Madden 2010 News Post

Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

10:32 PM - October 16, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the Madden NFL 10 blog, which talks about the preliminary details of the 2nd title update.

Quote:


	"In this second title update we focused on some of the more debated topics from our loyal and passionate fan base. We appreciate all the feedback so please keep it coming! In this update you will be happy to hear that we have tuned our Flat Zone assignments to cover the flats more effectively. Defenders will not chuck a WR if another receiver is running a route towards their zone. This will help the defender be in better position to react to a quickly throw flat route and allow him to make a play. The flat zone defenders will also play the ball better if a pass is thrown behind the line of scrimmage as well as taking better pursuit angles after the catch to prevent the ball carrier from being able to get around the corner. This has been one of the top complaints that we have heard about and realized it was definitely something that we needed to address."

Game: Madden NFL 10Reader Score: 7.5/10 - Vote Now
Platform: PS3 / Wii / Xbox 360Votes for game: 76 - View All

Madden NFL 10 Videos

Member Comments

# 441 ODogg @ 11/19/09 10:14 AM

Mine is when people say to when they mean too

# 442 Hova57 @ 11/19/09 10:20 AM

For all intensive purposes,irregardless,of when he say what he meant to say the patch will come out , I could care less how long it takes

# 443 ODogg @ 11/19/09 10:34 AM

It's "intents and purposes"!!

# 444 roadman @ 11/19/09 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamehead


	So here's what I'm wondering: Will everyone here who's frustrated with the fact that a) patches are needed to fix some fairly significant issues, and b) the fact that they're taking so long, remember this in the summer and clamor to include questions about quality assurance if/when EA takes questions about Madden 2011? Inevitably I'm sure EA wants to get this patch done, for among other reasons, so that things calm down a bit and they can begin turning everyone's attention to Madden '11--you know, the traditional "look what we have coming guys!" My hope is that this frustration is not forgotten in the hype of the next game, and that effective quality control PRE-release becomes a legitimate issue for discussion. Not the sexiest thing in the world, but are we not impacted by it well into November? While not probable, I believe this is possible if EA is not given COMPLETE free reign to COMPLETELY dictate the course of those discussions based on public feedback. Of course, they could still choose to ignore those questions or comments because they wouldn't fit into the marketing message and talking points that must be adhered to. And if so, then ce' la vie. IMHO, Madden '10 was a better effort, but not solid. And I'm not even talking new features, because those inevitably come in time. I'm simply talking about releasing a product in August that is tantamount to beta, then announcing to the community that you'll just let them bring to your attention what needs to be fixed, i.e., the "cream rising to the top" comment thrown out there (by yes, Ian). We effectively become paying QA testers, and lnumerous threads appear regarding patches and their status as time goes on. We can debate the merits of patches all we want, but if this is their idea of QA, it is horribly lacking and becomes more prevalent with each release. Do the developers lack the skill set to "get it done"? Given the repeated history with this, I submit these are valid questions regardless of any mods with itchy trigger fingers or fans who (in extreme cases) are the "Bagdad Bobs" of Madden (everything's fine; nothing to see here; everything is under control. Please go back into your homes and be happy with your beta). So, even if you get what you want in this patch, will you be willing to go through it again next year? Or will it be important enough to tell that them that you care about this at the beginning? Or will you care at all then, though you may care now?

You bring up some interesting points, but Madden is not the only sports game that is beta tested. Each sports game I own on NG has at least two patches, one with three. So, are you asking, that we refrain from purchasing all sports games that are run on a yearly cycle? Are you then suggesting that all one year sport titles the developers lack the skill set of "get it done.?"

Also, the Madden community received a patch on 08 in November and people are still purchasing Madden. Maybe people on the net will be able to hold back, but people that don't peruse the net probably won't stop their purchasing plans.

