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Madden NFL 10 Blog: 2nd Title Update Preliminary Details

09:32 PM - October 16, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

Check out the Madden NFL 10 blog, which talks about the preliminary details of the 2nd title update.

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	"In this second title update we focused on some of the more debated topics from our loyal and passionate fan base. We appreciate all the feedback so please keep it coming! In this update you will be happy to hear that we have tuned our Flat Zone assignments to cover the flats more effectively. Defenders will not chuck a WR if another receiver is running a route towards their zone. This will help the defender be in better position to react to a quickly throw flat route and allow him to make a play. The flat zone defenders will also play the ball better if a pass is thrown behind the line of scrimmage as well as taking better pursuit angles after the catch to prevent the ball carrier from being able to get around the corner. This has been one of the top complaints that we have heard about and realized it was definitely something that we needed to address."

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# 361 Bellsprout @ 11/17/09 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by barats


	There are anti-trust laws from monopolies forming in the US. How is this not one here? They have a monopoly on NFL games.

I don't think you can monopolize a genre. I think they could monopolize video games by buying up a ton of companies, but I don't think you can monopolize a genre.

Also, the NFL has the right to use it's license however they please. There's nothing illegal about selling the rights to one company over the other.

None of that is to say I wouldn't love a new 2k game, I would. I just don't buy the "it's a monopoly" argument.

# 362 SoxFan01605 @ 11/17/09 12:21 AM

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...14-2009-a.html

This covers a lot of the monopoly discussion.

# 363 bigsmallwood @ 11/17/09 12:41 AM

Week 10 in the NFL and still no 2nd patch......I really don't think this has anything to do with Sony/MS @ this point.....smh......EA......release the title update already or let 2K back in the game so that we may experience the GREAT gridiron once again.

# 364 josh44 @ 11/17/09 05:44 AM

my point wasn't about the size of the patch it was about them actually being released. From what i know the MW2 patches mainly fixing some online stuff. But the main point i was making is that they have released 3 patches. That means they exceeded the free 2 patch limit. Plus they got released practically straight away how does that work?

Maybe it has something to do with it being for online stuff so it doesn't count but i doubt it

# 365 R.Moncrief @ 11/17/09 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Patriot Missile


	Does any one know when their NFL license expires? I wouldn't be surprised if other game developers have been working on something the last few years and as soon as EA loses their rights, some other company releases a game that blows EA out of the water.

Originally, EA Sports and the NFL united for a, I believe, 4-year deal starting in 2005 and ending in 2009. However, in 2008, they agreed on an extention to keep the NFL's likeness in EA's hands until at least Superbowl XLVII (2013).

So those "other game developers" are going to be holding onto their game for the next 4 years and pray that in 2012, EA and NFL don't extend their contract together again 'til say at least 2018 lol.

Again, this isn't stopping any company from developing a FOOTBALL game. Hell, if some football video game developer really cared to make a buck over EA Sports, they could always release the "ultimate football video game" complete with the works and just make up an entire league, players, as well as a backstory for the league. It's almost an easy way out to use the NFL in a football game. The teams and players are already there. The structure is there. No need to be creative. However, creating an entirely new football "world".. that might turn some heads. There is a ball in the other developer's courts. They're just not making a play.

# 366 ForeverYoung @ 11/17/09 07:55 AM

... just read on Twitter, that Ian has no update regarding the 2nd patch.

# 367 RumbleCard @ 11/17/09 09:42 AM

All we have are third party confirmations that the patch is in MS/Sony's hands. Hearsay. Has Ian or any of the actual EA staff said point blank that the patch is in the final approval phase? So far I think all we have as confirmation of this is a mod on a board.

I'm getting the impression that they're still developing the patch and if that's the case its going to be Dec before we see it.

# 368 kenlovin @ 11/17/09 09:44 AM

Dont get me wrong the game is awesome and leaps and bounds over last years but the fact that its not complete, excuse my phrase from the 40's, is whats getting my goat. Im not buying at launch again. Not even going to preorder it, its nov and I havent started my franchise yet. With all the games out now Im not even sure if I want to play it anymore.

# 369 bgdave39 @ 11/17/09 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RumbleCard


	All we have are third party confirmations that the patch is in MS/Sony's hands. Hearsay. Has Ian or any of the actual EA staff said point blank that the patch is in the final approval phase? So far I think all we have as confirmation of this is a mod on a board. I'm getting the impression that they're still developing the patch and if that's the case its going to be Dec before we see it.

Ian Cummings has said that it's in MS hands for certification in late October via his twitter page.

# 370 BroMontana82 @ 11/17/09 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kpkpkp


	I hope the patch didnt fail authorization for some reason.

i have a pretty good feeling there was some sort of problem along the way if it's taking this long...

# 371 Duswim09 @ 11/17/09 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sambf12


	i have a pretty good feeling there was some sort of problem along the way if it's taking this long...

Well that is depressing news....Really the only problem I have with the game now is O-line progression....I should say the only big problem cuz from reading the posts there are obviously a lot. Forgive me if this has been talked about but what about brining back the training a la madden 2003-2007 I believe it was? Do mini drills...this was on PS2 - not the next gen training, which I thought was garbage.

# 372 DonkeyJote @ 11/17/09 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by barats


	There are anti-trust laws from monopolies forming in the US. How is this not one here? They have a monopoly on NFL games.

