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Madden NFL 09 Preview (PS3)
Ah yes, Madden, the game I was most eager to get my eyes on at EA Sports Vancouver. So no time for intros or idle chit-chat, because this is Madden you guys know the history, so I won’t bore you with those details.
 
Upon arriving for the Madden festivities Phil Frazier (Senior Producer) and Dale Jackson (Executive Producer) greeted everyone as they walked into the room. The first thing they talked about was the new "Virtual Trainer" mode, where you can play up to 12 different modes in a holographic environment. These modes included the likes of running, passing, rush defense and pass defense drills, and there are three drills within each category to sharpen your Madden skills. Behind the scenes, as you are playing these modes -- and games in general -- there is a system that studies your abilities as a Madden gamer; which leads us to the new Madden IQ.
 
Madden IQ automatically tunes the game for each gamer. Let's say you are good at passing the football, but not so good at running the ball. Well, this is where Madden IQ steps in and adjusts the game to your skill set. You can still customize sliders to your liking, but this is another route to take, as it adapts to your abilities. To me, it seems as though it will help out the beginners, which leads me to the next feature.
 
I doubt the typical OS'er will be using this feature that much, but it's there nonetheless. The new feature is called “Backtrack.” This feature gives you, in golf terms, a mulligan. A do-over, if you will. In a way, it gives the non-football gamer a chance to beat even the best Madden gamer. Just threw a pick? Bah, no problem, use the Backtrack and do the play over again, but this time, throw it to the guy that isn't triple teamed. By default, you have three Backtracks; however, you can turn them off, or set them to as many as you like, according to the team. The Backtracks are also situational based, so you can't just use them at any time. Some situations the Backtracks can be used in include when getting sacked and not finding the open receiver; throwing into coverage with an open receiver; after a bad playcall; or after choosing the wrong play for a situation.
 
Next the team compared the visuals from Madden NFL 08 to Madden NFL 09 and it was easy to see the graphical improvement. In ’09, the shadows were realistic; the fog effects looked very real; even the snow games looked cold. One of the art directors from NBA Street Homecourt helped out with a lot of these graphical improvements, including a blue tint to snow games that adds a unique touch to the game.
 
They have also updated the presentation with some fireworks and camera flashes before kickoff (which you folks probably noticed in the Patriots/Giants video), which we were told was getting toned down a bit before release. The sidelines are populated very nicely with players, security guards, snow banks, snowplows and the lines on the field have been shoveled. Phil Frazier mentioned he wanted "snowbunnies" in the game, but it didn't make the cut. Yes, he did say "snowbunnies.” We were told the snow will come down hard and heavy, and then lighten up on occasion. Also the snow will slowly fill back in the footprints all over the field. Though we won't see player slides graphically embedded in the snow, we were promised 60 FPS for the 360 and PS3.
 
Presentation wise, all 32 teams will not only have the interior portions of their stadiums shown, but the exteriors have been added as well. John Madden is the host of the game this year; he is also the first person you see as the game loads up. He will kick it over to Tom Hammond and Chris Collinsworth, after welcoming everyone to the stadium. He'll also chime in at the half with highlights from the game. I only heard bits and pieces of Tom and Chris during our presentation, so I really can't comment on that. I did hear Chris on one particular occasion going in-depth during a highlight package. He talked about what the offense ran, what the defense ran and who the ball should have went to on the particular pass play. The audio was a little behind, but the team is aware of this and will have it fixed before release.
 
As a “hardcore” gamer, we want to be able to access options on demand, instead of pausing and scrolling. This year, from within the playcall screen, you can do just that. Now within the playcall screen you can now access the instant replay, formation subs, stats, Madden IQ and quite a few other options. The playclock will pause when scrolling through the options, so there is no need to worry about a delay of game penalty. You can make formation subs before a game as well.
 
A new free downloadable Fantasy Football product will be available for Madden NFL 09 as well. You can import your fantasy football team into Madden and take them up against any NFL team or another fantasy football team. You will pick the key players during the fantasy football draft, but the other players will get filled in automatically. As these are created teams, you will have the ability to edit the uniforms to your liking.
 
Madden Moments is another new addition for ‘09. This mode allows players to relive the classic moments from last year, including the Phins winning a game. There are quite a few games in this mode that you can take control of, but most were locked. Since I didn’t get hands-on with this portion of the game I’m not sure if the Moments were just locked on the version being displayed, or they’ll actually be locked in the final version and you’ll need to unlock them somehow. Nonetheless, it may be a mode quite a few of us would like to play around with. I also didn't get to see the list of Madden Moments, but I'm quite sure the Ravens almost upsetting the Pats was in there.
 
The Franchise mode has also undergone a foundation upgrade. Now variables in trade logic, progression, drafting and simulation have been greatly improved to provide more realism. EA said there will be fewer 2,000 yard backs this year as well. Unfortunately for Madden fans, NFL Head Coach 09 will have 70-man rosters, while Madden NFL 09 will again have 53. Speaking of NFL Head Coach 09, you can import plays from that game into Madden NFL 09.
 
