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Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

  05:54 PM - July 10, 2009 by RaychelSnr
It's not surprising that a non-EA football game is generating a bit of intrigue and hype prior to release, but what’s unusual about Black College Football Xperience is that it has garnered some attention for the wrong reasons. Some people are not interested in what the game has to offer on the field, but instead are interested in the title of the game.

In two weeks, Operation Sports will be reviewing Nerjyzed Entertainment's Black College Football Xperience: The Doug Williams Edition for the Xbox 360. Rather than ignore this issue and let it cloud over our review, Operation Sports is here to tackle the issue head-on in this article, so that the review can be solely devoted to what’s coded into the game disc -- instead of what’s written on the game's box.

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# 121 Darkeus @ 07/13/09 05:51 PM


This is a sad thread. The game is not racist, let's start that off real quick. The name in no way promotes the game in a racist fashion and it does seem that some people who have posted in this thread need to educate themselves. If I see one more reference to "Why isn't there any Historically White College Game" I am going to scream! Until America was desegregated, ALMOST ALL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THE USA WERE HISTORICALLY WHITE. The HBCU were created to give blacks an opportunity to gain an education because they had NO options at any other school at that time. Please drop this strawman argument because it is a very ignorant opinion.

Okay, with that said, the game looks like it might be decent and it is a refreshing alternative to the monopoly that EA has on the football world when concerning video games. The fact that it is also done with the Unreal engine is also fascinating and I look forward to see how it works used in this way. Worth a rental no doubt. I'll give any football video game its fair shake. I hope this does well.
 
# 122 BOSsTOwN @ 07/13/09 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeDog10
The game actually looks decent, though I probably won't pick it up because NCAA and Madden will take up enough of my game playing time.

I really don't care for the title though - not because I think it's racist, but because they're really only marketing the game to black people. Obviously this article was informative and explained what the game is all about, but for the average person that doesn't read OS and sees this game in the store - especially if they aren't black - it's probably not going to generate any interest for them to want to buy it. Am I wrong?

Anyway, I will wait to see some impressions of this game and if I like what I see, I may rent it. But, I have a hard time getting into any sports games that don't have a dynasty option.
They arent marketting it to black poeple. its being marketted to people that attended an HBCU.
 
# 123 CaptainZombie @ 07/13/09 07:31 PM
I have read almost this entire thread and the sad thing is that nobody cares to talk about the gameplay. Who cares if this game is loaded with white or black people. Granted I understand that the original article talks about the history. To have another decent football game release is what's also important here.
 
# 124 sneezor01 @ 07/13/09 08:16 PM
*disclaimer* Not to bash anyone but I cant help but my head about those who say that this is just a niche game. I would respectfully disagree b/c if you say that the game is a niche game then you are saying that the teams that it represents are niche teams meaning that the athletes only cater to a very small and select audience, which I do not believe. In essence you are saying that others who cover the broad sport of football would not be interested in the players on the teams. We all know that this could not be farther from the truth, think about how many scouts,GMs, and coaches watch and draft guys from these very schools. My point is don't call this a niche game b/c you haven't heard about it, seen it for yourself, or just don't like the product. Remember just b/c you dont support the product doesn't mean that others shouldn't or won't.
 
# 125 strickzilla @ 07/13/09 11:24 PM
sneezor01......

well lest look at howmany players from HBCU's were drafted last year (2009 a good year) a WHOPPING 3 out of 256 draft picks and over 40 HBCU's . thats the same amount for the university of hawaii a small school i dare say.

and when was the last time you saw 2 HBCU's on espn? HBCU's are no longer in EA's NCAA series so how is it not a niche?

where else are he schools represented in a video game?
 
