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Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

  05:54 PM - July 10, 2009 by RaychelSnr
It's not surprising that a non-EA football game is generating a bit of intrigue and hype prior to release, but what’s unusual about Black College Football Xperience is that it has garnered some attention for the wrong reasons. Some people are not interested in what the game has to offer on the field, but instead are interested in the title of the game.

In two weeks, Operation Sports will be reviewing Nerjyzed Entertainment's Black College Football Xperience: The Doug Williams Edition for the Xbox 360. Rather than ignore this issue and let it cloud over our review, Operation Sports is here to tackle the issue head-on in this article, so that the review can be solely devoted to what’s coded into the game disc -- instead of what’s written on the game's box.

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# 41 SHO @ 07/11/09 04:22 AM
I don't know if I should continue the discussion the way the thread has turned because I'm really fired up about this, but it is against TOS so I guess I'll sit this one out...
 
# 42 TracerBullet @ 07/11/09 04:26 AM
Yeah I decided to do that too Noble. I just don't think its possible to help some people understand. But oh well.

Anywho, still hoping this game is pretty good at least. Doesn't have to be perfect by any means. Just playable.
 
# 43 bigsmallwood @ 07/11/09 04:30 AM
Great Article!!!! Hampton University 03' Grad!!!!!! I wish this came out for the PS3!!!!!
 
# 44 rockchisler @ 07/11/09 04:37 AM
shout out to Central state university class of 99...
 
# 45 WilliamJHolla42 @ 07/11/09 10:27 AM
I'm not often moved to comment, but it seems that the construct of racism always motivates one to speak. The history of black and white in this country will always lead to conflict if either is used to describe a product, service, activity or the like. There is much hostility between these two groups and it should be expected that it would generate this kind of spirited debate.

The bottom line is this... Black College Football is a niche product aimed at a specific fanbase. If you wish to not participate in making this game a success, don't. But to aimlessly debate the merits of the moniker these schools have gained over time is foolish. They are "HISTORICALLY BLACK colleges and universities." Not, "CURRENTLY BLACK colleges and universities." Meaning, over the course of recent history, these schools have catered to the black community. For those of you challenging the terms relevance, were any of these schools on your application list? This isn't about race or racism, it's about videogames...

So to riff the great Allen Iverson... We talkin' bout race... not videogames, but race. Race... Race? We talkin' bout racism, not videogames, but racism... How we gon' make videogames better by focusin' on race?
 
# 46 trick02 @ 07/11/09 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by stefangrey
We already have Historically White College Football. It's called NCAA 10.

HBCUs may not technically segregate, but then neither does the Philadelphia High School for Girls. But what kind of looks are you going to get if your a guy and it says you graduated from Girls High? The Philadelphia Central High school for Boys had to change it's name (to just CHS) when girls were allowed in. So if you run a HBCU and you allow all races, then stop calling it a HBCU.

It's sad, but a lot of the above guys are right, it IS racist because the opposite scenario would be racist. I can't create Ivory Magazine. I can't start the WET. I can't found the NAAWP. I can't even sue because affirmative action allows a less qualified minority get ahead of me because of race. And I can't wear a "Yes We Can" or "My President is White" T-Shirt if teh next president is a white guy.

Oh, and this isn't the first game in the series. You could get the PC game last year if you sent away with some UPCs from Famous Amos cookies.
+1
 
# 47 bup @ 07/11/09 11:26 AM
those who think this game is racist then you're very wrong. Doug Williams didn't make this game because it's ''black.'' He just wants people to see and feel the meaning of black college football, since EA SPORTS's NCAA FOOTBALL took out black teams such as Southern Jaguars and Grambling Tigers; but just the whole entire division 2 colleges.
 
# 48 raz77 @ 07/11/09 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pike
No, at this point in history you are not. No one attending Grambling or UAPB has been excluded from anywhere else. And true, no is being excluded from these schools by any rule or regulation.

