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Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

05:54 PM - July 10, 2009 by RaychelSnr

It's not surprising that a non-EA football game is generating a bit of intrigue and hype prior to release, but what’s unusual about Black College Football Xperience is that it has garnered some attention for the wrong reasons. Some people are not interested in what the game has to offer on the field, but instead are interested in the title of the game.

In two weeks, Operation Sports will be reviewing Nerjyzed Entertainment's Black College Football Xperience: The Doug Williams Edition for the Xbox 360. Rather than ignore this issue and let it cloud over our review, Operation Sports is here to tackle the issue head-on in this article, so that the review can be solely devoted to what’s coded into the game disc -- instead of what’s written on the game's box.

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# 141 DocHolliday @ 07/15/09 03:35 PM

Fair enough, I honestly never even heard the term before this game.

I don't even really watch college football so I guess I'm just not well informed.

# 142 TracerBullet @ 07/15/09 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Jesus. Its called BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Thats what the media calls it. Thats what NBC calls it when they show the Grambling/Southern game. Thats what ESPN calls it: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3697955. Thats what its called. It would be idiotic to call it anything else. No one calls it HBCU football or any other name. There were no focus groups for the title because no one who is familiar with Black College Football would think the title is controversial. White or Black. I cant believe that this is an 18 page thread. Seriously? Anyone with Google can recognize that MEAC, SWAC and SIAC football is called Black College Football.

Thank You aholbert. It's kinda funny/sad though that if you look at the comments for that article you posted, their board reminds me of this one. I think America needs to be more well informed.

# 143 RyanMoody21 @ 07/15/09 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by grunt


	I am proud that in America after the Civil War there were progressive white and black people that started these institutions to educate freed slaves. This is American history.

Agreed. I must say, what would those who died (on either side) think of this argument.

If you don't know what a HBCU is, then you don't understand the concept of the title. At one point our colleges were segregated, its that simple. The HBCU's continue to keep a tradition (that extends beyond football) alive.

Why people of either color have to make it more than it is to defend or defame it is beyond me. By doing that go stop short of being racist because your simply being ignorant. To be a true racist you should be informed about a situation and make your decision based solely a persons race , sex, gender, or sexual preference.

# 144 slickkill77 @ 07/15/09 08:56 PM

Perhaps I missed something, but why is Xperience spelled wrong?

I have nothing against the title other than that because that just looks stupid.

# 145 strickzilla @ 07/15/09 09:32 PM

i guess you must think the Xgames on ESPN or any of the multitude of "xtreme" products marketed in the us are stupid too. but its simply a marketing tool just like the XFL

# 146 rockchisler @ 07/15/09 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Jesus. Its called BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Thats what the media calls it. Thats what NBC calls it when they show the Grambling/Southern game. Thats what ESPN calls it: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3697955. Thats what its called. It would be idiotic to call it anything else. No one calls it HBCU football or any other name. There were no focus groups for the title because no one who is familiar with Black College Football would think the title is controversial. White or Black. I cant believe that this is an 18 page thread. Seriously? Anyone with Google can recognize that MEAC, SWAC and SIAC football is called Black College Football.

You right aholbert but Some people are just not smart, no matter how much you teach them and show them they just don't get it.

# 147 strickzilla @ 07/15/09 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Jesus. Its called BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Thats what the media calls it. Thats what NBC calls it when they show the Grambling/Southern game. Thats what ESPN calls it: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3697955. Thats what its called. It would be idiotic to call it anything else. No one calls it HBCU football or any other name. There were no focus groups for the title because no one who is familiar with Black College Football would think the title is controversial. White or Black. I cant believe that this is an 18 page thread. Seriously? Anyone with Google can recognize that MEAC, SWAC and SIAC football is called Black College Football.

you know why there is a 18 page thread its cally angry white man syndrome from oxford

Oxford English Dictionary, Oxford University Press, 2006,"angry white male n. (also with capital initials) Polit. (orig. and chiefly U.S.) a (usually working-class) white man with-right wing or reactionary views (typically including opposition to liberal anti-discriminatory policies), esp. viewed as representing an influential class of voter"

just as a lot of blacks in the 80's and 90's were quick to use the race card whites are quick to play the reverse discrimination card. anytime blacks try to assert hemseves here comes the angry white male saying THEY are being repressed. its very common especially online its easy to say things you truly feel behind a monitor.

i wouldnt say they are all racist but they have issues. issues thinking that things are equal and they surely are not

# 148 HMcCoy @ 07/16/09 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	No offense, DH but your opinion is backed by anything. Football involving those schools is called Black College Football. There is no controversy and no intent by the developers. Like I said anyone who is familar with football at those schools knows its called BCF.

If it offends, shouldn't that matter? And if not, why not?

I may be alone, but I hate hypocrisy more than I hate racism. While Pikes views are a bit myopic, I can agree that political correctness is very one-sided. No one person or group should have the end-all opinon on what is offensive, IMO. I certainly don't have a problem with the term HBCU, but to simply dismiss others feelings on the matter is just wrong.

