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MLB The Show 16 OSFM HYBRID V1 Roster Available Now

08:06 PM - May 23, 2016 by Willard76

Alright, after many months of hard work, mostly by others not named me, we are very proud to announce the release of the 2016 OSFM HYBRID V1 - under psn - Crapinmyshoe

This year has been a special project as it was built around my son receiving his long awaited liver transplant and before I get into specifics about the roster, I would like to get thanks to our team, especially Waittilnextyear who engineered the majority of this year's edition, teeds who we also welcomed back into the fold and contributed many new faces as well as many quality control corrections, Cultbuscus who really got this thing back onto it's feet and basically gathered our team together this year, Totte who was our master of OD backdate as well as quality control, God of Nugget and Blobloblah who did a lot of the tedious work for us as well as the late Dr Illinios who managed to get himself banned from the site but still contributed.

If anyone is interested in making a donation towards the creation of this roster, I would appreciate donations made to Ronald McDonald House Toronto where I did the bulk of my work on the roster this year while my little guy recovered.

ROSTER DETAILS

This is a 40 man roster that contains the following edits;
Full roster rerate (no player untouched)
Pitch Edits from WTNY
OD roster for all MLB clubs and close for AAA and AA
No carry over stats for rookies except for Kyle Higashioka
New Faces and players added to the OSFM V1.5
Equipment edits where info was made available
Accurate Opening Day MLB lineups
Proper positioning according to Baseball Reference
So much more, you need to download and use it to believe

This roster is intended for 30 Team Control but can be played with Single Team.

You will not find another roster that plays as accurate to true life, I hate making claims like this but it is true.

Please rate the roster so non OS users will know it's worth, and most importantly enjoy it for what it is - a great baseball game roster.

WILLARD

Game: MLB The Show 16Reader Score: 8/10 - Vote Now
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# 141 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/25/16 01:19 PM

I rest my case, lol.

# 142 sportsgamer5761 @ 05/25/16 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear


	I rest my case, lol.

I just saw that. Hilarious. I can admit when I'm wrong! *backs away slowly*

# 143 BlingBling19 @ 05/25/16 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoOsiris


	Some of the Jays ratings are confusing. Why is Marco a 72, when he's got a 2.61 era with about 1-1 k/ip ratio over 51 ip...? He's our 2nd best pitcher behind Stroman to be honest, and a control freak with his fastball-changeup. Maybe a mistake, he should be like an and 83/84 to be honest.

To be honest you could of edited that pitcher in a shorter time than it took you to post that. Every year people complain about something they can change themselves in less than a minute lol never ceases to amaze me.

# 144 RogueHominid @ 05/25/16 02:01 PM

Do the re-rates to the Hybrid roster seem to gel well with the way SCEA-generated rookies come in and progress?

A followup question that I also asked in the OSFM 3.0 thread: how, precisely, is the off-season different if you just a single team method with these rosters, specifically re: player re-signings and FA?

And lastly, do the re-rates effect team roster management decisions, like trades, etc?

I've seen lots of conflicting impressions and am trying to cut through the hyperbole to the truth so I can figure out what's what.

Thanks!

# 145 NeoOsiris @ 05/25/16 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingBling19


	To be honest you could of edited that pitcher in a shorter time than it took you to post that. Every year people complain about something they can change themselves in less than a minute lol never ceases to amaze me.

Who said I was complaining, I was just curious about the rationale because I know Williard is a fellow Blue Jays fan. You're the one acting all high and might there buddy. White knight to the rescue!

# 146 BlingBling19 @ 05/25/16 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoOsiris


	Who said I was complaining, I was just curious about the rationale because I know Williard is a fellow Blue Jays fan. You're the one acting all high and might there buddy. White knight to the rescue!

The rationale of how/why players are rated how they are is well documented in both threads.

# 147 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/25/16 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Trojan Man


	Do the re-rates to the Hybrid roster seem to gel well with the way SCEA-generated rookies come in and progress? A followup question that I also asked in the OSFM 3.0 thread: how, precisely, is the off-season different if you just a single team method with these rosters, specifically re: player re-signings and FA? And lastly, do the re-rates effect team roster management decisions, like trades, etc? I've seen lots of conflicting impressions and am trying to cut through the hyperbole to the truth so I can figure out what's what. Thanks!

Best advice I can give you is to try everything out for yourself to cut through any conflicting opinions. No substitute for seeing for yourself tbh. But to address your questions...

1. Whether something "gels well" or not is more of a subjective issue as to what you consider "well" but I can say that the league does not get taken over by drafted players before their time has come. Certainly you may see a new Mike Trout pop up or some real prodigy here or there, but the starting players in this roster are predominant for many years.

2. No real comment on this; this roster wasn't intended for single team control. None of us have tested it for that, although I put most everything on auto when I do 30-team control sims. All I know is that FA's that you think should be signed are signed and that real contracts are fine.

3. Of course. Re-rates will make certain players more valuable or re-order depth charts, which feeds into stat-based progression. So, re-rates have a large impact on the AI. I generally play with trades off and make them myself because the trade AI is fairly weak to begin with, no matter the roster being used. Hence, why we both frequent the trade discussion thread.

# 148 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/25/16 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoOsiris


	Who said I was complaining, I was just curious about the rationale because I know Williard is a fellow Blue Jays fan. You're the one acting all high and might there buddy. White knight to the rescue!

