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DAY 2

First thing we did was play a FULL game when I arrived today. Russell would choose the Minnesota Twins and I chose the St. Louis Cardinals (No Holliday). After playing him yesterday for 5 innings and only seeing a run between us I knew we were going to be in for another pitcher's duel. Starting Pitcher Brad Penny (Cards) and his opposing pitcher(Slowery? - Not sure if it was him or Baker) would battle it out for 7 innings. In the 4th(thereabouts), Slowery would give up a lone solo HR to Bengie Molina. Molina got ahead in the count and hit a knee high curveball into the LF bleachers. This would be all the Cards would need. The Twins had a couple opportunities in the game but their biggest came in the bottom of the 7th when Span would lead off with a base hit. Mauer would come up and drive one DEEP to LF-CF to the track but it would be hauled in by Rasmus who had to run a long way and Span was caught by a hair as he was almost to third base. Penny was on top of his game with 8 K's. Penny's curveball was hitting the low strike zone early in the game but was falling out of the zone later and Russell wasn't able to lay off. Penny also threw inside fastballs for K's on a few occasions that locked the Twinkies out. The Twins next opportunity to score would be when Penny was taken out of the game. Ryan Franklin would be pulled with a runner on 1st and no outs in the 9th. Motte came in and slammed the door. The Cards other run came on a bases loaded 3-1 pitch by Pat Neshak (I swung too). Neshak was MASTERFUL. I couldn't figure out the submariner who was just plain hard for me to pick up the ball out of his hand. I believe Russell had 10 hits to my 8.

An outstanding game and Russell was a First Class Act taking the loss. I wouldn't have expected it any other way!

OBSERVATIONS:

There is no quick pitching!!! The pitcher cannot hit a button to speed up ONLY the batter!

Saw 2 fans at the same time down the RF line reaching over the wall near the ground trying to scoop foul ball.

PITCHING

The meter looks the same but somehow just feels better. It does seem to penalize you worse the more you miss the meter. But the good part about it is when you do hit the meter you are hitting your spot, near or very near where you wanted the ball to end up. When hitting pause you can observe each pitch and it will tell you near or very near or not.

Fireworks display after hometown HR are only if the team actually does it in real life (i.e. there wouldn't be any for the New York Yankees.

GRAPHICS

Now that I've seen the game again I conclude that they are close in comparison to last year's graphics. I'm used to ONLINE which isn't nearly as good as OFFLINE graphics. However, this isn't a bad thing as far as I'm concerned. It's still more immersive to me this year due to the LIGHTING. It's easier to see the ball too. The animations are so smooth and there are many many new ones. I think the game is drop dead gorgeous.

BROADCAST VIEW

This is for you to decide. You may or may not like it. Your choice. There were a couple times where we should of made plays on balls but for the most part its not too difficult and after some more practice maybe we both would of made those plays.

There were new stat overlays that I hadn't seen before. I really couldn't tell you what any one of them were because for the most part we sped through those. I do recall one about about average mph for both starting pitchers.

AUDIO

The last day of CES wasn't so busy and therefore we could hear it better this time as you'll see in the videos. The crowd is WAY more lively for the home team.

OTHER THINGS

The sign in MIN will be animated when the game is released. I know someone asked that question.

Saw the 3D version of the game and as Rman said it is pretty cool. Have no idea if it will play on current PS3 with firmware.

The video recorder I was using is 720P. Have no idea why the contrast was blooming in these videos. The color therefore isn't as good as my previously posted videos.

Videos ( Keep checking back here as video links will be posted here. Some are lengthy so the videos probably won't show up for at least another 40 minutes)

1. Rman/Chris playing (Throwing strikes purposely):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFb-XssPbn0
2. Daylight Transition #1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYVmHpM0PBg
3. Daylight Transition #2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwjrivvGp_w
5. HR Derby #1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q40UCtcvI5U
6. HR Derby #2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdDdnVEWorY
7. Pitching Knockout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbXcLf_HkPY
8. Pitching Training/Simulation Game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz-YdybNF6g

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Member Comments
# 301 Blzer @ 01/13/10 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wsu_gb23
how about have the fielder's name show up and fade after the user controls him?
Yikes, I'll stick to the indicator under the player. Whenever 2K does that name crap on default, I'm pretty much obliged to turn it off.
 
