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I thought the whole thing was smooth. The only things that irked me were when the USC guy got upended by the Cal guy when he went up for a pass and when the USC guy "hit sticked" the Cal guy forcing the fumble. I hate those animations. All in all I think they did a great job of showing off all the little things that I've been hoping will make these games better like the layered blending, procedural awareness, and the wr/db interaction.
For the first time this year I think the NCAA guys have outdone the Madden guys. Hopefully Ian and the gang will make me eat those words soon. = p
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Brandon_c993 @ 04/24/09 03:55 AM
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People were expecting the best Madden ever or the best football game ever...and that is just not realistic...like I said in a previous post I will be happy if it is the best in recent years....
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all in all, i'd say the trailer was pretty underwhelming, but i'm glad because it will make the announcements further down the road that much better and it helps make the wait until august that much more bearable.
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Not that off-topic, actually. I think that a lot of the good stuff from the NCAA trailer will be in Madden (new animations, etc). Going by what's been said here, I think that there's some consensus that this trailer wasn't really made with us in mind, the termites who'll tear it apart.
My favorite parts of that trailer:
1) 0:28 - Texas #12 QB's throw animation (but I'm pretty sure that's because you can only see his upper body lol).
2) 0:22 - The jostling with Florida's #16 and his subsequent desperate reach animation where he can't reach the ball. One of my favorite anim's in APF2k8 was when a ball was too far out in front of a receiver and they just stuck out a futile arm in the ball's direction.
3) 0:34 - The #6 receiver from Wisconsin (?) catching that ball, then getting tackled by a clear facemask animation, and asking for a facemask flag when he gets up.
4) 0:53 - Penn State #82 making an impressive catch with his arms over a LB. It seems like it'd be a great "WOW" moment during a game and the LB seems to have been in poor position and made a poor play on the ball (not to mention didn't magically go from deflection attempt animation to tackle animation once the ball was caught).
FUGLY MOMENT:
1:09 - The animation by which USC #8 is tackled after he catches the ball. God I hated all that crap that year that they added the mid-air collision animations. They look awful.
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I sure hope the Madden guys go back to the "lab" and try to 1 up the NCAA guys with a far more impressive trailer. So far I have the score as 1-0, in favor of NCAA 10. Just sayin'.
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Unfortunately player movement looked just like last year's plus I didn't really see a pocket forming at least not the way I was expecting. Did you notice the center was always just standing there by himself looking like he had to take a dump?
And what's up with Parker breaking out of a 2 man tackle like that?
And what's up with Parker breaking out of a 2 man tackle like that?
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But yeah I agree. We need something asap to stop all of this chaos.....
After reading Adem and Kane's post as well as being impressed by the NCAA trailer I am positive that what we saw in the trailer is not what we are going to see come August. Just watching the NCAA trailer should be assuring b/c that trailer was impressive and Madden is normally equal or better in terms of animations.
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BayAreaRYder226 @ 04/24/09 04:20 AM
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# 394
PGaither84 @ 04/24/09 04:20 AM
Not sure if anyone caught this, but in the fumble pile up clip, an Arizona Defensive lineman pushed Big Ben and Ben responds with the animation calling for a flag for personal foul for unnecessary roughness.
While this is an early look, I sure hope the pile ups for fumbles are better than the one shown in the video. The clip looked like a minor pileup and not the dog pile we are used to on Sundays where officials have to pull players off and the players stand around pointing that it is their ball and then go ape when it is. This was like 3 players and two wrestling and two cards doing more of a "we got a first down" type of celebration.
I guess you could say i liked hat i saw, but wasn't terribly impressed either.
In regards to the pile up tackles, this left me yet again with a feeling of "abou ****ing time" more than excitement. While playing Madden 02 on my NGC my friend and I were talking about how it was about time we got some gang tackling and expect to see it in 03 or we would be mad. We got 2 man gang tackling in 03... and it has been only two man gangtackling ever since then. 7 games (03, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09) have all been two man gang tackling. It really took this longto figure out and apply more than two players in a gang tacklign system?
