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Old 01-03-2009, 12:20 AM   #33
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Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

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The 1A opponents' winning % and scoring margins:

Utah: .517 and 240 (including the bowl)
Florida: .621 and 369 (including SECCG)
OU: .636 and 328 (including BigXIICG)

Those are some pretty big gaps
Florida's winning % is helped by the SEC who plays no one out of conference. OU did play a much better schedule.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:24 AM   #34
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Yes.
They did? Which conference teams on Boise State's schedule are comparable to BYU and TCU?

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Had the Oregon fiasco not occurred, they would have been ranked in the same place as Alabama. As it is, they finished #11, and Alabama will finish 7-9.
And...you didn't really answer the question. Odd, since I do remember you saying quite a while ago that '06 Oklahoma "was among one of the worst BCS teams ever." I think the difference here is that Boise State won in remarkable, comeback fashion against Oklahoma. Utah absolutely buried Alabama from the start.

Comparing '08 'Bama's schedule to '06 Chokie's schedule, Chokie's best win was against...Nebraska and didn't even have a win against a 10 win team. 'Bama rolled Georgia and beat Ole Miss. Not even a comparison here.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:25 AM   #35
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Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Where this system fails is the ignorance by the voters who select the BCS teams. Utah should have been #1 in the Coaches and AP vote for finishing undeated with their schedule prior to this point. Blindly looking at it, they beat the the #11 and #16 teams in the country, they beat the same #25 Oregon State team that beat USC (really, we need to take injuries into account for the Oregon debacle), and won a game @ Michigan early in the season. That's a legit #1 team regardless of conference affiliation if that's what the numbers say. If Utah had been #1 in the Coaches and/or Harris Poll, with the computer rankings, would they be playing in the MNC game? I'd have to believe so.
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Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

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Florida's winning % is helped by the SEC who plays no one out of conference. OU did play a much better schedule.
if OU wins their bowl game, they will be the "national champions", yet the 3rd best team in the country imo, with the 3rd best case for NC...behind #1 Utah and #2 Texas if Texas happens to win their game.

yea I know OU will be voted #1 if they win, but they shouldnt be.
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if OU wins their bowl game, they will be the "national champions", yet the 3rd best team in the country imo, with the 3rd best case for NC...behind #1 Utah and #2 Texas if Texas happens to win their game.

yea I know OU will be voted #1 if they win, but they shouldnt be.
I agree with you completely on this one.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:30 AM   #38
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Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

Most definitely deserve it...they deserve it straight up, but that will never happen of course..and neither will a split
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:32 AM   #39
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Re: Does Utah deserve a chance at a split MNC?

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Great stats. Please clarify, the scoring margin is points scored-points given up? Just wanted to make sure.
Yes.

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Florida's winning % is helped by the SEC who plays no one out of conference. OU did play a much better schedule.
Florida will have played 11 bowl teams and 5 ranked teams while Utah will have played 6 bowl teams and 4 ranked teams.

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They did?
Yes. Oregon St was in the same position in 2008 as they were in 2006, and Hawaii won 11 games. They played nearly identical schedules.

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Odd, since I do remember you saying quite a while ago that '06 Oklahoma "was among one of the worst BCS teams ever."
I don't think I would say that Oklahoma was worse than the ACC , Notre Dame, Big 10, and Big East teams of late. That seems uncharacteristic of me.

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If Utah had been #1 in the Coaches and/or Harris Poll, with the computer rankings, would they be playing in the MNC game?
It would depend on the margins and who was #2 and #3.

If you mean just sticking them ahead of OU and Florida with OU and Florida keeping the same margins, then yes, they would have been in the game.

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Old 01-03-2009, 12:34 AM   #40
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I don't see why the AP WOULDN'T put Utah number one. They might as well create some controversey since the BCS is what "matters". Get your product talked about and in the press.
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