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# 341
adembroski @ 04/24/09 04:07 AM
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This trailer was clearly not intended to be torn asunder by the community, but for crying out loud, a lot of momentum was lost here because of whoever put this video together. I have to believe it wasn't anyone on the actual development team, because I can't believe they would shoot themselves in the foot like this.
I'm actually angry. This makes me look the *** because I've been talking this game up since before I played it, and when I did play it, I wasn't disappointed at all. A few things were questionable, but it wasn't like this.
I'm glad they got Pro-Tak in the video, because pro-tak is awesome. They got a few new animations, and yes, unfortunately, we're getting the same poor basic running animation, and yes, quarterbacks still do that goofy knee bend when they throw, but overall, animation-wise...
Okay, look, I was the guy who sat there amongst 2 2k5 fans and I was the one who said Madden did not top 2k5 in terms of animations. The two guys... The Watcher and LBzrule... both looked at me like I was friggin' nuts. So take that for what it's worth.
# 342
oldskoolmaddenfanz27 @ 04/24/09 04:08 AM
its just foolish to take the word of anyone on the EA payroll/on the inside, playing advanced copies, getting invites to events, free games, who knows what else, because its been the same thing for the last two years. I realize it may not be the same people, but there were those "in the know", and whatever you want to call them defending the merits of Madden 08 and 09, I know this from memory. I hope everyone makes a responsible decision with their money that isnt based on their own observations and not the word of anyone else. they will work you until the end.
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The good.......
- Gang Tackling
- OL/DL Interaction is good but not great
- On field Refs
- It seems like the center for both teams was in no mans land every time.
- That was either a poor trailer by GT or the graphics were not that great at all.
- Throwing Motion was robotic
- Player movement was robotic and stiff as a board.
- Player movement was same as Madden 09 IMO
- Defensive Backs like the double team on Fitz was not even looking at him.
- There was no pocket formed at all from what I seen.
- The same branching tackle animation in Madden 10 as was in 09. When you see a finesse back like Willie Parker move a pile and break out of 2 players doubling up on a tackle is pathetic. No wonder Ian got 300+ yards with Brandon Jacobs when he played.
- Seemed like the refs was getting knocked down every play. You hardly ever see this in the NFL.
- The towels were not animated to sway as the player moves.
- The player models looked horrible with there arms, helmets, face mask, and more.
If I was going to make a game and put a trailer of that game on a national exclusive would I want the best my new game has to offer in that trailer? The answer for everyone would be yes.
No answer this.....
If that is the best that Madden 10 has to offer than how can you be happy with the product?
I will say this again in normal letters..... If this is what Madden 10 will be than.....
No Sell!
# 344
cowboysfan440 @ 04/24/09 04:10 AM
i think ppl are taking a bit more out of this than was intended honestly i think this was just to show case the new animations mainly the protak tech and we should honestly wait to see some in game footage before we go making huge judgements
# 345
oldskoolmaddenfanz27 @ 04/24/09 04:11 AM
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# 346
ghostlight85 @ 04/24/09 04:12 AM
Ok, so there are some legitimate concerns from this video. I am slightly less excited than I was 3 hours ago. I am thrilled to see 4 man gang tackling, and linemen pushing the pile and things of that sort, but one poster hit it right on when he said that it seems like the tacklers let go rather than the ball carrier breaking free. It's been a problem for a while.
The thing with Hood, the corner on the cardinals, was a little disheartening. It felt like he should have been burned pretty bad, and he got a magic get out of jail free card.
But I am not going to have a conniption. Ian has been saying a lot of things about how the build being shown for media people was missing a lot of things being held back for E3. Hopefully, this trailer was made missing some of those same things. The game will undoubtedly be better than last years. But... maybe I've let Ian and Donny and the team get my hopes a little higher than I should have.
Then again, the guys who have played the game seem to be saying that this just doesn't do it justice. And that keeps me hopeful.
The thing with Hood, the corner on the cardinals, was a little disheartening. It felt like he should have been burned pretty bad, and he got a magic get out of jail free card.
But I am not going to have a conniption. Ian has been saying a lot of things about how the build being shown for media people was missing a lot of things being held back for E3. Hopefully, this trailer was made missing some of those same things. The game will undoubtedly be better than last years. But... maybe I've let Ian and Donny and the team get my hopes a little higher than I should have.
Then again, the guys who have played the game seem to be saying that this just doesn't do it justice. And that keeps me hopeful.
Hitman, I don't think this trailer was put together by someone who is at all concerned with our opinions. It looked like the game was manipulated to create "wow" moments. There is some cause for concern, the video was pretty underwhelming, but I don't really think this is an accurate representation of what the final product will look like on my tv, on all-madden.
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Good way of summing all of this up.
# 351
Glorious Arc @ 04/24/09 04:18 AM
I can understand people saying Hood turned on a dime.
I cant understand how they think that a 5 yard(at most) gap couldnt have been closed because Holmes had to look over his shoulder and then make a very awkward type of catch. I would have been upset if Holmes kept running at full speed while making that catch because it was thrown slightly behind where he ran to and its a hard catch to make while moving in stride.
BTW there is a clipping issue with that catch animation. Its very small but you can see Homles left arm as he reaches to catch the ball go inside his equipment.
I cant understand how they think that a 5 yard(at most) gap couldnt have been closed because Holmes had to look over his shoulder and then make a very awkward type of catch. I would have been upset if Holmes kept running at full speed while making that catch because it was thrown slightly behind where he ran to and its a hard catch to make while moving in stride.
BTW there is a clipping issue with that catch animation. Its very small but you can see Homles left arm as he reaches to catch the ball go inside his equipment.
# 352
oChaos_Nine @ 04/24/09 04:19 AM
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Edit: I think I've figured out what makes the players look so out of proportion... The feet.
# 354
Brandon_c993 @ 04/24/09 04:20 AM
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I feel like we can agree the throw animations (disclaimer: in the trailer) don't look right, somehow. I've been thinking for a while about what it is specifically that is wrong with the throwing animations. It is my opinion that the biggest issue is the lower body and the way they bend their knees and sink so low while they throw. It's like they squat then rotate their knees. Very unnatural.


Man, it's difficult to find shots of a QB's knees while throwing.
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# 360
adembroski @ 04/24/09 04:24 AM
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But, yes, this had to be made on rookie... pro at *best*.
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