But it is common sense that, all other things being equal (academics for instance)---if I'm a white person, I'm not going to be nearly as comfortable going somewhere that designates itself as a "Black" College. And of course then the question is, is that my fault or the school's. I don't know exactly, but I tend to think it's the schools fault, because they are the one introducing this element, not me as the white student.

The same goes for churches. Here in the south, we still have churches they call themselves 'Black' churches. And all over the country, black fraternities do not participate in the Inter-Fraternity or Pan-Hellenic councils of their schools, but rather in their own 'black fraternity' organizations.

Like I said, the list goes on. But the theme is the same: black people have gone from being segregated, to segregating themselves. And I think that is sad--though not entirely their fault as a culture to be sure.

At this point, I simply think it is antiquated to have these labels in a time when we are lead by a black man named Obama.

My whole point in this, is that these schools need to drop the label. It began in an entirely different time and place, and has no more significance now than the Rebel flag does (which has, for years, been mislabled and abused as a symbol of racism--which it is certainly not. Anyone who has truly studied the Civil War knows that racism was a tiny, tiny fraction of the issues which lead to the conflict. The Union did NOT go to war with the South to free the slaves--it was simply a small part of the package that, over time, was crafted into the central theme of the conflict. I will challenge anyone to debate that historical fact. The average white Southerner at the time lived in conditions that, while not as bad as most black people of the time, was still very deplorable and only worsened after the war.)

Well first I never meant at this point in history, I was talking about origins. Which is why I used HWC instead of just White colleges. I don't want to get into a civil war or the an argument on the current state of racism in America, because that's getting pretty far from the focus of the site.
 
# 49 raz77 @ 07/11/09 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pike
Name me one school that is designated as Historically White. Would you accept the title if Ole Miss called itself a historically white school?

Of course not. You'd have all kinds of protests if Ole Miss did that. And for what it is worth, I'd call it just as wrong and unnecessary as I am doing here.

As for the guy calling NCAA "White College Football", that's sad, inaccurate, and wrong. Especially for a game with black men on the cover. And frankly, these schools bend over backwards to attract minority students. You only need to read about the Michigan case if you need proof.
Why would they have needed to designate themselves historically white back then when they were the majority of colleges?
 
# 50 michigan21 @ 07/11/09 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pike
No idea what you are saying there. So basically, you can't answer my question. Fair enough.

So, if Ole Miss designates itself as 'Historically White', you are cool with that? I wouldn't be.
The problem is you don't want to understand what he is saying. Its just typical of some Americans who try to create controversy. Ill take your example of Ole Miss. Governor Ross Barnett stood in the ****ing doorway of your beloved Ole Miss, and denied black Mississippians admission to the college. THIS WAS 1962!!! For well over a couple of centuries most, if not all, colleges were still ALL WHITE. You have a handful of HBU that sprung up after the civil war to, brace yourself, educate black people. If the colleges were not there, the disparities would be extremely bleak today. The fact is that most colleges in history didnt have to say historically white because they were by de facto. Lastly, do yourself a favor and get a magazine from the late 60's early 70's where there is boarding school, or military school ads. Most had to put "open enrollment" because up to that point, they didnt accept blacks. HBCU served a purpose, and still do and this game just celebrates that.
 
# 51 rockchisler @ 07/11/09 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by michigan21
The problem is you don't want to understand what he is saying. Its just typical of some Americans who try to create controversy. Ill take your example of Ole Miss. Governor Ross Barnett stood in the ****ing doorway of your beloved Ole Miss, and denied black Mississippians admission to the college. THIS WAS 1962!!! For well over a couple of centuries most, if not all, colleges were still ALL WHITE. You have a handful of HBU that sprung up after the civil war to, brace yourself, educate black people. If the colleges were not there, the disparities would be extremely bleak today. The fact is that most colleges in history didnt have to say historically white because they were by de facto. Lastly, do yourself a favor and get a magazine from the late 60's early 70's where there is boarding school, or military school ads. Most had to put "open enrollment" because up to that point, they didnt accept blacks. HBCU served a purpose, and still do and this game just celebrates that.
Pike doesnt understand, I'm done, if he was a educated man he would listen and learn..Plus talking about not answering questions, he never said what college he went to....hmmmm
 
# 52 Jukeman @ 07/11/09 01:42 PM
Only if people took time to educate themself SMDH...

How the heck is "historically" outdated????

