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Can I Have my Money Back?

As daylight savings kicks in and the snow begins to melt it's starting to become evident that spring is in the air. And what comes with spring? Baseball. Unfortunately being an XBOX 360 owner leaves me few options when it comes to choosing a baseball game. In fact it leaves me with just one option: MLB 2K8.

Living in a city (Pittsburgh) which has woefully attempted to field a winning team for last 15 seasons has made my love for the game of baseball dwindle; not to mention everything else that has gone on with the sport in the last decade and a half. Still, every spring I get an itch, and it's not pollen related. The itch is for some digital baseball on my console.

Last year was the first year I spent with the 2K series, and while I enjoyed it enough to make it through a whole 162 game season, plus playoffs, I knew it could have been better. This is what I was hoping for when I recently started getting geared up for the newest rendition. This is not what I got at all, however.

Upon firing up the game for the first time I quickly realized that something was, well boring. I cannot think of a better way of saying that. The front end is lousy and dull, and everything presentation wise is more or less exactly the same as last year. Aesthetically speaking, I began to feel like I had just paid sixty dollars for a roster update, even though I still had to wait until Opening Day to download an up to date roster.

Commentary was exactly the same, especially after all those games I played last year. Honestly, how many times do I need to hear about, "PFP, Pitchers Fielding Practice", Joe Morgan?

Where is the groundbreaking presentation that placed 2K games above the bar for so many years? Replays and cut screens looked the same, well almost; there was that renowned stuttering issue to enjoy. In addition, animations and every other little nuance was pretty much exactly where I left it at the end of last summer. What a disappointment. How can I possibly be inspired to keep playing a game that got old seven or eight months ago?

Then I began to start disliking features that I liked in the previous year's game. The lineup card you can bring up during the pitcher batter interface was still there, but the writing was so small it was hard to read even when zoomed in. I am gaming on a 42-inch plasma, I should be able to read this stuff; I am still a relatively young guy here!

The one feature I really do like happens to be the 2K beats. This is where you can import any music you like, even streaming from your computer, to the game and have it play for all kinds of circumstances. This should be in every game!

That alone was the bright spot I found though. The game itself played mostly better as the new controls were inventive, and fun. Pitching takes too long to keep me interested though. It's a neat idea it just needs to be tightened up. Waiting for the catcher to give the sign and set up takes a little too long, and then just the act of pitching is pretty drawn out itself.

There is a better variety of hits which is nice, along with the new fielding mechanic being sound.

At the end of the day, however, all the new game mechanics can not make up for what this game lacks. The atmosphere is dull; graphics look bland; player models have taken a step back, physics are pretty weak again; and the overall experience was just lame. Even the lighting and weather just downright atrocious. And this isn’t even getting into all the bugs and problems I have encountered personally, or ones members in the forums have been complaining about. I'm talking about issues that have ranged from games freezing to gameplay errors and mishaps. It's exactly the type of problems I don't want out of a game that has no competition.

Maybe you can play this if you really love baseball and put in the time to tweak the sliders post-patch, I cannot though. Knowing that other games, like GTA, are coming out next month I don't see any reason to try and force myself to like this game.

It is just a boring game. A game I had already mastered last year; a game that I expected so much more out of; and mostly, a game that will sit on my shelf no matter what happens with baseball in this town.

Can I have my money back 2K?


Member Comments
# 81 bigfnjoe96 @ 03/20/08 08:50 PM
It's funny that many claim this game to be broken, yet my copy outside of some choppiness plays a helluva baseball game... Go figure
 
# 82 CMH @ 03/20/08 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bkrich83
Where exactly did I put anyone down?

Nor is the game particularly smooth at the batter/pitcher interface for me, and I have a hard time believing it plays a steady 30 FPS on the field.

I agree it's a much improved game. And if a framerate fix can be found, I think it would be an even better game.
My bad, I specifically said the crashers because I wasn't talking about you. I just posted you because you asked a general question that got me into extending the answer.
 
# 83 bkrich83 @ 03/20/08 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Amazin
I do not want to turn this into The Show vs 2K8 but something that really bothers me is how I hear how realistic the animations are in The Show, yes they look great but do you ever get the feeling like your hardly ever actually controlling the players and the Player Models are not in any way better than 2K8, but enough of that back on topic.
Disagree on the player models. Graphics are in the eye of the beholder imo, but to me 2k8 players look sort of cartoony. Especially when compared to last year.

I have no problems with the fielding in The Show, but I prefer the fielding in 2k8. I think fielding is the one portion of the game where 2k8 outshines The Show.
 
