NCAA Football 10 News Post

NCAA Football 10 Rosters Issue

06:11 PM - June 10, 2009 by Russell_Kiniry_EA

Hey guys... so we are aware of the issue with no (or few) freshmen on some teams in TeamBuilder and yes the same issues are found on the NCAA 10 disc. Over the past few days, one of our top priorities has been investigating solutions.

The TeamBuilder teams require some data on the disc to set Depth Charts for every team created before they can be used in a game. For example if you use the Cupcake roster as a starting point, NCAA 10 will give you a default Depth Chart for the Cupcakes for your TeamBuilder team (which you can edit in game). This means any changes we make could cause some problems with teams already created using TeamBuilder. So we need to ensure we are taking to proper steps to correct the issues.

We understand the concerns with how this can affect Dynasty mode and Online Games, so we are working hard to have a solution in place before launch on July 14th.

-Russ

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# 241 Happyvally74 @ 06/11/09 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by boucher


	The saviour of the NCAA series

O holy EA Sports Prophet

# 242 countryboy @ 06/11/09 10:49 AM

I think whats getting lost is the fact that they are at least trying to remedy the situation. It sucks that were in this situation, but whats done is done. Nothing more to do now than sit back and hope for the best.

But reading some of the comments in here is a great way to pass the time...

# 243 DAWGNATION06 @ 06/11/09 10:51 AM

i have been buying ea college football games since the games on sega genesis and back then it really didnt matter but now with the technology that is available i expect nothing but the best from ea as they are the leader in sports games. I am being honest when i say its all good to have all these good graphics and game modes but if you can't even get the small stuff right, what does that really say about your dedication and ability to even create a real top flight game??? i might buy this game but if i don't it will be the first year in like 18 years i have not bought some college football game from electonic arts.

# 244 ram124 @ 06/11/09 10:53 AM

Russ,

Thanks for taking the time to address the issue, but like many have already said it's more than just missing freshmen. For example: The Mississippi State roster has 11 players on it's roster that graduated last year...and 2 guys that were kicked off the team 2 springs ago. Also, there is only one freshman on the roster. I don't expect the rosters to be perfect, but EA has never put out rosters this bad. Thanks again for looking into the issue, and I really hope you guys can get this fixed before July 14th.

# 245 TJdaSportsGuy @ 06/11/09 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Happyvally74


	O holy EA Sports Prophet

Since he's going to save the franchise, I'll just give his personal e-mail address out here on the forums and tell people that the "Savior of the NCAA Series" is taking e-mail suggestions for how to fix the roster issue and other things to squeeze into this year's game.

# 246 HuskerFan @ 06/11/09 11:01 AM

Add me to the list of people that don't give a damn if I need to recreate my Teambuilder teams..

Accurate Rosters >>>>>>>>> Teambuilder Teams

# 247 Skyboxer @ 06/11/09 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	I think whats getting lost is the fact that they are at least trying to remedy the situation. It sucks that were in this situation, but whats done is done. Nothing more to do now than sit back and hope for the best. But reading some of the comments in here is a great way to pass the time...

Yeah it's nice they are trying to fix the issue but it seems they are getting to be the company that is getting great at the "firefighting" of constant issues every year. They seriously need to take a step back and re-evaluate who they have and what type of system they have at head quarters.
They seem to be getting to complacent and frankly too comfortable with making crucial errors.
Hope they get it figured out for those that are purchasing it this year but with all due respect to them, screw the "At least they are trying to fix it". It's time they start performing like the major high profile company they are.
My .02.

# 248 Happyvally74 @ 06/11/09 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TJdaSportsGuy


	Since he's going to save the franchise, I'll just give his personal e-mail address out here on the forums and tell people that the "Savior of the NCAA Series" is taking e-mail suggestions for how to fix the roster issue and other things to squeeze into this year's game.

That sounds like a good idea. I was going to say lets wash his feet or something

, but, ya the email thing sounds good too.

# 249 Hey_Rebby @ 06/11/09 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	I think whats getting lost is the fact that they are at least trying to remedy the situation. It sucks that were in this situation, but whats done is done. Nothing more to do now than sit back and hope for the best. But reading some of the comments in here is a great way to pass the time...

I can't understand why some people have this attitude. That's it's acceptable that EVERY year EA releases an NCAA game with MAJOR flaws. It would be one thing if a mistake like this happened once every five years, but it happens EVERY YEAR, at least on next-gen.

And I purchased a PS3 specifically to play my (used to be) favorite game, NCAA Football. Every year I curse the video game gods for coming up with Next Gen.

# 250 Brandwin @ 06/11/09 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	Yeah it's nice they are trying to fix the issue but it seems they are getting to be the company that is getting great at the "firefighting" of constant issues every year. They seriously need to take a step back and re-evaluate who they have and what type of system they have at head quarters. They seem to be getting to complacent and frankly too comfortable with making crucial errors. Hope they get it figured out for those that are purchasing it this year but with all due respect to them, screw the "At least they are trying to fix it". It's time they start performing like the major high profile company they are. My .02.

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Originally Posted by Hey_Rebby


	I can't understand why some people have this attitude. That's it's acceptable that EVERY year EA releases an NCAA game with MAJOR flaws. It would be one thing if a mistake like this happened once every five years, but it happens EVERY YEAR, at least on next-gen. And I purchased a PS3 specifically to play my (used to be) favorite game, NCAA Football. Every year I curse the video game gods for coming up with Next Gen.