# 126 strickzilla @ 07/13/09 11:48 PM
pike....

i have seen you post repetadly and you have stated your thoughts clearly. however and this is the irony you fail to grasp the "black" experiance college football or oherwise.


to touch upon the while HWC thing the reason why you will never hear it because those school are (or at least should be) ashamed of that history. hey want to forge i and move on, for 1 reason $$$$$$ scholls like Teaxs and Ole Miss who have been mentioned repeatedly in this thread have Black alumni BOOSTERS who donate MILLIONS to remind those boosers of that pastt would e folly

wih HBCU's the idea is to REMIND Blacks of a time when as a people getting an education was a struggle a near impossibility, it is to remind them of the struggle that their forefathers went thru so hat they now can not only go to HBCUs but harvard or yale

is this what whie america wants to see? no. because it can be viewed as black people reminding whites of the evils commited by past generations.


to another point the HWC have black players it doesnt change he past just as HBCU's have white players it doesn change the fact that HBCUs are still needed. why do you ask? because a lot of blacks come from broken homes, no fathers typically, an HBCU is an opportunity to see dozens of positive male role models in he Black community that a lot of young Black men and women dont see everyday

i applaud you for standing your ground however with that steadfastness come a form of intolerance. you have your beliefs and you hold to them. as Malcom X said " I have more respect for a man who tells me where he stands, even if he is wrong"
 
# 127 TracerBullet @ 07/13/09 11:50 PM
HBCUs are a part of ESPN. They are shown regularly on ESPN U and there is one Classic that is shown on ESPN pretty much every year (the SWAC/MEAC classic i believe). In fact this year it's Grambling St. vs. South Carolina St. on the 6th of Sept. this year.
 
# 128 Wjkporter @ 07/14/09 12:08 AM
May 1992 - Grambling St. O' Grambling dear Grambling....
 
# 129 sneezor01 @ 07/14/09 01:36 AM
first of all while I humbly respect your opinion, not just HBCU's were left out of NCAA 10 ALL Non -FBS schools were left off and only on the next gen not the old gen. second I said they watch and draft meaning that every year there are more HBCU players getting FA deals than drafted b/c teams know that a player from a HBCU or ANY small school for that matter will not get the big agent or start off demanding the "prim a Donna" treatment. do you realize that in 2008 or 9 Hampton University had more players (5) invited to the National Scouting Combine in Indy than the "U" (Univ of Miami) teams know that they can get small school players for "cheap". finally let me give you a quick story on a very successful NFL player. There was this guy who once held the single season sack record for both 1A and 1AA. during the offseason the Browns told him that he was their guy, they sent him all kinda "swag" and when the draft rolled around they missed out on this multi- probowl player. instead the Colts picked him up in the 6th round I think and he soon became a starter and Superbowl winner. The Browns figured that they could just sign him to an FA deal and get him for cheap. needless to say that the plan backfired. The players name was Robert Mathis.
 
# 130 sneezor01 @ 07/14/09 01:38 AM
amend: from Alabama A&M
 
# 131 nctiger @ 07/14/09 10:00 AM
Well, I will say one thing about the gameplay. They have the ball physics down. NCAA can't even make the ball spin in the correct direction.
 
# 132 muggins @ 07/14/09 02:01 PM
I might actually give this game a shot when it comes down in price. It looks pretty cool. Is there something like a story mode associated with it?
 
# 133 strickzilla @ 07/14/09 08:58 PM
sneezor01....

perhaps you have missed my point there is no argument that there is talent at HBCU's. the point is that i is a niche market to be catered to. HBCU's by definition are a niche

From webster niche, a specialized market

i would say schools that HISTORICALLY were the only place that Blacks could get an education is special and these schools while admitting everyone still honor the history of those times

and economics 101

"niche market is the subset of the market on which a specific product is focusing on; Therefore the market niche defines the specific product features aimed at satisfying specific market needs,"

to wit the market would be the FBS II schools eliminated from NCAA the sub market are the HBCU's

to give maybe a less startling example say they made a football game about just he Milliary fooball schools experience Army, Navy and air force. and say it had mini games that you had to do drills like practice hand o hand combat or obstacle course or do push ups if you make a bad play LOL. but i hope i made the analogy clear

Or if they had a christian football experience for catholic schools and you had to like sing psalms at halftime. ok that one was kind of silly but you get he drift. any subculture of a culture is a niche buy definition.
 