Am I glad we have it? Yes.
Am I upset it took this long? of cource.
To Ian, I can explain how happy I am to see all the improvements for madden 10, butI cannot help but get the feeling of "about ****ing time" over and over again when I see these improvements. I cannot really get up and jump for joy like i see others do as often because of this. Also, I really fear that these improvements are still going to take a year or two to really kink out anyway. I'm buying M10, I'm just not super pumped for it either.
While this is an early look, I sure hope the pile ups for fumbles are better than the one shown in the video. The clip looked like a minor pileup and not the dog pile we are used to on Sundays where officials have to pull players off and the players stand around pointing that it is their ball and then go ape when it is. This was like 3 players and two wrestling and two cards doing more of a "we got a first down" type of celebration.
I guess you could say i liked hat i saw, but wasn't terribly impressed either.
In regards to the pile up tackles, this left me yet again with a feeling of "abou ****ing time" more than excitement. While playing Madden 02 on my NGC my friend and I were talking about how it was about time we got some gang tackling and expect to see it in 03 or we would be mad. We got 2 man gang tackling in 03... and it has been only two man gangtackling ever since then. 7 games (03, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09) have all been two man gang tackling. It really took this longto figure out and apply more than two players in a gang tacklign system?
Am I glad we have it? Yes.
Am I upset it took this long? of cource.
To Ian, I can explain how happy I am to see all the improvements for madden 10, butI cannot help but get the feeling of "about ****ing time" over and over again when I see these improvements. I cannot really get up and jump for joy like i see others do as often because of this. Also, I really fear that these improvements are still going to take a year or two to really kink out anyway. I'm buying M10, I'm just not super pumped for it either.
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Madden has the most robotic player movement in a video game since contra.
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rckabillyRaider @ 04/24/09 04:48 AM
Gang tackling looked pretty good. Nice to see the ref on the field and the crowd actually looked alive.
Now the ugly part, the running animation as many have already mentioned, looked very robotic and stiff. And are little running backs gonna be breaking gang tackles regularly?
Now the ugly part, the running animation as many have already mentioned, looked very robotic and stiff. And are little running backs gonna be breaking gang tackles regularly?
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why does the wii version get colored but not the 360 and ps3 one? **** that!
ya know watching the ol/dl interaction was disappointing its still lacking that violence...watching the clip 1:21 its just the way their engaged...
still early though i hope they can fix that
still early though i hope they can fix that
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Behindshadows @ 04/24/09 07:02 AM
It was a trailer of replays and close ups, I don't see how many people can be impressed with that. It's not gameplay with playbook calling and things like that.
Yet! Majority of this thread is turning everything into a compare to APF or 2k5 thread ever other post. I mean wow! Your trying to compared a 2 minute clip to 2 full versions of another game including your posting gameplay videos of the other games, compared to cutscenes.
People seriously stop comparing this game every damn year to 2k5! And enough of the APF videos we get it, 2k does great animations and then again not all of them were great in APF.
2 mins of cutscenes doesn't scream bad game. It's a trailer! Nothing more or less, we see **** trailers of movies all the time. And when you see the full film the movie is great.
Trailer was ho ha at best, nothing great!
Yet! Majority of this thread is turning everything into a compare to APF or 2k5 thread ever other post. I mean wow! Your trying to compared a 2 minute clip to 2 full versions of another game including your posting gameplay videos of the other games, compared to cutscenes.
People seriously stop comparing this game every damn year to 2k5! And enough of the APF videos we get it, 2k does great animations and then again not all of them were great in APF.
2 mins of cutscenes doesn't scream bad game. It's a trailer! Nothing more or less, we see **** trailers of movies all the time. And when you see the full film the movie is great.
Trailer was ho ha at best, nothing great!
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