Black College Football - The Xperience: What's Behind the Name?

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by P2K

How in the holy hell can this country tell black people that they are the ones keeping racism alive these days? Meanwhile, one of the hot issues in my area is that some black and Hispanic campers from North Philly were told they weren't allowed back to a predominantly white swim club in Huntingdon Valley, PA.

Not sure what that has to do with these schools labeling themselves as such, or even my point, but again, I digress.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

My comment was more so directed at the schools labeling themselves as such and how individuals cry "racism" or "politically incorrect" when it's convenient for them than the fact they labeled the game as such. People want to be viewed as individuals, not "black" individuals, so why label a school as such? Your Christian example, while a good one, is about a religious background that encompasses individuals of a similar belief... not exactly on par with a "black" school. Similar to a trade school, you are taught the beliefs of the religion and to practice it in life... similar, yet different enough to point out. But that's beyond the scope of this thread, so I digress.

Which HBCU cry "racism" when it is convenient? I can still be viewed as an individual and still be within a ethnic group.

[Pared]

Individuals, grunt, not the schools.

PM me for more. Again, it's beyond the scope of this thread and don't want to get it sidetracked again.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

My comment was more so directed at the schools labeling themselves as such and how individuals cry "racism" or "politically incorrect" when it's convenient for them than the fact they labeled the game as such. People want to be viewed as individuals, not "black" individuals, so why label a school as such? Your Christian example, while a good one, is about a religious background that encompasses individuals of a similar belief... not exactly on par with a "black" school. Similar to a trade school, you are taught the beliefs of the religion and to practice it in life... similar, yet different enough to point out. But that's beyond the scope of this thread, so I digress.

Actually schools like Liberty and Orel Roberts arent schools that teach you the beliefs of the religion and how to practice it. They are schools like any other college. The only difference is the majority of people who attend those schools are of the christian faith and came to the school because of its history and conservative lifestyle culture. Most people attend black schools for the same reason...because of the school's culture and history.

Labeling an institution "Black" doesnt mean that it cant observe, comment or complain about racism or political correctness. The schools never complain about the term HBCU or Black College. That is the school's identity and I see nothing wrong with labeling it as such. The term HBCU's or Black College isnt racist so labeling a school that doesnt preclude someone from complaing about racism.

The term "HBCU" or Black College doesnt exclude anyone once you dig deeper than the label. The label references the history and also the culture of the school. At Liberty, there are more religious and christian courses than at most schools because they curriculum and culture are based in chrsitianity and their students are interested in those. At Clark, there are more courses geared toward african americans (AA history etc.) because its students are more in those courses.

[P2K]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Not sure what that has to do with these schools labeling themselves as such, or even my point, but again, I digress.

Whether you like it or not, it is all in the same. You can't sweep under the rug this country's shame like it never happened. And then, start crying hypocrisy or reverse racism against the people that were the victims of that shame because they keep an embrace on their history. Those schools are landmarks of African American history. Symbols of pride. And yet, some "individuals" think it is wrong to hold onto that history? Huh??

Are these same "individuals" screaming hypocrisy and reverse racism with Jewish schools and camps? Show me that. Or are the Jews not allowed to embrace their history and culture either?

[grunt]

It's all love. We should all be happy that someone is trying to make another football game.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Actually schools like Liberty and Orel Roberts arent schools that teach you the beliefs of the religion and how to practice it. They are schools like any other college. The only difference is the majority of people who attend those schools are of the christian faith and came to the school because of its history and conservative lifestyle culture. Most people attend black schools for the same reason...because of the school's culture and history.

Oral Roberts has a seminary! St. Johns does the same exact thing, a Catholic school here in Queens.

While they may not be plain as day or advertised, these schools do push their religious beliefs within the confines of their doors. And it doesn't matter your religious beliefs as well.

Quote: Originally Posted by P2K

Those schools are landmarks of African American history. Symbols of pride. And yet, some "individuals" think it is wrong to hold onto that history? Huh??

You're arguing a point that was never made, which was expected. No point in discussing anything with you, something I've figured out pretty easily while being at OS.

I PMed grunt. He knows exactly what I'm talking about, and once again, it's beyond the scope of this thread.

[P2K]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

You're arguing a point that was never made, which was expected. No point in discussing anything with you, something I've figured out pretty easily while being at OS.

And you accuse people of using words of convenience to worm out of something, yet you just did it in the above post.

That point was made, loud and clear. You don't like my answer or can't refute it, so you break out the convenient "P2K's at it again" line. Typical. Like you've been a ray of sunshine the past couple years.

You made your opinion. People called you out on it. Now, you want to take your ball and go home with a puss on your face. You're better than that. At least I thought you were. I brought up the schools. I am in line with what you are bringing up. So, what's your problem?

All people of different cultures created something they embrace as their history or part of what made them what they are today. These HBCUs are exactly that. Why is that offensive?