# 84 bkrich83 @ 03/20/08 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by YankeePride
My bad, I specifically said the crashers because I wasn't talking about you. I just posted you because you asked a general question that got me into extending the answer.
Gotcha. No worries.
 
# 85 Amazin @ 03/20/08 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfnjoe96
It's funny that many claim this game to be broken, yet my copy outside of some choppiness plays a helluva baseball game... Go figure
Completely agree and about the player models in The Show with there short wide shouldered bodies for every player certainly isn't helping but again I enjoy both games I just prefer 2K8 because of gameplay.
 
# 86 longshadow11 @ 03/20/08 08:56 PM
2K seems to have achieved their primary goal: to keep EA from making baseball games. Bravo, 2K. We lost what is to some the best game(MVP) and in its place is the bumblin', stumblin' MLB2K series.

Every time I pop in MLB2K, I long for the days of MVP and All-Star. It's like ****** three girls and you end up with the one you really didn't want in the first place.
 
# 87 Rainey @ 03/20/08 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfnjoe96
It's funny that many claim this game to be broken, yet my copy outside of some choppiness plays a helluva baseball game... Go figure
Some choppiness? I had worse choppiness than what MVP 05 on the PC had before the patch. I'm not even a graphic's guy (I still play old school games all the time), but comeon it is just annoying to see.
 
# 88 bigfnjoe96 @ 03/20/08 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainey
Some choppiness? I had worse choppiness than what MVP 05 on the PC had before the patch. I'm not even a graphic's guy (I still play old school games all the time), but comeon it is just annoying to see.
Yes it's annoying, but you can't tell me it's worst than 2k7, because it's not
 
# 89 CMH @ 03/20/08 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Rainey
30 fps on the field? No way man. It might average out around that number, but it is extremely choppy.
Just not happening to me on my end.

I see choppiness after the play. I see minor stuttering during a play. Never had a problem fielding the ball.
 
# 90 bkrich83 @ 03/20/08 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by YankeePride
Just not happening to me on my end.

I see choppiness after the play. I see minor stuttering during a play. Never had a problem fielding the ball.
It's still pretty choppy for me on the field of play. Which I could probably live with more, if it was more constant. It's really all over the place as far as framerate in my experience. It could just be me.
 
# 91 Rainey @ 03/20/08 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigfnjoe96
Yes it's annoying, but you can't tell me it's worst than 2k7, because it's not
2k7 never had stuttering in the field for me. I played that game like 100000 times, so maybe I just ignored it I don't know. I remember the patch added a new camera view that was kinda laggy, but I stuck to the original and never had choppiness in the field.
 
# 92 CMH @ 03/20/08 09:07 PM
It's more choppy than 2k7. I'm not saying the game is smooth on the field. 30 fps might be wrong, I give you that.

But it's just not choppy enough to really bother me. I still understand why it would bother people.

I would never argue with anyone that says they can't play the game because of the frame rate. It's understanding if it's irritating.
 
# 93 Rainey @ 03/20/08 09:10 PM
If a patch fix's the choppiness let me know... and I'm coming back. That card feature seemed really interesting.
 
# 94 CS10029 @ 03/20/08 09:14 PM
I log out of my profile so I don't know about the frame rate issues. Hahaha.
 
# 95 bkrich83 @ 03/20/08 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CS10029
I log out of my profile so I don't know about the frame rate issues. Hahaha.
Shouldn't have to do that. Not to mention that defeats the ability to use the highly touted card collecting feature which I do enjoy. Even then, framerate hits are noticeable.
 
# 96 roadman @ 03/20/08 09:36 PM
I can only compare 2k8 with 2k7 and it's not even close. Gameplay wise, 2k8 blows 2k7 out of the water.

I'm still playing on SDTV, so, I don't have any stuttering, choppiness, what others are experiencing.

I knew about the commentary before I purchased the game.
 
# 97 CMH @ 03/20/08 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by miamimarlins1
It's like people try so hard to like this game and discount anyone that speaks the truth.
You seem to be the one trying harder to get people that like the game to not like it.
 
# 98 BSanders @ 03/20/08 10:26 PM
It's all a personal opinion... I myself didn't enjoy this years version of 2k baseball but does it make it bad for all, nope.
 
# 99 bowlerguy92 @ 03/20/08 11:02 PM
Pretty sure Patrick shouldn't be working at OS.........
 
# 100 bkrich83 @ 03/20/08 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bowlerguy92
Pretty sure Patrick shouldn't be working at OS.........
Because his opinion differs from yours?
 


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