I've been a sim freak(my definition is different than others) of working the sliders to get close to real stats, ie QB's 60% comp %'s, RB's with 4.2 rpa's, shooting % close to real life, etc...... After some serious consideration, I've decided that I just don't have the time to do this anymore. I'm too much of an perfectionist when it comes to getting the stats right. It takes me several months(3-4) to accomplish this to my satisfaction.

I've just decided that this is too time consuming and by the time I finish a season, the next seasonal sports game comes out. I've decided to go back to my childhood era where playing Electronic Football, Talking Sports Football, and Photo-Electric Football we played with our friends for hours and we didn't care if our punters could play the OL, or the college friends playing the early versions of Madden all night long without a care and watching the ambulance drive by. Life was simpler back then and I intend to go back to that "fun factor" instead of worrying myself sick getting the sliders to align like the stars.

I'll still mess around with sliders for the first few weeks and will enjoy patches that accompany the games I play to enhance the game further.

I understand that most of you will want a more realistic experience like you see on Sunday and that is fine because that is what makes the games better. I just realized "Father Time" is catching up with me.

I'll still be a hard core gamer, but not as hard core as in the recent past.

# 445 Articula @ 11/19/09 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamehead


	So here's what I'm wondering: Will everyone here who's frustrated with the fact that a) patches are needed to fix some fairly significant issues, and b) the fact that they're taking so long, remember this in the summer and clamor to include questions about quality assurance if/when EA takes questions about Madden 2011? Inevitably I'm sure EA wants to get this patch done, for among other reasons, so that things calm down a bit and they can begin turning everyone's attention to Madden '11--you know, the traditional "look what we have coming guys!" My hope is that this frustration is not forgotten in the hype of the next game, and that effective quality control PRE-release becomes a legitimate issue for discussion. Not the sexiest thing in the world, but are we not impacted by it well into November? While not probable, I believe this is possible if EA is not given COMPLETE free reign to COMPLETELY dictate the course of those discussions based on public feedback. Of course, they could still choose to ignore those questions or comments because they wouldn't fit into the marketing message and talking points that must be adhered to. And if so, then ce' la vie. IMHO, Madden '10 was a better effort, but not solid. And I'm not even talking new features, because those inevitably come in time. I'm simply talking about releasing a product in August that is tantamount to beta, then announcing to the community that you'll just let them bring to your attention what needs to be fixed, i.e., the "cream rising to the top" comment thrown out there (by yes, Ian). We effectively become paying QA testers, and lnumerous threads appear regarding patches and their status as time goes on. We can debate the merits of patches all we want, but if this is their idea of QA, it is horribly lacking and becomes more prevalent with each release. Do the developers lack the skill set to "get it done"? Given the repeated history with this, I submit these are valid questions regardless of any mods with itchy trigger fingers or fans who (in extreme cases) are the "Bagdad Bobs" of Madden (everything's fine; nothing to see here; everything is under control. Please go back into your homes and be happy with your beta). So, even if you get what you want in this patch, will you be willing to go through it again next year? Or will it be important enough to tell that them that you care about this at the beginning? Or will you care at all then, though you may care now?

Great post and great question to EA.

# 446 jonesha2000 @ 11/19/09 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Moncrief


	I can totally agree here with ProjectSRT. That's one of my major pet peeves because the phrase is usually used in arguments where one person aims to become passive and sarcastically nonchalant all a sudden - in effect, usually ignoring the topic at hand. Which is made all the more annoying when said person exclaims "I could care less!!!" which, as said, only means said person actually cares a whole lot. It's similar to the silly people out there who say "irregardless" and then start a whole rant when they're angry. "Irregardless" isn't even a damn word.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkpkp


	Mine is when people say "For all intensive purposes."

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODogg


	Mine is when people say to when they mean too

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODogg


	It's "intents and purposes"!!

Mine is english teachers on a video game board that cause a thread to go waaaaaaaay off topic.

