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Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

MLB 09: The Show has been out for over a month, and many baseball gaming enthusiasts have hailed the game as the best baseball video game ever. As a baseball elitist myself, there is no denying that the game is extremely impressive.

It has been five solid years since I have enjoyed a baseball game as much as this year's iteration of The Show. Because of this enjoyment level, I have found myself glued to my PS3 cultivating my Road to the Show career and running a somewhat successful Detroit Tigers dynasty.

Still, as with most sports games, the more time I have been able to spend with The Show, the more nagging issues I have run into. These issues have left me yearning for something more from a baseball title, something only MVP Baseball 05 was ever able to satisfy. Of course, MVP 05 is still held in high regards throughout the virtual baseball community, and is still being played religiously on both PC and consoles because of a very active modding community.

The point is, while The Show is a fantastic effort, it is still lagging behind MVP 05 in three very key areas. But, with a few small improvements to the 2010 version of The Show, MVP 05 can perhaps be retired for good.


One thing MVP still does better is the hitting.

Batting


MVP 05's Hitter's Eye and left stick influence mechanics were the best additions to video game baseball hitting ever. As someone who played high-level baseball, I can really appreciate just how well MVP implemented both of these mechanics into their final MLB title. The Show's guess pitch feature, coupled with the zone- and timing-based hitting schemes are adequate, but for seasoned MVP veterans, it feels as if crucial control is being taken out of your hands while at the plate.

Hitter's Eye vs. Guess Pitch

MVP's Hitter's Eye was a complete stroke of genius. Anyone that knows a lick about real-life hitting knows that the key to being successful is picking up the ball the moment it becomes visible. This technique is so crucial that pitchers have been taught to vary release points and arm angles in an attempt to hide the ball a fraction of a second longer from a hitter.

The Hitter's Eye picked up on this technique, giving pitchers who were more successful at hiding the ball in real life the ability to defy the Hitter's Eye within the game. Simply put, the Hitter's Eye added a critical layer to the pitcher/batter showdown that made for one of the most realistic batting experiences ever.

The Show 09's guess pitch feature poorly attempts to replicate hitting in the sport of baseball. For a title that prides itself on realism and authenticity, it boggles my mind why this feature makes it into the series year in and year out. There is no doubt that Major League batters may take a certain approach at the plate or sit on a pitch, but by no means do they ever "guess" as to what pitch is going to be thrown to them.

Hitting is about reading a pitch off the pitcher's hand and reacting accordingly. Even if Derek Jeter goes to the plate with the mindset of sitting on a fastball, he is not going to simply guess fastball, mentally lock into seeing a fastball, and then get some type of feedback that he guessed correctly as soon as the pitcher begins his wind-up. Guess pitch fails miserably to replicate actual hitting in baseball, and it has no place in baseball games released in 2009.

Left Stick Influence vs. Zone Hitting/PCI

What could be the most frustrating aspect of MLB 09's batting system is its zone hitting scheme. Just as the Hitter's Eye did, MVP 05's left stick hitting system raised the bar for video game hitting systems to another level. The beauty of the MVP left-stick system was that it accurately simulated a batter's arm extension and height through the hitting zone, which allowed you to influence your hit type.

In real life, proper hitting in the zone is all about timing and arm extension/retraction -- you pull the inside pitch and you go the other way with the outside pitch. If you were being pounded inside in MVP, you simply pulled your arms in by moving the left stick in the respective direction. If you wanted to take an outside pitch the other way, you aimed that way with the left stick and swung away. You did the same thing when trying to hit fly balls (pushed up on the stick) and ground balls (pushed down on the stick). You could also mix in a variety of directions for complete hitting freedom -- up and left for a righty on the left stick was equivalent to a fly ball to the left side of the field. What made this system even better was how organic it felt on the field; the game forced you to go with the pitch that was thrown to you, which meant no pulling outside pitches for moonshot home runs.

The big problem with The Show 09's zone based/PCI hitting scheme is that it does not feel like you have true 1:1 control over your batter's arm extension through the zone. The system seems almost entirely dependent on the timing of your swing to be successful, even on the higher difficulties. My issue with this approach to a hitting system is that control has been taken away from the user, a huge no no to me in sports games. I understand that the PCI is meant to act as a cursor-based hitting system, but it just does not work as fluidly as MVP's system.