# 134 1WEiRDguy @ 07/15/09 12:16 PM
Well i'll just add my two cents...I've read every single page and there were some very good posts from everyone...while i wont get too much into what my feelings are about race, i read one of the posts that said something to the effect that why is there a black guy on the cover blah blah blah (paraphrasing), but you do realize that is Doug Williams when he was at Grambling right?

Anyway, I will support this game, for one, the price is 30 bucks i think. That is a very fair price for a first time developer. I think the graphics are ok and their presentation really seems to be on point. I think they got most if not all of the stadiums right on the first try. How many years did it take EA to do that? Now I know EA does a lot more teams than this developer, but they also have a bigger budget too so....

I was looking at the simple eye candy things that no one seems to be talking about...like TRUE field degradation. The jerseys acutally had mud on them and not some blotches or spots that are supposed to represent mud. Also, in the clip where they show the New Orleans Superdome for the Bayou Classic, that seemed almost perfect. The flashing cameras and everything. Thats really how that game is in real life...

I think the player models are also pretty decent. OL look like OL and not beefed up DBs...The tackle animations look pretty good as well...keep in mind this is their first Football game folks...the halftime show is on point. Now if there was a feature to brag on, this would be one. And lastly, the Legacy Museum looks like it could have some big potential...

so instead of focusing on what the name of the game is, i will just focus on another option of college fb to play. Who knows, maybe if things go well with them, they can start to develop some really interesting football games.
 
# 135 DocHolliday @ 07/15/09 02:43 PM
When i first saw this game I thought it was a joke.

My first thought was, that's pretty wack and kinda dumb, but now I just dont care either way cause there is no way this game does well.
 
# 136 DocHolliday @ 07/15/09 02:57 PM
Reading more into the thread, it seems to me if ANYONE is in the wrong here it is the developers of the game. They could have used a different name that would have paid respect to HCBU's without making it seem very tilted towards the black folk.

But they didn't, and it seems to me that they did this to stir up a bit of controversy and get some free ad time for the game on sites like this and other mediums.

I will not buy it based purely on them using race as a pawn for there game.
 
# 137 DocHolliday @ 07/15/09 03:13 PM
Yea no doubt Grunt my man, but it seems in my opinion they didn't do this entirely to show respect to HBCU's, and they did it partly to get some press. You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity.

In focus groups they must have seen this coming and decided that, sure, why not?

I dunno maybe they did it tooo bring education to people about HBCU's but if thats the case its a strange medium to use for education.
 
# 138 aholbert32 @ 07/15/09 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday
Yea no doubt Grunt my man, but it seems in my opinion they didn't do this entirely to show respect to HBCU's, and they did it partly to get some press. You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity.

In focus groups they must have seen this coming and decided that, sure, why not?

I dunno maybe they did it tooo bring education to people about HBCU's but if thats the case its a strange medium to use for education.

Jesus. Its called BLACK COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Thats what the media calls it. Thats what NBC calls it when they show the Grambling/Southern game. Thats what ESPN calls it: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3697955. Thats what its called.

It would be idiotic to call it anything else. No one calls it HBCU football or any other name. There were no focus groups for the title because no one who is familiar with Black College Football would think the title is controversial. White or Black.

I cant believe that this is an 18 page thread. Seriously? Anyone with Google can recognize that MEAC, SWAC and SIAC football is called Black College Football.
 
# 139 DocHolliday @ 07/15/09 03:28 PM
hay man you guys made the thread not me.

its my opinion.
 
# 140 aholbert32 @ 07/15/09 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday
hay man you guys made the thread not me.

its my opinion.

No offense, DH but your opinion is backed by anything. Football involving those schools is called Black College Football. There is no controversy and no intent by the developers. Like I said anyone who is familar with football at those schools knows its called BCF.
 


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