It seems to me the dissenters seem to be more upset with the perceived hypocrisy vs. being genuinely offended by the label though, which is a completely different animal...there are hypersensitive types on both sides. Angry white man and angry black man indeed. But even though a certain poster really is playing the victim card by choosing to focus just on Rockchislers comments while ignoring the 7 or 8 other excellent responses to his posts...we really should be able to discuss this without name-calling and cheapshots.

# 149 aholbert32 @ 07/16/09 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HMcCoy


	If it offends, shouldn't that matter? And if not, why not? I may be alone, but I hate hypocrisy more than I hate racism. While Pikes views are a bit myopic, I can agree that political correctness is very one-sided. No one person or group should have the end-all opinon on what is offensive, IMO. I certainly don't have a problem with the term HBCU, but to simply dismiss others feelings on the matter is just wrong.

The has to be a reason to be offended and once you read the article or do a google search about the subject...you shouldnt be offended anymore. Also the "If NCAA was called White College Football, everyone would be screaming racist" argument is BS and shows how little people here now about the Black community. One, if the game was made in the 50-60's, it would have been called "White College Football" because there wasnt an single entity that goverened all white colleges back then. If there was one entity that governed the SIAC, SWAC and MEAC, they would name the game after that. But there isnt.

Two, I went to an HBCU (Clark Atlanta) and you know what we call Georgia and Georgia Tech.....white schools. Why? Because the majority of people who attend the school are white. Nobody gets offended about those labels.

The process should be simple. I can understand getting offended if you are misinformed. But once you get the information the article and several posters have given you....you shouldnt be offended anymore.

# 150 Pared @ 07/16/09 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	The has to be a reason to be offended and once you read the article or do a google search about the subject...you shouldnt be offended anymore. Also the "If NCAA was called White College Football, everyone would be screaming racist" argument is BS and shows how little people here now about the Black community. One, if the game was made in the 50-60's, it would have been called "White College Football" because there wasnt an single entity that goverened all white colleges back then. If there was one entity that governed the SIAC, SWAC and MEAC, they would name the game after that. But there isnt. Two, I went to an HBCU (Clark Atlanta) and you know what we call Georgia and Georgia Tech.....white schools. Why? Because the majority of people who attend the school are white. Nobody gets offended about those labels. The process should be simple. I can understand getting offended if you are misinformed. But once you get the information the article and several posters have given you....you shouldnt be offended anymore.

Why can't someone be offended? Honestly, a lot of what people are arguing are issues rooted more deeply than the fact they decided to name this game what it is.

I've met individuals who hate the fact that all those schools are labeled as such. There's always this cry of equality in this country yet labeling an institution in the eyes of segregation continues to be passed over, even today?

Personally, I think there's a bit of hypocrisy at times. Everyone gets offended when it is convenient for them, it seems.

# 151 aholbert32 @ 07/16/09 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Why can't someone be offended? Honestly, a lot of what people are arguing are issues rooted more deeply than the fact they decided to name this game what it is. I've met individuals who hate the fact that all those schools are labeled as such. There's always this cry of equality in this country yet labeling an institution in the eyes of segregation continues to be passed over, even today? Personally, I think there's a bit of hypocrisy at times. Everyone gets offended when it is convenient for them, it seems.

Why would be offended once when you know why the label exists? Most HBCU's are 95% or more black so its not politically incorrect to call them Black Colleges. Liberty University and Orel Roberts University are 100% Christian and no one gets offended when they are called "christian schools." Why? Because thats what they are. So if they are "Black Colleges" whats wrong a game that features those schools "Black College Football"

Also the developers are trying to sell games. Its simple name recognition. Calling it HBCU Football doesnt work because no one who follows those schools calls it that. Cant call it Division 2 football because some of those teams are Division 3 teams. What looks better on a cover "Black College Football" or "SIAC, MEAC, SWAC Football". It has nothing to do with controversy. Its simple marketing.

Also why would non blacks be offended by this? Honestly, I havent met one black person who is offended by the labeling of an HBCU. I have a family full of people who attended HBCUs and no one here is offended by someone calling it a "black school."

It has NOTHING to do with equality. Non blacks are admitted into HBCU's (most of them receive minority scholarships when they attend.) Blacks attend primarily white schools. The label is primarily focused on the history of the school and the label is something I'm proud of. My school (Clark Atlanta) is different than Georgia Tech or Georgia and I dont have a problem recognizing that. Clark's history, mission statement, culture and student population are different than those schools. I dont want my school lumped in with every school in GA. My school is different.

# 152 Pared @ 07/16/09 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Why would be offended once when you know why the label exists? Most HBCU's are 95% or more black so its not politically incorrect to call them Black Colleges. Liberty University and Orel Roberts University are 100% Christian and no one gets offended when they are called "christian schools." Why? Because thats what they are. So if they are "Black Colleges" whats wrong a game that features those schools "Black College Football" Also the developers are trying to sell games. Its simple name recognition. Calling it HBCU Football doesnt work because no one who follows those schools calls it that. Cant call it Division 2 football because some of those teams are Division 3 teams. What looks better on a cover "Black College Football" or "SIAC, MEAC, SWAC Football". It has nothing to do with controversy. Its simple marketing. Also why would non blacks be offended by this? Honestly, I havent met one black person who is offended by the labeling of an HBCU. I have a family full of people who attended HBCUs and no one here is offended by someone calling it a "black school." It has NOTHING to do with equality. Non blacks are admitted into HBCU's (most of them receive minority scholarships when they attend.) Blacks attend primarily white schools. The label is primarily focused on the history of the school and the label is something I'm proud of. My school (Clark Atlanta) is different than Georgia Tech or Georgia and I dont have a problem recognizing that. Clark's history, mission statement, culture and student population are different than those schools. I dont want my school lumped in with every school in GA. My school is different.