I have not even mentioned that PCI is rendered almost completely useless because of the lack of depth perception that is factored into the trajectory of the pitch. For some reason, it is extremely difficult to pick up the break on a slider or 12-6 curve because of a lack of depth on the Y-axis. This may just be personal preference, but every pitch you face while batting seems to be thrown too straight in its trajectory. The resulting feeling does not feel natural, especially on breaking pitches low in the zone. The longer you play the game, the more you start to realize that by the time you are able to adjust your PCI, the pitch has been thrown past you. After three games in my franchise, I realized it was absolutely worthless to even use PCI because I was having far more success simply timing pitches that are grooved down the heart of the plate.

Complete Batting Failure

My biggest gripe with The Show's hitting system -- and something that makes absolutely no sense to me at all -- is that your fly ball, ground ball, pull and push influence is tied to the right stick. At what point did this decision make sense to SCE Studios San Diego?

This is just another aspect of hitting in The Show that takes control away from the user and creates a disconnect when at the dish. If I am a right-handed hitter and want to dig in to push an inside pitch to the right side of the infield, I should be able to do so. The way the hitting system is currently set up, you would have to guess that the pitch was going to be inside, and then before the pitch is thrown use your right stick to take the ball to the right side of the infield.

Sorry SCE, but that is just silly. I should be able to react to the pitch as it is being thrown to me, and if it is inside, be able to pull my hands closer to my body and push the ball to the right side of the infield.

SCE's hitting system feels too complicated for its own good and needs to get back to the "read and react" simplicity that made hitting in MVP feel so natural.

Base Running

Much like hitting, MVP 05's PiP base-running mechanic and analog slides were the the pinnacle of baseball running controls. Not since the days of RBI Baseball had gamers been able to advance around the diamond with such ease. Base running in MLB 09 is by far the game's weakest element.

Navigating the bases feels exceedingly clunky, often times leading to a human-controlled team literally giving outs to the CPU after the ball is put in play. As if the control scheme was not awkward enough, SCE throws in analog steals that borrow heavily from MVP but stops short of re-creating the magic EA's title was able to convey.

MVP 05 introduced one of the most simple and most effective running systems ever. By simply pressing the corresponding face button of the player you wanted to activate, you could advance and retreat players with ease. It was always extremely easy to identify the runner you wanted to control on the fly, and never in five years of dedicated playing did I ever mistakenly advance a runner I did not want to.

The steal system in MVP was also very user friendly, even if it utilized the same basic shoulder button lead mechanics that games had been using for years. Sliding via the analog stick in MVP was also extremely responsive, allowing you to perform six different slides to each base. Picking the correct slide for the correct situation was simple, and it created some highlight-reel moments at second, third and home. Best of all was the fact that you could break up double plays by going in cleats up or purposely sliding outside the basepath.

After playing MVP and appreciating just how good the game plays on the basepaths, The Show 09's controls are downright brutal. Attempting to select a player and advance him individually when the ball is put in play is unnecessarily complicated. The game requires you to contort your fingers between the right-analog stick, face buttons and triggers, while reacting on the fly. The result is an absolute mess. Add in an analog stick slide system that is extremely unresponsive, and you have an aspect of The Show that SCE Studios needs to completely reprogram.

I cannot be the only one wishing that the studio would just do everyone a favor and implement MVP's base-running system button for button. When a sports game establishes such a good precedent, there is nothing wrong with imitation.


Dynasty/Owner Mode

While MVP integrated both a fully fleshed out dynasty mode and owner mode, The Show presents us with a jumbled mess in its hybrid dynasty/owner mode offering.

Anyone who has ever played MVP 05’s owner mode understands just how deep it was. It was the first video game I have ever played that actually made you pay attention to your respective roster moves and player signings because every decision you made affected your financial bottom line. For the first time ever in a baseball game, you were able to forge a financial identity.

The game allowed you to run your club's finances the way you wanted to, even allowing you to build and upgrade a personalized stadium if you wanted to go that route -- I still miss Hank Scorpio Field. Everything in MVP 05’s owner mode revolved around building a winner, getting more fans, increasing income and then spending it however you deemed worthy. It was absolute bliss. All these elements, plus the menu navigation, player management and finance management were all extremely streamlined and user-friendly.

One of the main issues I have with The Show's dynasty mode is that while it implements aspects of both dynasty and owner modes, the complete package does not implement either mode extremely well. It is almost as if the developers were not quite sure what they wanted to do with franchise, so they created a super deep roster and transaction system and then patched a bunch of typical franchise and owner mode aspects to it (team bus anyone?).

The menus also are not streamlined, it is difficult to figure out how to manage your players, and why is my team always complaining that there is not a jacuzzi in the training room?