Flamehead hit the nail on the head...I can say for sure that I have almost reached my boiling point with Madden and the shenanigans....I ditched 2k10 this year because they didn't have their servers running properly at the beginning....maybe it's fixed now but it was so bad last year to the point the servers should have been a top priority this year. I was really turned off when the first patch for Madden broke a lot of things and then we barely heard from the dev team that was killing us with info before the release to hype the game. Before the game came out, the dev team was the best thing since sliced bread and had reached rock star status...once the bugs came out and people started complaining, they tucked their tail and ran and I don't respect that much. You have to be able to take the good with the bad especially when people are PAYING for your product.

# 447 Kodos @ 11/19/09 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hova57


	For all intensive purposes,irregardless,of when he say what he meant to say the patch will come out , I could care less how long it takes

English teachers everywhere are weeping right now.

# 448 jinc1019 @ 11/19/09 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesha2000


	Mine is english teachers on a video game board that cause a thread to go waaaaaaaay off topic. Flamehead hit the nail on the head...I can say for sure that I have almost reached my boiling point with Madden and the shenanigans....I ditched 2k10 this year because they didn't have their servers running properly at the beginning....maybe it's fixed now but it was so bad last year to the point the servers should have been a top priority this year. I was really turned off when the first patch for Madden broke a lot of things and then we barely heard from the dev team that was killing us with info before the release to hype the game. Before the game came out, the dev team was the best thing since sliced bread and had reached rock star status...once the bugs came out and people started complaining, they tucked their tail and ran and I don't respect that much. You have to be able to take the good with the bad especially when people are PAYING for your product.

I agree. Ultimately, we are the customers here and for them to ignore so many of the features we wanted is beyond ridiculous....The only thing this year's Madden and this year's MLB2K prove is that FREE MARKETS work and markets that are altered do not. If you don't like NBA 2k, you can go buy NBA LIVE. If you do not like NHL 10, you can go buy NHL2K. If you don't like MLB2K, you have to go spend $300.00 on a ps3, which is honestly worth it just for MLB 10.....and finally, if you do not like Madden, well too bad....because that's all there is. I doubt very much that EA would do such a poor job if they knew we could all go buy 2K's version of football instead.

# 449 bukktown @ 11/19/09 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.Moncrief


	It's similar to the silly people out there who say "irregardless" and then start a whole rant when they're angry. "Irregardless" isn't even a damn word.

Sure it is. I used to make fun of my dad for saying it and then I looked in the dictionary and it is synonymous with regardless.

# 450 roadman @ 11/19/09 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinc1019


	I agree. Ultimately, we are the customers here and for them to ignore so many of the features we wanted is beyond ridiculous....The only thing this year's Madden and this year's MLB2K prove is that FREE MARKETS work and markets that are altered do not. If you don't like NBA 2k, you can go buy NBA LIVE. If you do not like NHL 10, you can go buy NHL2K. If you don't like MLB2K, you have to go spend $300.00 on a ps3, which is honestly worth it just for MLB 10.....and finally, if you do not like Madden, well too bad....because that's all there is. I doubt very much that EA would do such a poor job if they knew we could all go buy 2K's version of football instead.

I agree with most of this, but for Madden 10, late in 09, the developers came on here to ask members to put together a wish list.

About 90% of what was asked for was implemented into the game. So, I don't think they ignored many of the features that were asked for.

# 451 roadman @ 11/19/09 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTheorenHobbes


	Roadman, I've seen you make this claim before and am just wondering what your basis is. I can think of at least 3 things off the top of my head that didn't make it (in-game saves, custom cam, ball spinning the right way in replays), and I know there were things mentioned in the dev blogs that also didn't make it. Anyways, just curious where you got the 90% figure from.

It was a list that I think Bgamer came up with that I provided previously. Ian also provided a standard list at the end of the wishlist and brought it back out when the game came out.

It was agreed that 90% of what was wished from OS was put into the game.