Historically black colleges....Black colleges....am I the only one who see a difference here????
 
# 53 Jackdog @ 07/11/09 02:01 PM
Well written article, OS. Very well written.

As far as this thread goes I can't say the same. Insults,Politics and Racial talk is a violation of the TOS and for good reason.. There are too many infractions in this thread to mention. It's really hard to believe some of you call yourself adults.
 
# 54 Pared @ 07/11/09 02:33 PM
Thread is being re-opened.

I suggest you guys think twice about what you're posting here before you hit the submit button. Keep it on topic.
 
# 55 Rimfro @ 07/11/09 02:51 PM
@ pared:

I like how you tell us to think twice about posting and to make sure to keep the conversation "on topic", but what do you expect when you write an article about how the title doesn't exclude or elevate one race over the other? Your article is about the topic of race and was only posted to keep this conversation alive. So, from what I can tell, your site is getting the exact response to the article that your site intended. How about trying to keep the topic on sports by not writing articles of this nature in the first place. You knew what you were getting into when you posted this.
 
# 56 Pared @ 07/11/09 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rimfro
@ pared:

I like how you tell us to think twice about posting and to make sure to keep the conversation "on topic", but what do you expect when you write an article about how the title doesn't exclude or elevate one race over the other? Your article is about the topic of race and was only posted to keep this conversation alive. So, from what I can tell, your site is getting the exact response to the article that your site intended. How about trying to keep the topic on sports by not writing articles of this nature in the first place. You knew what you were getting into when you posted this.
You know what, you have a perfectly valid point. I'm glad you posted it.

Comment on the article, the topic but don't ATTACK EACH OTHER. There's absolutely no reason for that.

Does that help?
 
# 57 Whitesox @ 07/11/09 02:54 PM
Guys..it isn't that hard. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Great article OS.
 
# 58 TallyBoi7 @ 07/11/09 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pike
Give me a break.

I don't think I'm the one with the closed mind here. I'm saying that, in this day and age, you don't need schools being designated as a Black College. It's unnecessary, period.
I have to disagree.

I just wished I had seen this topic earlier.
 
# 59 sneezor01 @ 07/11/09 03:19 PM
Listen. It is sad that we have to justify such well written article. Pike (not just picking on you) but I think that it would be best to speak on a situation that you have live through not just what you have heard or what you may think. I too live and grew up within 10mins from UAPB. I went to school there and my wife graduated from UAPB. what you and other may fail to realize is the term "Historical" which contributes to the fact on why the schools exist. You should know that UAPB has quite a few whites that go to their school. ( by you living so close to the school ) so you know that the institution does not segregate or promotes segregation. Also you are standing firm with your OLE MISS reference. but do you know one of the reasons why the school is holding on to it's Nickname. It is b/c they were one of the last schools to admit blacks into their schools, as well as to the civil war reference. I dont think that people should have a problem with the term HBCU when it was describing why it is what it is, especaily when you still have lies in history books saying that Columbus discovered America. How can you discover somewhere that people already lived.
 
# 60 trick02 @ 07/11/09 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rockchisler
Pike doesnt understand, I'm done, if he was a educated man he would listen and learn..Plus talking about not answering questions, he never said what college he went to....hmmmm
LOL i love it. Some one disagrees with you on something that is very contreversial and because of this you decide he is uneducated. Way to add to the topic instead of pick a fight your a real trooper!!
 


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