The Show 09’s franchise mode also fails because money has absolutely no meaning. Is your franchise struggling and in need of an expensive free agent? No problem, go take a loan out from the bank. There are absolutely no consequences for spending like the Yankees in the game, even if you are the Nationals. If there is anything to be learned from today’s real world sports economy, it is that there are spenders and small-market teams. MVP forced you to be careful with your spending or face complete economic failure. In fact, owner mode actually ended if you spent too many years in the red -- there were no government bailouts in MVP baseball in 2004, capitalism was alive and well.

I can see how this would not bother many gamers, and I will admit that it is not a game breaker, but after playing 10-plus years of MVP 05 owner mode, The Show’s franchise mode feels extremely shallow.


With all that has been said in this article, I think it is important to note that I feel The Show 09 is a very solid title. The game is my front runner for game of the year. And, if the game makes the changes I outlined above, it may finally be time to lacquer my copy of MVP 05 on a plaque and hang it next to my wedding picture.

2009 is a great year to be a baseball gamer, but 2004 was even better. As the Dropkick Murphys pointed out in the opening track of EA’s hardball gem, "Tessie is the royal ruler." There is no doubt in my mind that "Tessie" is synonymous with MVP 05.


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Member Comments
# 141 bkrich83 @ 05/10/09 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SFGiantsPBA
I think High Heat 2001, 2002 and 2003 was a better game then MVP but MVP added innovation to Baseball and for OP to call High Heat an arcade game is just wrong MVP was way more on the Arcade side of things then High Heat was.

I always thought of The Show as the best of the 2 games High Heat type of Sim with MVP Meters and such.

Anyone that knows anything about baseball will tell you nothing comes close to it like The Show and The Show is the only game that makes me see things on a real MLB game and say that's just like The Show.

I have been playing baseball games since I was a child and I'm 40 now and no game have I played was so Sim like the real thing as The Show none.

I see the same things happen every day on TV that happen in the Show but MVP didn't give me that.

MVP was a real fun time and I ran leagues with that game all year round with every MLB Version and had a blast but it don't even come close to The Show.

High Heat arcade my ***!
Completely agree with all points.
 
# 142 SFGiantsPBA @ 05/11/09 12:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkrich83
Completely agree with all points.
Thanks, anyone that knows anything about the games of this past decade knows nothing touched High Heat in it's era and no game played sim but High Heat and all the rest I mean all the rest where all arcade type games.

MVP was EA's attempt to get more sim an away from the total arcade Triple Play brought.

So when I read simple things like High Heat being arcade and hitting and pitching better in MVP then The Show I read from someone that really doesn't know WTF he is talking about.
 
# 143 Yankees_CT @ 05/11/09 08:51 AM
This article blew my mind, MVP better then the show...and in hitting of all things!!! People really need to move on from MVP. I have the game, the PC game and I utilize all the tools at MVPmods and it still does not come close to the Show on any level. It was a great game for it's time and for people who do not like spending money on videogames every year, it is great that the community is keeping it fresh but to try and compare with the Show is insane. This, sorry, fanboy article should be in the MVP forum so everyone there can agree and mark out to it. Again, I was a big fan and still am of MVP but C'MON!!!
 
# 144 k_bassuka @ 05/11/09 10:57 AM
[quote=SFGiantsPBA;2039550806]
I see the same things happen every day on TV that happen in the Show but MVP didn't give me that.
quote]

I never seen a fielder let the ball go through his legs for no with out even trying to catch the ball and not even call it an error, or a team go over a week without commiting an error, or base runners allow to advance to 2nd on a throw to cutoff 100% of the time, or low and outside balls being pull for monster HR, or left handed 1B play error less games at any other IF position, and many more unrealistic features on the MOST REALISTIC GAME EVER (what a joke).

Over 90 games and still haven't play a 1-0 or 2-1 game yet or struck out more than 3 times in a game or walk more than 3 batters in a game, and that's on Legend but "that happens all the time in baseball". I turned the human contact and power to 0 and still my team is hitting over .350 and I have 3 players over 50 HR and all of them over 15, just like in MLB.

Just because this game is good for you (or you are not that good to beat the dumb CPU in the show) doesn't mean that is going to be the same for everyone else, I'm glad you and many others are getting your money's worth for some of us this game has too many unrealistic things tend to be repetitive and the big problem is that most of those issues were found since 07 and still they haven't attempt to fix them, too me that makes this game just good at best, and no I'm not going to play MVP 05 and I may give this game another try latter on but for now I'm putting this game away.

