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Rookie and pro is catered to the casuals. You want to make the casuals happy since the casuals are the reason why the game sells so well. You want to make them have an enjoyable experience and not be frustrated since they won't get the game anymore. And while madden is a sim, the game sells so much that they need to also cater to the casuals.
Again, you don't want to force these people to play a certain way. All you can really do is give them tips. If they are doing stupid things than most people (well I know I would) would want to bank on that. So yeah I see where you are coming from but in the end, with all the improvements that are being made, if they play on all-pro (the online difficulty setting) or all-madden, it's going to be hard for them to do this type of stuff.
I guess what we all can agree on is that the 80 yard bomb pass in the video wasn't good looking. But since he was playing on rookie I don't see what there is to get really really upset about (unless you play on rookie).
Also there will be sliders to tune just about all aspects of the game to your liking and on top of that, the game itself is still being tuned and worked on. So yeah... in summary, it seems like everyone will be able to enjoy the game offline since they can tune it the way they want and also since the differences in difficulty levels are probably the biggest that they have ever been in any Madden game.
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Ian doesn't have control over what the PR team releases. All the videos made by the marketing team are set to rookie.
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Today is April 25th, the game comes out on August 14th, I'm pretty sure that by the time the 14th rolls around Ian and company will have shown more than enough videos with sim gameplay for everyone to make an honest evaluation about whether or not the game has improved enough for their liking.
Anyone making prognostications of doom right now is just doing so because of their long standing animus toward EA and exclusivity.
Anyone making prognostications of doom right now is just doing so because of their long standing animus toward EA and exclusivity.
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alliance4g63 @ 04/25/09 03:46 PM
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A Qb dropping back 15 yards is something that is fundamentally wrong with the game because it is not football. If they want to make easier for people to pass have blown assignments. Have their players run faster than the AI players, etc.. But don't have Qb's complete 80 yards passes off their backfoot because that is just not football.
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More than you'd think.
[I Don't Know if this has been posted before]
Has anyone seen the new Fallon video?
Eat your heart out presentation guys;Help on injuries and Injury carts! Sideline cutscenes and Training bikes? What!? Not to mention those info banners, drop back, sideline activity, all new tackles (Did you see that dirty tackle on Larry?).
This is a must see:
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon....42409/1091411/
EDIT: My bad, I see the thread with this info. I didn't see the video posted, but here it is. Watch the whole thing.
Has anyone seen the new Fallon video?
Eat your heart out presentation guys;Help on injuries and Injury carts! Sideline cutscenes and Training bikes? What!? Not to mention those info banners, drop back, sideline activity, all new tackles (Did you see that dirty tackle on Larry?).
This is a must see:
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon....42409/1091411/
EDIT: My bad, I see the thread with this info. I didn't see the video posted, but here it is. Watch the whole thing.
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However, I'm thinking that Jimmy is too good to be playing on rookie since he was able to do that (and I bet just about anyone here on OS would be able to do that on rookie too).
But anyways, I personally think that they should let users do whatever they want. It's just that there should be more of a penalty to when they make dumb decisions. Like if they drop back, have the button icons rotate between the receivers or something like that so that it would be almost impossible to make a good pass. But yeah once again, if you aren't playing on rookie I don't really get what there is to be really upset about and also on top of that (like I said before) they are still tuning a lot of stuff (the first trailer was made before community day).
So yeah lets see how the future vids will be...
EDIT: Also, your comparison to rock band while understandable, isn't really that good imo since there's different ways you gotta make the casuals happy. In rock band all you need to do is reduce the notes and the game is still enjoyable overall for mostly anyone since the whole game is basically based on just the notes. There's much more involved in madden (or any sports game for that matter when you compare it to music games).
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# 174
carolina_boi @ 04/25/09 05:23 PM
Ok lets be real here. this guy isnt very skilled in madden , as you can tell from the video that Phil Frazier *senior producer* just let him have his way so that it was fun and easy for him. im liking what i see though as far as gameplay, camera view, and pop up screen (penalty).
The play where the guy threw the ball deep was beautiful. A GREAT EXAMPLE of how the wr/ cb interactions have changed. The first cornerback initially covering the reciever was getting beat by the wr, the wr caught the ball over the cornerback, the cornerback made an effort to tackle the wr once he was beaten and failed therefore the safety had to step up and make the tackle. This is a GREAT JOB by the EA team and a prime example of one of the many great improvements for Madden 10.
The play where the guy threw the ball deep was beautiful. A GREAT EXAMPLE of how the wr/ cb interactions have changed. The first cornerback initially covering the reciever was getting beat by the wr, the wr caught the ball over the cornerback, the cornerback made an effort to tackle the wr once he was beaten and failed therefore the safety had to step up and make the tackle. This is a GREAT JOB by the EA team and a prime example of one of the many great improvements for Madden 10.
# 175
alliance4g63 @ 04/25/09 09:11 PM
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I agree somewhat with the whole let the player play the way they want to. Which is why I disagreed with fair play. BUT! If you were playing a shooter you would want someone just running around in circles and you not being able to kill them just because they like to run around in circles.
# 176
alliance4g63 @ 04/25/09 09:21 PM
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# 177
teambayern @ 04/25/09 09:30 PM
This was very disappointing. I don't care about the playcalling interface or the improved graphics or whatnot, i care about that ridiculous drop and 80 yrd completion on 4th.
I know it was probably on rookie, but still, the fact that he was even able to drop that far back without getting sacked is very worriesome. DEFINITELY renting this one before buying, I really hope Ian make this a different game on a higher difficulty. But if I'm really honest with myself, have I ever seen Madden magically transform to a sim on higher difficulties? NO. Sure it will be more balanced, and some things tuned and tweaked, but the problem is so basic. On all-madden, they are really going to have entirely different throwing animations, qb animations, and physics for the ball in flight? I don't buy it.
Ian and the team seem like such great guys. I have to believe that if they can't make it sim, then no one can, and they are just too confined by the existing Madden base. The first comment in the video says it all
"if you played Madden before, this should be pretty familiar to you"
I know it was probably on rookie, but still, the fact that he was even able to drop that far back without getting sacked is very worriesome. DEFINITELY renting this one before buying, I really hope Ian make this a different game on a higher difficulty. But if I'm really honest with myself, have I ever seen Madden magically transform to a sim on higher difficulties? NO. Sure it will be more balanced, and some things tuned and tweaked, but the problem is so basic. On all-madden, they are really going to have entirely different throwing animations, qb animations, and physics for the ball in flight? I don't buy it.
Ian and the team seem like such great guys. I have to believe that if they can't make it sim, then no one can, and they are just too confined by the existing Madden base. The first comment in the video says it all
"if you played Madden before, this should be pretty familiar to you"
Did you people really expect a different game? its EA same game with updated rosters, a little better graphics and some new features
# 179
teambayern @ 04/25/09 09:51 PM
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I think Microsoft should seize on this and develop inhouse with 2k's guys or buy the rights to backbreaker and upgrade it.
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