ 03/24/10 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Only1LT
Some probably would. I tell you something else. I have a feeling that you would be acting differently if all the responses were positive.

I have yet to see you say to anyone that has a favorable opinion that it is too early to form an opinion. Let's call a spade a spade, you're trying to sound diplomatic, but the truth is you only think it's too early to form an opinion unless it is a positive one.
Honestly that's not true.

I just don't get ones that are completely bashing the game and the devs so soon especially since the news that came about the game is something that has the potential of helping the game out a lot. It honestly doesn't make any sense to me that news like this will bring out messages like "F Ian" (lol).

There has been people in this thread that have stated their position on waiting in a mature matter and that I have no problem with.

Basically, I'm not trying to get ones to be more positive... just trying to get ones to act more mature and reasonable. There's no reason to get so worked up this early with only a little bit of info about the game. And as pared said in another thread, many of the replies don't really even make sense from a logical standpoint.

While I liked the news, I'm not really "pumped" for the game and won't be until a lot of news about the game comes.
 
# 175 Only1LT @ 03/25/10 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgamer90
Honestly that's not true.

I just don't get ones that are completely bashing the game and the devs so soon especially since the news that came about the game is something that has the potential of helping the game out a lot. It honestly doesn't make any sense to me that news like this will bring out messages like "F Ian" (lol).

There has been people in this thread that have stated their position on waiting in a mature matter and that I have no problem with.

Basically, I'm not trying to get ones to be more positive... just trying to get ones to act more mature and reasonable. There's no reason to get so worked up this early with only a little bit of info about the game. And as pared said in another thread, many of the replies don't really even make sense from a logical standpoint.

While I liked the news, I'm not really "pumped" for the game and won't be until a lot of news about the game comes.

I hear what you're saying. I really do, but the fact of the matter is that there is an imbalance, not just with you, but with many people on this, or any forum.

I'm not even saying that you are making a conscious effort to try and engender goodwill for the game. That's not what I'm saying at all. Look, there have definitely been a few crazy comments based off of very little info. I get that, but the overwhelming majority of the posts are just stating that they heard this before and that they are skeptical. And I don't believe you have a problem with those types of comments either, nor should you.

The comments that you seem to have a problem with, based off of the types of comments that you replied to, are the ones that said that the game is gonna be horrible in a nutshell. So you responded to them saying you can't know that from 2 screens and the little info that was given, in a nutshell. Which is perfectly logical and I have no problem with it. The thing of it is, there have also been a few, not many but a few comments that said that the game is gonna be awesome, based off of the same 2 screens and a little info, yet you did not reply to a single one of them and say that it was too early to form an opinion. That is the imbalance that I am talking about. And again, it isn't just you, it's pervasive.

If someone came on here and wrote "those screens were so awesome that I'm jizzing all over my monitor, Madden 11 is gonna be epic baby", that person is jumping to conclusions just as much as someone who says "those screens suck Madden 11 fail" at this point, and they too, are adding absolutely nothing to the thread, but I guarantee you that the person that made the first statement need not fear any reprimand from Pared or any other mod. Anyone that doubts this, hasn't been paying attention.
 
# 176 Hova57 @ 03/25/10 12:29 PM
like someone wrote before Ian is getting the blame for poor management before him he's trying to make the change but its too much in one cycle.
 
# 177 Only1LT @ 03/25/10 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hova57
like someone wrote before Ian is getting the blame for poor management before him he's trying to make the change but its too much in one cycle.
Ian does all that he can I'm fairly certain. Whether he is the best man for the job or not I have no idea, but I don't doubt that he is passionate about trying to improve the game.

The unfortunate thing for him, and for us as consumers is that the business model that he is working under is not all that conducive to putting the best product out. Taking off a year or two to retool is not an option.

I understand the model, and why they would use it. It has been profitable for them overall to this point i would imagine. Which is part of why I say that it is unfortunate.
 
# 178 kjcheezhead @ 03/25/10 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hova57
like someone wrote before Ian is getting the blame for poor management before him he's trying to make the change but its too much in one cycle.
Ian is getting the blame for years of out right lies from EA, no doubt. The sideline catch has been promised to us since forever.

Ian also has done some damage himself. I know he apologized for misleading people with last years blogs, but I felt they were more than a little misleading as so did alot of others it seems. Screenshots of old animations and promises they are improving this isn't going to get it done anymore. The amount of negativity towards the first Madden 10 info is really telling to that imo.
 
# 179 Hova57 @ 03/25/10 01:29 PM
your right but my point is you have a director who is trying to put the game right, he may have gotten to excited in his expresson of information. But he is on the right track, alot of this should have been in the game, and i think the game will be ok.
 
# 180 roadman @ 03/25/10 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kjcheezhead
Ian is getting the blame for years of out right lies from EA, no doubt. The sideline catch has been promised to us since forever.

The amount of negativity towards the first Madden 10 info is really telling to that imo.
I think negativity is too strong of a word.

I don't blame people for being skeptical and having a show me don't tell me attitude, especially if they feel that they were intentionally lied to. (which sounds like that's what you are saying)

I really don't think people are being negative when they are saying the above.
 


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