I believe that the Moderators were the ones that put this article in this thread, so bashing on the guy that wrote the article is not going to make it go away, if anything complain to the ones that place it here the Moderators.
 
# 145 ehh @ 05/11/09 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Acedeck
The hitting in MVP allowed you to control how you wanted to push/pull various pitches, but didn't allow you to aim where you wanted to swing. The same counter-argument could be made that it didn't allow precision with your swing, since controlling *where* you swing is equally as important as controlling how you swing.

MVP allowed you to uppercut, swing down, swing level, and push/pull pitches. It didn't let you actually aim where your bat swung. That's a huge fault in a swinging system, in my humble opinion. I'm not saying The Show gives you 100% control of your swing. I'm simply stating my point that MVP by no means contained 100% control, like the OP seems to imply.
Actually it did let you aim your swing, that's a huge misconception with MVP. I've hit moon shot home runs while pressing down-and-away on the joystick and hitting a low-n-away curveball. I've pulled outside pitches for homers by pressing the stick to the right with a right-handed batter. Even read the instruction booklet, IIRC it tells you that's how the swing system works.

IMO the only downsides to MVP's hitting are:

1) Too easy to make contact
2) Can't hit pitches outside of the strike zone
3) Hit variety could be better but it's not bad (at least there are more doubles and triples than MLB '09)
 
# 146 Knight165 @ 05/11/09 11:49 AM
[quote=k_bassuka;2039551829]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFGiantsPBA
I see the same things happen every day on TV that happen in the Show but MVP didn't give me that.
quote]

I never seen a fielder let the ball go through his legs for no with out even trying to catch the ball and not even call it an error, or a team go over a week without commiting an error, or base runners allow to advance to 2nd on a throw to cutoff 100% of the time, or low and outside balls being pull for monster HR, or left handed 1B play error less games at any other IF position, and many more unrealistic features on the MOST REALISTIC GAME EVER (what a joke).

Over 90 games and still haven't play a 1-0 or 2-1 game yet or struck out more than 3 times in a game or walk more than 3 batters in a game, and that's on Legend but "that happens all the time in baseball". I turned the human contact and power to 0 and still my team is hitting over .350 and I have 3 players over 50 HR and all of them over 15, just like in MLB.

Just because this game is good for you (or you are not that good to beat the dumb CPU in the show) doesn't mean that is going to be the same for everyone else, I'm glad you and many others are getting your money's worth for some of us this game has too many unrealistic things tend to be repetitive and the big problem is that most of those issues were found since 07 and still they haven't attempt to fix them, too me that makes this game just good at best, and no I'm not going to play MVP 05 and I may give this game another try latter on but for now I'm putting this game away.

I believe that the Moderators were the ones that put this article in this thread, so bashing on the guy that wrote the article is not going to make it go away, if anything complain to the ones that place it here the Moderators.
Wah!

Here are the three things that MVP does better.
1.It's on PC
2.It has an editor that works on a PC and...umm...hmm....
3. The fielding...the glorious fielding...the best fielding...THE FIELDING RULES IN MVP are you BLIND!!
(oh...forget that pre-fielding the pitching BLOWS!...yawn...rock back..throw a strike top right corner...rock back...throw a strike lower left corner....oh...I need to throw a ball...let me close my eyes and hold the controller with my feet!)
...but let's not get carried away.

Yes....there are parts of this game that need attention.....nobody is or can deny that....and in that context I guess this article is a nice diversion and a good read.

M.K.
Knight165
 
# 147 SoxFan01605 @ 05/11/09 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by steelcurtain311
If you make a thread saying MVP still does things better than the Show, what is the end result going to be? MVP vs. MLB arguments. Period. If someone didn't want that, this thread should of been closed immediately.

It is a privilege to post with devs, but I don't get it, they want just want to hear the positives? We're not supposed to give any criticism or like any games better than the Show or else we get banned? Why bother being on the forums then?

I think we're all perfectly mature enough to talk about MVP vs. The Show positives and negatives, or at least I would hope so.
lol...Apparently not.

The issue isn't discussing The Show's positives and negatives, it's a matter of context. This "article" was factually inaccurate and clearly slanted. That's fine, it is an opinion piece, and they certainly have their place. It's the subtext by both the writer and other MVP fans (after some facts were sorted out by the developer) that is problematic.