# 302 swaldo @ 01/13/10 02:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by countryboy
so you felt that homeruns in '09 were anti-climatic and in an effort to fix that problem, you want a special homerun camera to take effect when a homerun is hit?
Take a look at the footage in this video from All Star Baseball 2005 and tell me your thoughts. I challenge anyone to provide LIVE ACTION footage of a home run from The Show which looks better than this. This is what Blzer was referring to and Ball Flight Lovers rejoice...

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/a...005-mini-games

In regards to a "custom camera" for home runs, the only thing I'd add is that it would also activate during any deep hit ball. That way there is some suspense on whether or not the ball is going out of the park. Part of the fun of watching a home is yelling "Holy Moses, is it? C'mon, get out...get out of here...gone!!!
 
# 303 Blzer @ 01/13/10 02:54 PM
See, as for gameplay, I would much prefer nothing but a broadcast camera angle (that is, right behind the plate). Broadcast for a ground ball, pop up, home run, you name it. If it's a no-doubter, though, that would be cool if the broadcast camera guy focused on the ball and gave little attention to the fielders, kind of like in the replays from 09 (only not continually zooming in so close like they do). If they had that for Home Run Derby, all would be honky-dory and smooth-sailing on my end of the connection.

EDIT: Oh, and looking at the video you posted, one thing I absolutely hated about ASB 2005 is they decided to enlarge the ball to more easily see it when it flies in the air. My favorite of the games was ASB 2003, but it had an issue of not too many balls being hit to right field, mostly to left field. ASB 2005 was also the only one that had the big "HOME RUN" thing as well, which I never liked.
 
# 304 Skyboxer @ 01/13/10 02:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wsu_gb23
how about have the fielder's name show up and fade after the user controls him?
That's a reasonable option. Better than it staying on the whole time. Options are always better than no options.
 
# 305 Skyboxer @ 01/13/10 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blzer
See, as for gameplay, I would much prefer nothing but a broadcast camera angle (that is, right behind the plate). Broadcast for a ground ball, pop up, home run, you name it. If it's a no-doubter, though, that would be cool if the broadcast camera guy focused on the ball and gave little attention to the fielders, kind of like in the replays from 09 (only not continually zooming in so close like they do). If they had that for Home Run Derby, all would be honky-dory and smooth-sailing on my end of the connection.
Agree big time...
 
# 306 countryboy @ 01/13/10 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swaldo
Take a look at the footage in this video from All Star Baseball 2005 and tell me your thoughts. I challenge anyone to provide LIVE ACTION footage of a home run from The Show which looks better than this. This is what Blzer was referring to and Ball Flight Lovers rejoice...

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/a...005-mini-games

In regards to a "custom camera" for home runs, the only thing I'd add is that it would also activate during any deep hit ball. That way there is some suspense on whether or not the ball is going out of the park. Part of the fun of watching a home is yelling "Holy Moses, is it? C'mon, get out...get out of here...gone!!!
LOL...I wasn't challenging your idea of having homeruns be more suspenseful, I was caught off guard, confused, by you stating that you felt that homeruns weren't dramatic and then offered up a homerun camera as a solution. I know you're seeking a long strung out debate(by challenging anyone) about this idea, but not everyone is out to "disagree"/"debate" your opinions.
 
# 307 Pared @ 01/13/10 04:21 PM
Yeah, no. Those camera views during a "borderline homerun" wouldn't allow controlling the fielder well at all.

And that's not suspenseful.

Forget all this subjectivity here and copy the angles used in the real home-run derby, including the slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.

Source: ESPN

It's really this simple. And if you disagree with that, you don't like the real broadcast of the HR Derby.
 
# 308 Blzer @ 01/13/10 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pared
Yeah, no. Those camera views during a "borderline homerun" wouldn't allow controlling the fielder well at all.

And that's not suspenseful.

Forget all this subjectivity here and copy the angles used in the real home-run derby, including the slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.

Source: ESPN

It's really this simple. And if you disagree with that, you don't like the real broadcast of the HR Derby.
I agree one thousand percent. No game has yet to replicate this.