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605


	http://www.operationsports.com/forum...14-2009-a.html This covers a lot of the monopoly discussion.

I said this in another thread. EA does not have a monopoly. The video game industry is an oligopoly, which is not only legal, it's a major part of our economy. An oligopoly is an industry controlled by a few massive countries, and manner smaller, upstart companies are around, but have a very small share of the industry. Think shoe companies, fast food, beer, soda, etc. EA does not have a monopoly, as they aren't even the top video game software company as far as revenue.

Just because they have exclusive rights to the NFL does not make them a monopoly. That'd be like saying Reebok has a monopoly in sports apparel because they are the only ones that can sell NFL merchandise.

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Originally Posted by rspencer86


	C'mon now, there's no comparison to the types of fixes Infinity Ward has put out for MW2 and what we are expecting for Madden. The MW2 patches have been small, quick fixes for online connectivity, not completely revamping gameplay like the Madden patch will. Still, this Madden patch is LONG overdue.

Here's a comparison that works better. The NCAA 2nd Patch came out on August 24. A month and two days after release. Madden's is currently sitting at 3 months and 3 days, and still no 2nd patch.

# 373 RGiles36 @ 11/17/09 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dfos81


	I say we all wait until Thanksgiving next year before we decide whether or not to buy Madden 11. This will show the NFL and EA that we are fed up w/ this 1 year recycle

^^If I had a dollar for every time I've read similar sentiments in the past 3 years, I could buy the NFL license myself LOL.

But as far as the license and when it expires, I've all but given up hope on that. As much as I'm enjoying M10, my gut tells me that 2K would be producing a superior NFL game at this point. Regardless, the NFL agreed to extend the license coming off the heels of the broken Madden 08. It was then apparent to me that the NFL only cares about the bottom line, not the quality of the game.

So to all those holding your breath on the license, good luck. Myself, I've come to grips with it and don't anticipate seeing a NFL title aside from Madden for quite some time.

# 374 ForeverYoung @ 11/17/09 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bgdave39


	Ian Cummings has said that it's in MS hands for certification in late October via his twitter page.

All I saw is an answer by Ian on a question regarding the patch release date:
"Question 2 - I still don't have any status on the release date of the 2nd title update yet. You guys know the drill..they're unpredictable."

People read it and thought that 'they' must be Sony & MS.
Based on recent statements by Ian I would say that 'they' was a general description for patches.

I guess that the patch was still in EA internal testing in early/mid-November.

# 375 G-Men_in_Mass @ 11/17/09 11:16 AM

Its a shame the 2nd patch didnt come out yet. I have already moved on to MW2, and wont be going back to football. So guess we'll see ya all next year.

# 376 SoxFan01605 @ 11/17/09 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DonkeyJote


	Just because they have exclusive rights to the NFL does not make them a monopoly. That'd be like saying Reebok has a monopoly in sports apparel because they are the only ones that can sell NFL merchandise.

I don't disagree...I only linked the thread discussing the lawsuit because I didn't want to see this one go down that path and likely get locked.

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Originally Posted by dfos81


	Its 2009 and EA is just now introducing gang tackling( pro-tak ) into Madden? They act like this is a special feature

While I understand the lack of frustration with the overall progress (or lack there of) of Madden since they got the exclusive rights, lets be fair.

They aren't "just now" introducing gang tackles. They've had them since Madden 08 (07 for the PS3, I believe). Pro-tak is more than simply gang-tackling...whether one thinks it's a great feature or not is a separate discussion. Of course they advertise it. The Show advertised details that ASB had at one time...doesn't make them any less cool to have now.

# 377 roadman @ 11/17/09 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dfos81


	I read it alot as well. I really didn't feel this way myself 3years ago. I had faith they could give us something better on the Next-gen systems back then. Now its going on 2010 and we are just now getting gang tackling, which is still broken imo. We are waiting until what looks like December before we can get simmed stats corrected? I guess you can say I've changed my tune about Madden over the past 3yrs. Maybe I'm preaching to the choir, but I've never said this about Madden until now.

I'm assuming you were a very patient person when 08 came out because the second patch came out in November as well.

# 378 SoxFan01605 @ 11/17/09 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dfos81


	I don't belive, show me a video of Madden 07 or 08 w/ a gang tackle. I would like to see it. I've owned the PS3 since its launch and I don't recall seeing one. Now if I could start my franchise before Christmas w/o having to start over b/c of simmed stat issues, I may be in a better mood. Thanks for your support in understanding my frustrations.

I'm positive for 08. I said "I believe" for it being in 07, as I'm pretty sure it was introduced for that version since it arrived later than the 360 version. You likely didn't notice because it was poorly implemented (only two man for the most part), but it was definitely there.

EDIT: NM, here's an article discussing the addition to PS3 for 07:

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=6166

And here's a video from 08:

# 379 Herky @ 11/17/09 11:38 AM

I am praying that this patch is outstanding since it's taking so long. I dying to start a franchise.

# 380 SoxFan01605 @ 11/17/09 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dfos81


	My defintion of gang tackling is different. Your right though, they had it.

Well, A LOT of people (me included) had/have a different definition of gang tackling...lol. I agree the implementation has been poor. I actually like pro-tak overall though, and think it's the first solid step towards what we are all looking for in that regard. We'll see, I guess.

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