The trouble with posting it here is that it goes 100% against the rules we were all told to follow about pitting one game against another. Straight comparison is one thing, but when you misrepresent facts in those comparisons, it becomes a pointless debate, and of course it will draw negativity...which I thought was kind of the point of those rules in the first place.

This whole thing is laced with double standards, hypocrasy and, more on-topic, opinions masquerading as fact. And yes, I recognize that there is some blind loyalty in here for The Show as well...that's to be expected though, given the forum...lol.

So yes, we should be able to discuss positives and negatives. It should be, however, in proper context and without blind loyalty and nostalgia for a completely different product.

EDIT: And BTW, as I said much earlier, none of that is a knock on writer himself. I enjoy opinion pieces whether I agree or not (and it was relatively well written too). It's just the way that opinions somehow got misconstrued as fact, that is an issue (again, my opinion).

Plus, as others have said countless times...if this was "Three Things The Show Does Better than 2K9" or vice-versa in each game's respective forum, the poster would have his thread locked and probably be carded...lol
 
# 148 SoxFan01605 @ 05/11/09 02:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by steelcurtain311
I know what you mean, the article was a bunch of crap for the most part. Some of it was true, but most of it was just "fanboyism" at its finest. But then again, look where we're posting at. While other people exaggerate the greatness of past games like MVP, plenty of people do the same with the Show here, and they surely aren't going to get their threads closed for it.
lol...I actually edited my post to cover that right before you posted this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoxFan01605
And yes, I recognize that there is some blind loyalty in here for The Show as well...that's to be expected though, given the forum...lol.
Anyway, I agree to an extent. The truth of the matter is though, ANY thread that any of us create pitting one game against another, REGARDLESS of the forum, has gotten locked eventually. Heck, there was even a rules reminder type thread posted by the mods to try and curb there creation. There are some things best left alone, IMO.

The point is, this could have easlily been avoided with either:

A. a little bit of foresight.

B. some moderation

C. Bot A and B...lol.

It should have been posted in the MVP forum and then you avoid all of this silliness. Then, if Show "fanboys" go into the MVP thread to stir stuff up (as some MVP fans have done here), you handle that accordingly (like what should have been done here).
 
# 149 SFGiantsPBA @ 05/11/09 03:59 PM
[quote=Knight165;2039552027]
Quote:
Originally Posted by k_bassuka

Wah!

Here are the three things that MVP does better.
1.It's on PC
2.It has an editor that works on a PC and...umm...hmm....
3. The fielding...the glorious fielding...the best fielding...THE FIELDING RULES IN MVP are you BLIND!!
(oh...forget that pre-fielding the pitching BLOWS!...yawn...rock back..throw a strike top right corner...rock back...throw a strike lower left corner....oh...I need to throw a ball...let me close my eyes and hold the controller with my feet!)
...but let's not get carried away.

Yes....there are parts of this game that need attention.....nobody is or can deny that....and in that context I guess this article is a nice diversion and a good read.

M.K.
Knight165
Yeah I know I don't get these guys may be they have only played MVP and can't figure out The Show and WTF calling High Heat arcade that pure stupidity.

Compared to The Show yeah High Heat is more on the arcade side but go back in time and High Heat was the only sim game out there and IMO MVP being fun as hell was not sim but a new era of a game and High Heat had gone away with the death of 3D0 then that repeated as MVP died and The Show stepped up.

This article is like saying my 2004 Sanyo CRT flat screen is better then my 2009 Sony XBR LCD.
 
# 150 ianlast @ 05/11/09 06:44 PM
I can't be the first one who noticed this; the lyrics to "Tessie" make no mention of "royal ruler".

"Tessie was the royal rooters rally cry
Tessie was the tune they always sung"

Great article, but that last part was face-palm worthy.
 
# 151 bkrich83 @ 05/11/09 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by k_bassuka
I never seen a fielder let the ball go through his legs for no with out even trying to catch the ball and not even call it an error, or a team go over a week without commiting an error, or base runners allow to advance to 2nd on a throw to cutoff 100% of the time, or low and outside balls being pull for monster HR, or left handed 1B play error less games at any other IF position, and many more unrealistic features on the MOST REALISTIC GAME EVER (what a joke).

Over 90 games and still haven't play a 1-0 or 2-1 game yet or struck out more than 3 times in a game or walk more than 3 batters in a game, and that's on Legend but "that happens all the time in baseball". I turned the human contact and power to 0 and still my team is hitting over .350 and I have 3 players over 50 HR and all of them over 15, just like in MLB.
 