Just... no weird squiggly ball trail.
 
# 309 swaldo @ 01/13/10 06:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by countryboy
LOL...I wasn't challenging your idea of having homeruns be more suspenseful, I was caught off guard, confused, by you stating that you felt that homeruns weren't dramatic and then offered up a homerun camera as a solution. I know you're seeking a long strung out debate(by challenging anyone) about this idea, but not everyone is out to "disagree"/"debate" your opinions.
When you offer no opinion and stick me with it comes across as if you think my idea was lame. It's moot anyway because Russell PM'd me stating that camera angle suggestions should be saved for next years wish list.
 
# 310 Shakedowncapo @ 01/13/10 06:03 PM
This is what Pared means by 'slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.'

I love Braun's followthrough swing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=4m16s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuLwF7MdaE#t=7m52s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuLwF7MdaE#t=1m32s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=1m13s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=1m28s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=2m28s

I know that's a lot of examples..But I want you guys to see get the picture LOL.
 
# 311 texbuk84 @ 01/13/10 06:43 PM
count me in
 
# 312 Blzer @ 01/13/10 06:51 PM
Yep, I sort of like the camera delay thing as well. Like a major league player, it sort of makes you get a feel of your hit before you get out of the box, but you don't yet exactly know what's going to happen. So eventually, you'll get a "feel" of those no-doubters when you hit them, and you'll raise your arms in the air before the camera even transitions, and as the ball goes out, it becomes a confirmation of your celebration.

That kind of stuff feels exciting, all in about three-tenths of a second.
 
# 313 countryboy @ 01/13/10 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swaldo
When you offer no opinion and stick me with it comes across as if you think my idea was lame. It's moot anyway because Russell PM'd me stating that camera angle suggestions should be saved for next years wish list.
= confused

I asked you a question and put behind it because I was confused as to your solution to your problem.

If I thought your opinion was lame I would've let you know.
 
# 314 BatsareBugs @ 01/13/10 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottdau
What is the smilies for something lame?


oh wait, that's not it.

 
# 315 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/13/10 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottdau
What is the smilies for something lame?
 
# 316 beau21 @ 01/13/10 08:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakedowncapo
This is what Pared means by 'slight delay in camera angle transition from batter to ball-flight.'

I love Braun's followthrough swing here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=4m16s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuLwF7MdaE#t=7m52s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcuLwF7MdaE#t=1m32s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=1m13s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=1m28s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJyvXIbJl9M#t=2m28s

I know that's a lot of examples..But I want you guys to see get the picture LOL.
Yes, please!

 
# 317 ODogg @ 01/13/10 08:15 PM
All I want is for online to be lag-free and allow us to use the pitcher cam online and I will be happy as a clam!!
 
# 318 EnigmaNemesis @ 01/13/10 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ODogg
All I want is for online to be lag-free and allow us to use the pitcher cam online and I will be happy as a clam!!

No pitcher cam online this year, sadly.
 
# 319 PhantomPain @ 01/13/10 08:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by swaldo
When you offer no opinion and stick me with it comes across as if you think my idea was lame. It's moot anyway because Russell PM'd me stating that camera angle suggestions should be saved for next years wish list.
So to clarify, and put to rest the guessing, are you saying that Russell is saying that what we saw for the HR Derby is what we get? There are no other angles for this year besides the low/medium/high?

I said before and I will say it again, it won't phase me one bit if this is the case. But you made a comment and I wanted to see if you could clarify so everyone can know the case and move on.

If all he said was that we should put in our request for some of the cooler camera angles in the Wishlist thread, then that really doesn't answer the million dollar question (ok $10,000 question). But I am curious if he clarified anything with you in the PM.
 
# 320 swaldo @ 01/13/10 09:15 PM
I had sent him the link to the All Star Baseball 2005 Home Run Derby video (which I posted earlier) in case he's not keeping up with this thread. His response was that I should save it for next years wish list thread. The current status of the camera angles are unknown, and if there will be further tweaks or changes on their part is also unknown.

Sounds to me like they are satisfied with what they have in place for this years version, but that's just a guess.
 


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