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# 221 Anti Honor @ 04/26/09 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	I personally think you are when all the factors that have been said here should be taken to account and also on top of that, there's much more info that is going to get released soon.

Well, man, like I said - I hope that's the case. I've been pumped from day one of the blogs, and I've been pumped about the new team. I've been telling people this year is going to be different. I even decided to pass on NCAA, thinking most of my gaming time would be dedicated to Madden for once. I'm just not as pumped or certain after seeing the last two vids.

Why not give us a decent video?

This whole ''oh, it's on pro, so expect it to be crappy'' excuse is getting rather old. I've been seeing and playing crap for years now, I want to see and play something good.

So, EA, when should we expect a video that actually shows improvements?

# 222 roadman @ 04/26/09 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alliance4g63


	Because that is not football. If they want that type of play they can play Blitz. When I was a kid I used to love Super High Impact football and NFL Blitz. But guess why I started playing Madden and Nes play action football? Because it was more like the real thing. It was more about calling plays and executing. Let me ask you this. What if a person only plays rookie against the A.I. and never decides to play on the higher levels. What do you think will happen when he plays online or against his buddies? He will play the same way the game allowed him to play, learning absolutely nothing. So that is my whole point about the game being fundamentally wrong, EVEN ON ROOKIE!

I hear ya, but their maybe only 1 football game in the house nowadays, and in most households, that game is Madden.

The kids will play against each other on rookie because they like those high scoring games. Those kids aren't franchise or single season players, they either go up against the A.I. or against each other.

I just don't see what the big deal is having a level for novices or kids, besides it's not football. It's can be football on levels higher than rookie.

# 223 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	I'm not dead wrong. I know this was the first year EA got good PR out of sending OSers to Orlando. What I'm saying is that they have had years to read the forums all over the internet, and they still haven't done much with it. What makes you think that they are going to bend over backwards to please eight random people?

lol... this is funny becuase the testers gave so much critical feedback about the past version of the game. So you think the only reason they did it was for good PR and nothing more important than that?

Again... you keep on comparing things to how they were with the old team when we have a new head team working on the game.

# 224 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti Honor


	Well, man, like I said - I hope that's the case. I've been pumped from day one of the blogs, and I've been pumped about the new team. I've been telling people this year is going to be different. I even decided to pass on NCAA, thinking most of my gaming time would be dedicated to Madden for once. I'm just not as pumped or certain after seeing the last two vids. Why not give us a decent video? This whole ''oh, it's on pro, so expect it to be crappy'' excuse is getting rather old. I've been seeing and playing crap for years now, I want to see and play something good. So, EA, when should we expect a video that actually shows improvements?

You should ask the PR team this rather than the people that make the game.

Ian has basically said it himself that he hates how PR tapes the game when they don't know how to play the game well and also since they play it on rookie.

Ian will be addressing this since he said that he will soon make a vid for us "sim" fans showing off the wildcat formation.

# 225 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	lol... this is funny becuase the testers gave so much critical feedback about the past version of the game. So you think the only reason they did it was for good PR and nothing more important than that? Again... you keep on comparing things to how they were with the old team when we have a new head team working on the game.

I'm basing it on track record. EA does this with every single game they put out. By having the Operation Sports stamp of approval on the early release of information, it is good PR for the company.

# 226 roadman @ 04/26/09 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	I'm not dead wrong. I know this was the first year EA got good PR out of sending OSers to Orlando. What I'm saying is that they have had years to read the forums all over the internet, and they still haven't done much with it. What makes you think that they are going to bend over backwards to please eight random people?

You stated earlier that EA sent OSers in years past and that is the part that was dead wrong.

That is just silly if you don't know the facts.

These people were hard core critics with the Madden series. One guy had a game of 2k5 with him and said, if Madden isn't any good, I'm going to play this the whole time. He never opened the case.

# 227 alliance4g63 @ 04/26/09 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	Again though, maybe the lessons he learned from playing the game on higher difficulties (since he will get sacked, pass for ints, fumble etc.) with his friends will make him want to practice more on harder levels so that he can get better. Like you want to give tools to newbies so that they can get better but since the game sells so much, you don't want to irk them into not wanting to play it at all.

But here is a news flash. How big of a difference has there ever been from rookie to all-pro, in the past? Because I'm just giving Ea the benefit of the doubt. When I first went online with Madden I was amazed at how many people played the same way. Then I played some buddies locally and they played the same way as the online folks.