# 152 pfunk880 @ 05/11/09 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ianlast
I can't be the first one who noticed this; the lyrics to "Tessie" make no mention of "royal ruler".

"Tessie was the royal rooters rally cry
Tessie was the tune they always sung"

Great article, but that last part was face-palm worthy.
Haha, I noticed that too earlier today, and it looked funny to me, but I couldn't recall with certainty if it was wrong or not.

BK, I will also call shenanigans. I have played four games so far: an 8-6 win (with six combined homers), a 2-1 win (scored an an excuse me swing back towards the pitcher that essentially ended up being a squeeze), a 10-1 loss, and a 7-6 win (scored two in the ninth against the closer). Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'm seeing plenty of realism and variety. Most importantly, I'm having fun.

I had some fun games on MVP too, but none that I can remember were as good as the one I just played on The Show.
 
# 153 Ruffy @ 05/12/09 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bkrich83
Gotta agree with that!

I love the guys that say the game sucks soo bad! But hey I have 90 games played and by the way im the best...on legend.

If i have a game that sucks....i don't play it. I trade it in right away or hold on to it and hope for a game saving patch (err Socom Confrontation).

My problem with OS sometimes is that some content is not an "article" its an opinion piece....which is fine...label it as such!
 
# 154 pfunk880 @ 05/12/09 02:07 AM
For the record, the more I'm playing with The Show's hitting system, the more I love it. IMO, it feels so much more rewarding and realistic.
 
# 155 bkrich83 @ 05/12/09 03:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffy
Gotta agree with that!

I love the guys that say the game sucks soo bad! But hey I have 90 games played and by the way im the best...on legend.

If i have a game that sucks....i don't play it. I trade it in right away or hold on to it and hope for a game saving patch (err Socom Confrontation).

My problem with OS sometimes is that some content is not an "article" its an opinion piece....which is fine...label it as such!
Not to mention I have a hard time believing on legend with hitting sliders at zero, he's hitting .350 as a team with several guys over 50 HR's. and the entire team over 15 HR's He's never struck out more than 3 times in a game, and has never had a 2-1 or 1-0 ball game.

Just doesn't add up..
 
# 156 SFGiantsPBA @ 05/12/09 04:51 AM
[quote=k_bassuka;2039551829]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SFGiantsPBA
I see the same things happen every day on TV that happen in the Show but MVP didn't give me that.
quote]

I never seen a fielder let the ball go through his legs for no with out even trying to catch the ball and not even call it an error, or a team go over a week without commiting an error, or base runners allow to advance to 2nd on a throw to cutoff 100% of the time, or low and outside balls being pull for monster HR, or left handed 1B play error less games at any other IF position, and many more unrealistic features on the MOST REALISTIC GAME EVER (what a joke).

Over 90 games and still haven't play a 1-0 or 2-1 game yet or struck out more than 3 times in a game or walk more than 3 batters in a game, and that's on Legend but "that happens all the time in baseball". I turned the human contact and power to 0 and still my team is hitting over .350 and I have 3 players over 50 HR and all of them over 15, just like in MLB.

Just because this game is good for you (or you are not that good to beat the dumb CPU in the show) doesn't mean that is going to be the same for everyone else, I'm glad you and many others are getting your money's worth for some of us this game has too many unrealistic things tend to be repetitive and the big problem is that most of those issues were found since 07 and still they haven't attempt to fix them, too me that makes this game just good at best, and no I'm not going to play MVP 05 and I may give this game another try latter on but for now I'm putting this game away.

I believe that the Moderators were the ones that put this article in this thread, so bashing on the guy that wrote the article is not going to make it go away, if anything complain to the ones that place it here the Moderators.
I smell Bull****!
 
# 157 k_bassuka @ 05/12/09 09:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffy
Gotta agree with that!

I love the guys that say the game sucks soo bad! But hey I have 90 games played and by the way im the best...on legend.
That's because I love baseball and there's not another game out there I can play, like I mention earlier I'm not going to play MVP and it took me that many games to finally put the half show to rest.

Quote:
Not to mention I have a hard time believing on legend with hitting sliders at zero, he's hitting .350 as a team with several guys over 50 HR's. and the entire team over 15 HR's He's never struck out more than 3 times in a game, and has never had a 2-1 or 1-0 ball game.

Just doesn't add up..
Quote:
I smell Bull****!
Why not? Let me guess, because you play on all-star and still s*** at it.
 
# 158 nyisles16 @ 05/12/09 10:47 AM
Closing.. Discussion went way off track
 


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