As a side note, you can't use custom playbooks online, but they do give you classic playbooks, including five unique classic playbooks from the older Madden games.
 
During the course of the event the team mentioned that presentation was #1 on their list of improvements to make, but #2 was online leagues. You and up to 31 of your friends can set up a league, complete with a playoff system and championship game. Fantasy drafts and player-for-player trades (that’s singular) are also included. However, you can only trade for a player that has the same amount of games played. Also flex schedules are in and administrators can control whether they want multiple people to use the same team or not. Stat tracking and a basic messaging service to communicate in the league has also been included. Since online leagues are a major focus this year, they have been tweaking the server side to make it as lag free as possible, no matter where you are located. But there will be no Spectator Mode this year and injuries will not occur in these leagues.
 
A final nugget of information: Madden NFL 09 comes with an emulator that lets you play the older versions of Madden with the current teams and rosters. I didn’t see the emulator itself so I’m not sure which versions made the cut.
 
Now for some quick hitters: 
  • CPU vs. CPU games are in this year. 
  • They are working on fumble recovery animations.  
  • They tune the game via All-Pro, and the higher the difficulty the better the pursuit angles.
  • They are looking at adding a pursuit angle slider next year.   
  • Spectacular catches have been toned down. Yes you will see them, but not nearly as often as last year.   
  • Superstar Mode is about the same, other than a few camera tweaks.   
  • There will be no custom soundtracks. But they did want it in the game.   
  • No accelerated clock.   
  • In-game saves were brought up, but not confirmed. We tried it in the room and it didn't work, so we'll see in the next build.   
  • More gang tackling animations this year. Todd Zuniga of 1UP pointed out to me the punt and kickoff receiving animations, where they gather themselves before advancing the ball. It’s a small thing, but still very cool.
  • The team explained how the catching animation system is a lot better this year because now the receiver can make catches from all sorts of angles and positions. They also mentioned adding a ton of new animations overall.
 
I did come away a little bummed since I wanted to see more gameplay; but from what I've seen and heard, we could be in for a treat this year with Madden NFL 09. Hopefully I get a beta build fairly soon.

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Member Comments
# 101 TDogg09 @ 07/07/08 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Diehardfan
Does anything ever change? Get everyone amped up on yet another pre-release and then once again...don't deliver the goods. I havent wasted money on Madden in a number of years because of a very simple formula.

EA+Madden=CRAP
Why do people post stuff like this? I'm not harping on you specifically, I'm just wondering why people do it in general. It accomplishes nothing.

By the way, formulas can change.
Madden+Ian, Phil, Simon, etc.+Community Interaction=Madden change for the better.
 
# 102 countryboy @ 07/07/08 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by italianguy
It's not 100% sure that it's going to work from what I've read?
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'Nother update...just saw it all in game and working today! Coming along decently smooth, screen work included. It even does a little rapid clock countdown instead of just popping down in seconds.

Unfortunately, the engineer had it happening before play call instead of after play call...which in essence only gave you a 25 second play clock (which is not ideal obviously). He has to re-work that (simple fix) to move it after play call, and then start actually setting up the actual patch work for pushing out to the servers for testing and such...but just thought I'd let you guys know that things are coming along pretty well.

- Ian
sounds as though its coming along just fine
 
# 103 callmetaternuts @ 07/09/08 10:37 AM
Nice to hear some progress. Im digging this community involvement thing. This might have been asked (and if so, just ignore me) but this patched feature, will the patch include any other fixes? will they be added later?
 
# 104 -DaVe- @ 07/10/08 12:04 PM
This is nice that we're getting interaction with the developers but do we really have to wait till 2010 to get a respectable football game? a Football game that'll be better than NFL 2k5?

Man , I've about had it with waiting and waiting for EA to stop making a bad football game....
 
# 105 countryboy @ 07/13/08 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by -DaVe-
This is nice that we're getting interaction with the developers but do we really have to wait till 2010 to get a respectable football game? a Football game that'll be better than NFL 2k5?

Man , I've about had it with waiting and waiting for EA to stop making a bad football game....

So '09 won't be a respectable football game? And why continue to wait?
 
# 106 azcardsfan81 @ 07/15/08 04:38 AM
I really hope madden 09 is a decent game because I love the nfl and need something to keep me busy till the real season starts . I just hope they made franchise a little more indepth and better than 08. Also does anyone know anything about this fantasy football thing you can do for 09 haven't heard much on it thanks.
 
# 107 countryboy @ 07/17/08 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
wait...lemme get this straight. There is a patch for madden and it aint even out yet??? WUT?!?!? This is getting a little bit out of hand. Why don't they just finish the game first, then release it.

whats getting out of hand? All they are adding is an accelerated clock feature thus far because the community has begged for it. This patch has nothing to do, to my knowledge as of know, with gameplay.