So again if they don't fix the core people will never have a reason to play football. They will just do the ridiculous stuff the game allows them to do.

The funny thing is I don't even care much about the no sim players but just compare the players in the 2k5 tourney to the Madden tourney players. The stuff they can pull in Madden makes the game not even a football game anymore. Dropping your entire defense in coverage?! CMON! Again there is something wrong FUNDAMENTALLY with a so called SIMULATION football game when you can even accomplish that. ROOKIE OR ALL-MADDEN.

# 228 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	I'm basing it on track record. EA does this with every single game they put out. By having the Operation Sports stamp of approval on the early release of information, it is good PR for the company.

But again, how can you base it on track record when...

1. The people they usually brought for community day were people who made madden sites and were madden challenge competitors when this year they have brought in people who gave a ton of constructive feedback about past madden games and/or have bashed madden?

2. This year's community day was earlier than it was in years past and therefore they have more time to tune things based on feedback.

3. A large part of this change was due to Ian now being the head of the game.

Like really... it's much much more than just good PR (especially when most casuals probably don't even know what OS is).

# 229 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	You stated earlier that EA sent OSers in years past and that is the part that was dead wrong. That is just silly if you don't know the facts. These people were hard core critics with the Madden series. One guy had a game of 2k5 with him and said, if Madden isn't any good, I'm going to play this the whole time. He never opened the case. You

No, I said EA could read off of the boards in the past. I have never said at any point that they had been there before.

I don't get what you are trying to say in the second paragraph. Maybe lay off the hard stuff before posting...

# 230 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	But again, how can you base it on track record when... 1. The people they usually brought for community day were people who made madden sites and were madden challenge competitors when this year they have brought in people who gave a ton of constructive feedback about past madden games and/or have bashed madden? 2. This year's community day was earlier than it was in years past and therefore they have more time to tune things based on feedback. 3. A large part of this change was due to Ian now being the head of the game. Like really... it's much much more than just good PR (especially when most casuals probably don't even know what OS is).

I can base off track record because EA puts up silly gimmicks and people fall for them every year. Having OSers come to Orlando is a gimmick whether you want to think about it that way or not. It's good business sense to have positive hype around you. That way, EA can go out and say that hardcore gamers like it, and this will be the best sports game ever.

I hope EA did take their advice. I would love to see a great football game out of Madden 10. I'm saying that I wouldn't get my hopes up because of Maddens 06-09.

# 231 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by alliance4g63


	But here is a news flash. How big of a difference has there ever been from rookie to all-pro, in the past? Because I'm just giving Ea the benefit of the doubt. When I first went online with Madden I was amazed at how many people played the same way. Then I played some buddies locally and they played the same way as the online folks. So again if they don't fix the core people will never have a reason to play football. They will just do the ridiculous stuff the game allows them to do. The funny thing is I don't even care much about the no sim players but just compare the players in the 2k5 tourney to the Madden tourney players. The stuff they can pull in Madden makes the game not even a football game anymore. Dropping your entire defense in coverage?! CMON! Again there is something wrong FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with a so called SIMULATION football game when you can even accomplish that. ROOKIE OR ALL-MADDEN.

Ian is the new head of the team... so he wasn't the one that made the game like that in the past...

Ian has basically said that he wanted to keep rookie and pro modes the same in terms of play since casuals enjoy playing the game that way.

All-pro and all-madden got the most tuning and like I said before, this year the difference in rookie/pro and all-pro/all-madden will be the biggest they ever were in a madden game due to this.

# 232 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PackersFan127


	wow, you are an idiot if cannot understand the second paragraph

Or maybe I can't dumb down my English to understand what he wrote. I'm guessing he's saying that I have never played Madden in the next- gen series. That would be a lie, considering I own Madden 07 and have rented the past two versions. I still play 2k5 on a regular basis though.

Of course, I can't understand seventh- grade English, so maybe he wasn't saying that. If so, my apologies.

# 233 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	I can base off track record because EA puts up silly gimmicks and people fall for them every year. Having OSers come to Orlando is a gimmick whether you want to think about it that way or not. It's good business sense to have positive hype around you. That way, EA can go out and say that hardcore gamers like it, and this will be the best sports game ever.

Maybe becuase the hardcore games actually did even though they noticed many problems and they enjoyed the game even more when Ian fixed those problems right in front of them on his laptop????