These two posts sum up what I think about all of this. There is no excuse to have the "wrong roster" (I still doubt there were two different ones made... what would be the point of spending time making two different rosters?) and instead of fixing the issue like they can, they don't want to upset people who made teams using teambuilders?

# 251 DAWGNATION06 @ 06/11/09 11:15 AM

we the people ultimately pay these guys , so we should have a voice in what goes on in all fairness. i bet if everybody got together and didn't buy this sorry excuse for a college football game or the precious madden they would go in the hole ,but so many people will buy it and that's why year after year there is always some screw up by them because they know their is no other choice for us die-hard college fans to go with.

# 252 HuskerFan @ 06/11/09 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Moostache


	This is NOT that complicated of a problem to solve - simply reboot "TB-beta" with "TB-final" and fix the root cause - the tainted / "wrong" roster file. Thats the exact reason that you launch something like Team Builder with a "beta" label attached to it...so that in the event something unforeseen or unplanned goes wrong that it can be fixed without people being legitimately upset.

I agree, it says BETA so they are able to make changes to it if other issues arise, which is what has happened. Blow the teams away... Rosters >> CAS

# 253 dyingsince1964 @ 06/11/09 11:34 AM

The Colorado roster makes me so mad that I stopped reading and had to post something again.

Do they even realize the amount of people who are not on websites like this that they are driving crazy?

# 254 striker3771 @ 06/11/09 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by boucher


	I can see the future, I was saying these things back then people were laughing at me and calling me reindear names but now the majority of ppl who were dissing are now seeing what I saw in march

You could be OS's own Sylvia Browne. Maybe next year you can come on Montel William's show and give us your predictions on all EA's title.

# 255 Brandwin @ 06/11/09 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Moostache


	Trying to fix a mistake does not earn someone a big cookie or a Bozo button....my old man used to say "you don't get an atta-boy for doing your job"! I have lost jobs in my life for FAR less than this kind of gross negligence regarding proofing / checking work. Hell, some of those same things would have probably gotten me promoted at EA under these kind of quality controls! This is NOT that complicated of a problem to solve - simply reboot "TB-beta" with "TB-final" and fix the root cause - the tainted / "wrong" roster file. Thats the exact reason that you launch something like Team Builder with a "beta" label attached to it...so that in the event something unforeseen or unplanned goes wrong that it can be fixed without people being legitimately upset.

Valid points keep being made, but they will be overlooked. We know how this story plays out.

# 256 mattbooty @ 06/11/09 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DookieMowf


	These two posts sum up what I think about all of this. There is no excuse to have the "wrong roster" (I still doubt there were two different ones made... what would be the point of spending time making two different rosters?)

Coming from a programmer, they probably don't have 2 rosters, they probably have dozens if not hundreds. When developing (this goes for code AND resources, like a roster file, or graphics, etc) every revision becomes a new file, so from what I'm gathering they grabbed an earlier revision for the disc rather than the final revision (from the looks of it it was a VERY early revision).

so it may be roster_0.10, roster_0.15, roster_0.24, etc, etc leading up to the final roster_1.00... they just used the wrong one and the correct roster file is already done, just not on the disc or teambuilder.

# 257 Ziza9Noles94 @ 06/11/09 11:44 AM

Great post mattbooty.

# 258 DAWGNATION06 @ 06/11/09 11:46 AM

well they all need to get their heads out of their rears and come up with a solution and quit putting out trash every year and promising to make next years version better .

# 259 nstod @ 06/11/09 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Moostache


	Trying to fix a mistake does not earn someone a big cookie or a Bozo button....my old man used to say "you don't get an atta-boy for doing your job"! I have lost jobs in my life for FAR less than this kind of gross negligence regarding proofing / checking work. Hell, some of those same things would have probably gotten me promoted at EA under these kind of quality controls! This is NOT that complicated of a problem to solve - simply reboot "TB-beta" with "TB-final" and fix the root cause - the tainted / "wrong" roster file. Thats the exact reason that you launch something like Team Builder with a "beta" label attached to it...so that in the event something unforeseen or unplanned goes wrong that it can be fixed without people being legitimately upset.

I'm pretty sure there's more to it than just "reloading" TB. Adam has said as much, and Russ said the incorrect rosters are "on the disc".

Also, Russ is trying to fix this, but I am positive it's not his fault. Like any big software company, I'm sure EA has an SCM group overseeing the software releases. I work for a large software company, and things can get screwed up BIG TIME with SCM. It's a shame no one caught it after it went through SCM, but in all honesty, it's not too surprising to me whatsoever.

# 260 pgtrain42 @ 06/11/09 11:52 AM

Would we be able to use teambuilder to edit the ratings and names of players on our favorite NCAA team and send it to someone who would keep track and then put it in the game in a roster file? Sure it might be a little biased for everyone's fave team but it might end up being better than the solution the developers for EA (might) come up with. And i mean, we're not really doing anything right now except wait. Anyone else on board with this idea? Cause Syracuse's rosters are the exact same as last year, and they haven't changed anyones positions or added any of our (horrible) freshmen yet.

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