I think its pretty cool that they are doing this, but hey, thats just me.
 
# 108 mrprice33 @ 07/18/08 01:02 AM
I love that people judge madden 09 even though it hasn't been released.


to arsenio, these games have deadlines. some things are prioritized, and the addition of patches has made it simple for devs to focus on other parts of the game with the hope that they can essentially finish the game later. it will provide us with higher quality games.
 
# 109 SoxFan01605 @ 07/18/08 10:57 AM
Are people actually complaining that EA is trying to patch something into the game that fans wanted? I understand frustration, impatience, and even the disgruntled attitude towards EA over the next gen disappointments thus far, I really do. I just don't understand the resistance to them trying to give us what we want. Then again I just remembered the standard reply: "Why do you need to patch something that should have been there already EA?" Oh well...
 
# 110 smonee @ 07/18/08 12:05 PM
i dont understand why they dont talk about the glitches from last year like:
1. edit a player and they wont progress - this isssue is huge and took away the fun of editing players and drafting rookies.
2. freezing 1-5 games even with the updates
3. disappearing free agents
 
# 111 roadman @ 07/18/08 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
Was that the case with NCAA? or MLB2K?? I dont think it was. These games come out too early. Months before either season starts. ANd in other genres companies have no problems delaying games. Your explanation is moot IMO.
Would you prefer that NCAA and Madden came out at the same time?

From a business point of view, that's just not going to happen.
 
# 112 Daudr @ 07/19/08 03:41 AM
No matter what they do to this game, if they don't fix the horrible fumble rate and interceptions from last year then it's all a moot point. I've bought Madden day 1 every year since it came out and I will not be buying it this year until I hear if those issues have been fixed.
 
# 113 JackBurton11 @ 07/20/08 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
No. I dont think i hinted at that at all in my post....

I would like them to come out when they are thoroughly tested, finished games. I think if they just waited til the weekends of the opening day of the season this would happen to a certain degree.
But wait, it would always be a year regardless. If Madden comes out week 1 of the regular season this year, are you proposing it come out in week 6 for 2010? If not, the development cycle is still going to be 1 year, so why does it matter if it comes out in August or September?

Unless you're proposing the series move to a sequel format like Winning Eleven, your proposal offers zero resolution. If we want a yearly game, this is how it is.
 
# 114 countryboy @ 07/20/08 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
How bout this... RELEASE THE GAME WHEN IT IS THOROUGHLY TESTED AND FINISHED.

Ncaa was not ...CLEARLY. Who in the hell says the game has to come out on the same day every year. JUST release the game when it is DONE. Whether it be the first week of august or the last week in January.

So if they took the time one year to fix things like you see in NCAA, this SHOULD shorten the develop time next cycle. But even if it didn't DONT RELEASE THE GAME UNTIL IT IS FINISHED.
I believe they have a "deadline" from the NFL as to when the game is supposed to be released. Not 100% sure, but seems as though I have read/seen that a few times before.
 
# 115 Harlemal @ 07/20/08 11:09 PM
No matter how good madden is people will complain. some people will love it. some people will be lookin for stuff wrong with it. and they def. gonna look for something to exploit. What people got to understand is its a game. it will not be perfect. if you dont like what you see or hear about it dont buy it. its that simple. People like myself are still gonna buy it. AND PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT AP2k8 because is not that good. that game is wack. (IMO)
 
# 116 countryboy @ 07/21/08 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
really? LINK?
I have no link. Just said that I thought I remembered seeing/reading that somewhere.
 
# 117 countryboy @ 07/21/08 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by arseniotall
Sorry I don't see why the nfl or any other sports league would set a deadline on a video game's release. Especially when its released even before final cuts are made on the teams. Makes no sense in my opinion. I don't see any mention of that ANYWHERE on the internet either. EA paid for the licensing then the NFL in turn tells EA when it has to release the game?
like I said, I am not 100% sure that its true, just that I remember seeing/reading/hearing it somewhere.

My mistake.
 
# 118 -DaVe- @ 07/22/08 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Harlemal
No matter how good madden is people will complain. some people will love it. some people will be lookin for stuff wrong with it. and they def. gonna look for something to exploit. What people got to understand is its a game. it will not be perfect. if you dont like what you see or hear about it dont buy it. its that simple. People like myself are still gonna buy it. AND PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT AP2k8 because is not that good. that game is wack. (IMO)

Yea it's wack right? APF has better gameplay than any Madden that has come out in the last 10 yrs
 
# 119 Harlemal @ 07/22/08 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by -DaVe-
Yea it's wack right? APF has better gameplay than any Madden that has come out in the last 10 yrs

It is wack.
 
# 120 Kayotick @ 07/22/08 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Harlemal

It is wack.
That's your opinion.
 


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