::GASP!!!::

lol.. again it's not a gimmick. If it was a gimmick they would of done community day when they normally did in the past and they would of sent in the same exact people.

# 234 alliance4g63 @ 04/26/09 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	I hear ya, but their maybe only 1 football game in the house nowadays, and in most households, that game is Madden. The kids will play against each other on rookie because they like those high scoring games. Those kids aren't franchise or single season players, they either go up against the A.I. or against each other. I just don't see what the big deal is having a level for novices or kids, besides it's not football. It's can be football on levels higher than rookie.

I don't think you are giving kids enough credit. I have seen grown *** men play worse than a kid plays just because they don't know any better. I know when I played my buddies when I was younger the worst thing we were doing was calling the same plays.

But again, if you don't allow little Tommy to complete bombs every other play then little Tommy won't grow up thinking he can complete bombs every other play.

# 235 roadman @ 04/26/09 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	No, I said EA could read off of the boards in the past. I have never said at any point that they had been there before. I don't get what you are trying to say in the second paragraph. Maybe lay off the hard stuff before posting...

Your right, I misread about what you said about EA reading off the boards.

Are you privy that they read the OS boards, though? Ian was the first one that posted over here. Before that, I didn't recognize anyone from EA over here.

Maybe you should lay off the hard stuff as well and try reading comprehension. My point is, the 8 people that went to CD were hard core Madden critics. They let EA know what didn't look right, and sent feedback to Ian even 1-2 weeks after CD.

Is that clearer for you?

# 236 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	Ian is the new head of the team... so he wasn't the one that made the game like that in the past... Ian has basically said that he wanted to keep rookie and pro modes the same in terms of play since casuals enjoy playing the game that way. All-pro and all-madden got the most tuning and like I said before, this year the difference in rookie/pro and all-pro/all-madden will be the biggest they ever were in a madden game due to this.

He sorta did make the game like that in the past, considering he was on the team.

Ian saying he wants to keep rookie and pro modes the same is a great excuse to base failures off of. Again, "it's only rookie mode" give him the room to put out gameplay that is sub- par.

And again, I should take your word on all- pro and all- Madden being tuned up, considering you have the game.

# 237 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Your right, I misread about what you said about EA reading off the boards. Are you privy that they read the OS boards, though? Ian was the first one that posted over here. Before that, I didn't recognize anyone from EA over here. Maybe you should lay off the hard stuff as well and try reading comprehension. My point is, the 8 people that went to CD were hard core Madden critics. They let EA know what didn't look right, and sent feedback to Ian even 1-2 weeks after CD. Is that clearer for you?

They have before, but I admit not in the same fashion as they do today. I take it as a positive sign, but then again I look at their track record.

And thank you for clearing up that second paragraph. Now that I can read it, I'm not disputing that at all. What I'm saying is what you put in writing doesn't always get interpreted correctly.

# 238 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PackersFan127


	Umm, we have heard people that have PLAYED THE GAME that have said that allpro/allmadden are very sim, and we heard it from Ian as well, GET A GRIP

I have heard it from EA too. I've also heard that we will play the game in a whole new light in Madden 10, just like in Madden 09, just like in Madden 08, and so on. I don't believe a word of it until I see it.

# 239 Perfect Zero @ 04/26/09 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fourthreemafia


	Dont worry...one day, youll be able to read at a seventh grade level. Only person who doesnt understand it is you. You shouldnt toss insults around when the issue is clearly on your end.

I don't read at a seventh- grade level because I constantly read research papers by my peers. That is at the college level. I would hope you could understand that, but then again, it might be above your head.

# 240 Bgamer90 @ 04/26/09 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero


	He sorta did make the game like that in the past, considering he was on the team. Ian saying he wants to keep rookie and pro modes the same is a great excuse to base failures off of. Again, "it's only rookie mode" give him the room to put out gameplay that is sub- par. And again, I should take your word on all- pro and all- Madden being tuned up, considering you have the game.

Ian worked on the team yes, but he didn't have any say as to what actually got in the game and what didn't.

lol you are funny.

All I'm doing is saying what has been said by the testers and the blogs. I don't have the game and neither have I played it (since if that was the case I wouldn't even talk about the game as much as I am now due to the various agreements the testers have to make lol).

Ian himself said the game was tuned the most on all-pro and all-madden and so have the testers. So who should I believe?
You (a person who hasn't played the game at all) or Ian and the testers who were critical of madden (people who have worked on the game and have played it)?

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