# 452 roadman @ 11/19/09 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfos81


	Thats really my only REAL gripe. I want to be able to play another NFL game(not outdated) when EA decides to take 3-4months to give us game fixes for what they've admitted to be "game issues". In turn EA would change and they would adapt or be left behind. Thats why I'm so Pro-Euphoria(Backbreaker). Who can argue that competition doesn't bring out the best in CO.'s.

I don't think anyone questions competition brings out the best in everything. I'll leave it at that because this is a Madden forum and would turn this thread off-topic.

# 453 jonesha2000 @ 11/19/09 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkpkp


	Well of course its in the dictionary, it's still not proper english and not a "word" in that sense. Go back to your dictionary and look it up. I guarantee it will say "Non-standard" or something to that effect in the definition. I mean "LOL" is in the dictionary too.... but that doesnt make it a word... Anways we should stop talking about it, we're upsetting jonesha2000.

I just got upset when you begin your last sentence with "Anways" instead of "Anyways" and you are telling others about non-standard words and proper english. At any rate...I'm not upset but I've seen threads get shut down that should have remained open because people were getting too far off topic. That is all I was saying my friend.

# 454 roadman @ 11/19/09 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkpkp


	The putrid MLB 2K series really breaks my heart as a baseball lover. (Who only owns a 360.) Every year for the last 3 years I've spent money on their games only to be dissapointed. (Though the last two years, knowing the "trend" they were on, I bought it used for $30 both times.) Not since MLB 2K5 have I had a decent ball game to play. Freezing, DL lists that dont work, ERA not calculated correctly, Players who were demoted and re-promoted loosing their real life avatar appearance. (David Ortiz turned into a chubby white white guy in my franchise, so did any player who went on a DL stint.) (I wish I was making this up!) And they never fixed any of it! If you think community communication and patch releases are bad here.... You have'nt seen anything untill you've dealt with 2K forums and their games. If whoever is on the dev team for the MLB 2K series still has their jobs, I'll loose all faith in humanity. EDIT: I actually went out and bought a used original Xbox and MVP 2005, for a total of $40 last year after the debacle that was MLB 2k8. And thought maybe just maybe they would get it right with 2K9. But nope.... Still playing MVP '05 with downloaded CAP rosters. Pathetic 2K... seriously.

Tell me about it.

And dfos81, that's the beauty of message boards. You always know what the person is typing means.

/sarcasm

If your patient for that other game, I'm sure you will be rewarded for your patience with a patch from Madden.

# 455 roadman @ 11/19/09 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkpkp


	Nope. I think I remember reading somewhere a roster update was coming out the 20th? Is that true? Maybe they'll come at the same time. Do any roster updates EA puts out have to be "certified" by MS and Sony too? As far as patch notes, I suspect we won't get those untill the actual release of the patch is imminent.

I read the same thing you did about the 20th for a roster update. No, roster updates do not require the certification that MS/Sony requires.

Ian mentioned on Twitter a few days ago that someone is working up a blog on the patch notes.

# 456 mm boost @ 11/19/09 01:40 PM

I prefer warm beans.

# 457 Hova57 @ 11/19/09 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos


	English teachers everywhere are weeping right now.

I'm sure. I was just trying to cheer up a bleek thread.

# 458 nld230 @ 11/19/09 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stux


	2nd patch still hasn't made it in yet? I basically stopped playing the game months ago waiting for it. Hopefully it fixed all the annoying bugs - like half time stat totals of run and pass not adding or yada yada etc.....

If you are referring to passing yards and running yards not equaling total yards, this isn't a bug. KR yards are also included.

# 459 tarantism @ 11/19/09 06:33 PM

Soooo....where is that blog? I am itching to see a complete list of things that made it into the patch.

What are the odds that this gets released tomorrow with the new rosters?

# 460 buttsakk @ 11/19/09 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarantism


	What are the odds that this gets released tomorrow with the new rosters?

1000:1

I would like to see what actually made it into the patch though...

« Previous 1 2…19 20 21 222324 25 26 27 Next »

More Links

Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details