Sorry man, but you sort of walked right into a trap I was setting, lol.

We were just discussing how frustrating it is to explain how players are rated every 3 or 4 posts and then the post after that one was when you ask how the ratings were determined. I'll just say that, it's based on Steamer Projections and we are not changing anyone on request. For better or worse. Luckily, you guys should have edit functions on your games/PS4s and aren't trapped into this roster as is.

Furthermore, Estrada is sort of a weird case where the projections hate him, and have for some time, but he seems to have some mojo where he has avoided regression to his peripherals so far.

Also, Willard doesn't have anything to do with the ratings--if he did the Jays would all be 99 (sorry, Willard lol).

# 149 BlingBling19 @ 05/25/16 02:41 PM

When I was dropping players to get each roster to 25 I noticed some of the teams minor league line-ups would appear invalid. I would then have to have the CPU fix the team which obviously screws up the line-ups. Is there any way to avoid having that happen?

# 150 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/25/16 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingBling19


	When I was dropping players to get each roster to 25 I noticed some of the teams minor league line-ups would appear invalid. I would then have to have the CPU fix the team which obviously screws up the line-ups. Is there any way to avoid having that happen?

No idea. The roster we uploaded doesn't have this issue. If you are moving guys from different levels, then things could go sideways. Best thing is not to touch it (you can just leave some minor league rosters with 22, 23, 24 players) and only adjust who's on the 40-man, not who's at what level (unless you are prepared to fix issues that crop up...too few pitchers or whatever..after you make adjustments).

# 151 VinceJulien14 @ 05/25/16 02:50 PM

I noticed Estrada being low as well, so I just bumped him up a little myself.
loving the rosters guys, thank you all for your hard work! it may not seem like it but it is appreciated lol

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# 152 PVarck31 @ 05/25/16 02:56 PM

Agree about Lindor. Should be A potential. One of the brightest young stars in the game.

Just my opinion though.

# 153 Nulap @ 05/25/16 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PVarck31


	Agree about Lindor. Should be A potential. One of the brightest young stars in the game. Just my opinion though.

Given that all players are rated using the same system I believe that complaints should be forwarded to: http://steamerprojections.com/blog/about-2/ from what I've seen so far people only seem to be at odds with 1 or 2 players. If there were issues with say 20 or more I could see questioning the system, with 1 or 2 it seems, to me, it may be a personal bias.

# 154 tzinc @ 05/25/16 03:13 PM

There is something really wrong with people.
All this hard work is done for free and they are griping about it.

If they don't like it spend weeks MAKING your OWN rosters lol! Or just don't play this roster.
Ridiculous negativity and entitlement.

# 155 PVarck31 @ 05/25/16 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nulap


	Given that all players are rated using the same system I believe that complaints should be forwarded to: http://steamerprojections.com/blog/about-2/ from what I've seen so far people only seem to be at odds with 1 or 2 players. If there were issues with say 20 or more I could see questioning the system, with 1 or 2 it seems, to me, it may be a personal bias.

Well if you don't see A potential in Lindor than it may be your bias.

But it comes down to what the rosters makers think so they are free to have their opinion too.

# 156 PVarck31 @ 05/25/16 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tzinc


	there is something really wrong with people all this hard work for free and they are griping about it if they don't like it spend hours MAKING your OWN rosters lol ridiculous

Why are people not allowed to have opinions on the rosters?

# 157 PVarck31 @ 05/25/16 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tzinc


	opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one

Very nice!

# 158 Nulap @ 05/25/16 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PVarck31


	Well if you don't see A potential in Lindor than it may be your bias. But it comes down to what the rosters makers think so they are free to have their opinion too.

That's just it, it's not what they think. I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, everyone should. But these ratings are not what the roster creators "think" it's what the projections state. The problem people have is with the system, people are mad because one or two guys isn't rated how they like. If the roster creators pulled these ratings out of their asses then by all means complain to them. Since, however, they used a pre-existing projection system it is not the roster you have an issue with, it's the projections.

If there were issues with many other players you may be able to justify an issue with interpretation of the projections, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Sorry for the edit, had to change a diaper (and no, it wasn't mine)

# 159 PVarck31 @ 05/25/16 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nulap


	That's just it, it's not what they think. I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion, everyone should. But these ratings are not what the roster creators "think" it's what the projections state. The problem people have is with the system, people are mad because one or two guys isn't rated how they like. If the roster creators pulled these ratings out of their asses then by all means complain to them. Since, however, they used a pre-existing projection system it is not the roster you have an issue with, it's the projections. If there were issues with many other players you may be able to justify an issue with interpretation of the projections, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Sorry for the edit, had to change a diaper (and no, it wasn't mine)

That's fair enough. I admit I don't know the ins and outs of how these guys make the rosters. And I very much appreciate the work they do so I am in no way putting them down.

I just believe Lindor should be an A. I think a lot of people would agree. But like you said, whatever they use to determine that doesn't agree. And that's fine, I understand, and will still enjoy the rosters.

# 160 WaitTilNextYear @ 05/25/16 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowTyme15


	Try importing Dayan Viciedo over him and re-create him. I did this with a player last night and it worked. Also another weird thing happened RussCanzler, Jake Fox, and Blake Tekotte had a stats glitch after I imported them over legends then I went and checked them last night and somehow their stas reset and everything is normal now.

Are you suggesting that Dayan Viciedo is the Keymaster?

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