My comment was more so directed at the schools labeling themselves as such and how individuals cry "racism" or "politically incorrect" when it's convenient for them than the fact they labeled the game as such. People want to be viewed as individuals, not "black" individuals, so why label a school as such? Your Christian example, while a good one, is about a religious background that encompasses individuals of a similar belief... not exactly on par with a "black" school. Similar to a trade school, you are taught the beliefs of the religion and to practice it in life... similar, yet different enough to point out.

But that's beyond the scope of this thread, so I digress.

# 153 Pared @ 07/16/09 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by P2K


	How in the holy hell can this country tell black people that they are the ones keeping racism alive these days? Meanwhile, one of the hot issues in my area is that some black and Hispanic campers from North Philly were told they weren't allowed back to a predominantly white swim club in Huntingdon Valley, PA.

Not sure what that has to do with these schools labeling themselves as such, or even my point, but again, I digress.

# 154 Pared @ 07/16/09 11:44 AM

Individuals, grunt, not the schools.

PM me for more. Again, it's beyond the scope of this thread and don't want to get it sidetracked again.

# 155 aholbert32 @ 07/16/09 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	My comment was more so directed at the schools labeling themselves as such and how individuals cry "racism" or "politically incorrect" when it's convenient for them than the fact they labeled the game as such. People want to be viewed as individuals, not "black" individuals, so why label a school as such? Your Christian example, while a good one, is about a religious background that encompasses individuals of a similar belief... not exactly on par with a "black" school. Similar to a trade school, you are taught the beliefs of the religion and to practice it in life... similar, yet different enough to point out. But that's beyond the scope of this thread, so I digress.

Actually schools like Liberty and Orel Roberts arent schools that teach you the beliefs of the religion and how to practice it. They are schools like any other college. The only difference is the majority of people who attend those schools are of the christian faith and came to the school because of its history and conservative lifestyle culture. Most people attend black schools for the same reason...because of the school's culture and history.

Labeling an institution "Black" doesnt mean that it cant observe, comment or complain about racism or political correctness. The schools never complain about the term HBCU or Black College. That is the school's identity and I see nothing wrong with labeling it as such. The term HBCU's or Black College isnt racist so labeling a school that doesnt preclude someone from complaing about racism.

The term "HBCU" or Black College doesnt exclude anyone once you dig deeper than the label. The label references the history and also the culture of the school. At Liberty, there are more religious and christian courses than at most schools because they curriculum and culture are based in chrsitianity and their students are interested in those. At Clark, there are more courses geared toward african americans (AA history etc.) because its students are more in those courses.

# 156 Pared @ 07/16/09 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Actually schools like Liberty and Orel Roberts arent schools that teach you the beliefs of the religion and how to practice it. They are schools like any other college. The only difference is the majority of people who attend those schools are of the christian faith and came to the school because of its history and conservative lifestyle culture. Most people attend black schools for the same reason...because of the school's culture and history.

Oral Roberts has a seminary! St. Johns does the same exact thing, a Catholic school here in Queens.

While they may not be plain as day or advertised, these schools do push their religious beliefs within the confines of their doors. And it doesn't matter your religious beliefs as well.

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Originally Posted by P2K


	Those schools are landmarks of African American history. Symbols of pride. And yet, some "individuals" think it is wrong to hold onto that history? Huh??

You're arguing a point that was never made, which was expected. No point in discussing anything with you, something I've figured out pretty easily while being at OS.

I PMed grunt. He knows exactly what I'm talking about, and once again, it's beyond the scope of this thread.

# 157 mvb34 @ 07/16/09 01:06 PM

lol at this thread.. I guess we can't have black history no more..

# 158 Pared @ 07/16/09 01:09 PM

I pm'ed Grunt, because again, it's beyond the scope of this thread.

Not sure why I have to reiterate that to you. Actually, it shouldn't be that shocking.

# 159 mvb34 @ 07/16/09 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	I pm'ed Grunt, because again, it's beyond the scope of this thread. Not sure why I have to reiterate that to you. Actually, it shouldn't be that shocking.

PM'ed me like to know what talking back..

# 160 aholbert32 @ 07/16/09 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Oral Roberts has a seminary! St. Johns does the same exact thing, a Catholic school here in Queens. While they may not be plain as day or advertised, these schools do push their religious beliefs within the confines of their doors. And it doesn't matter your religious beliefs as well.

Howard, Morehouse and several non-religious schools have a seminaries too. It doesnt mean that they are christian schools.

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