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11:01 AM - September 25, 2015 by Steve_OS

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# 941 kabamaru @ 11/14/15 11:53 AM

Patch looks great so far, but I want to check online after a week or so as cheesers will find something to adjust

# 942 meccs @ 11/14/15 02:42 PM

Is there a way to do faster passes? They are always so slow. John Stockton did really those really fast one handed passes into the paint and that isn't possible in 2k. For some reason the ball seems to fly so slow, like a balloon sometimes. How do I do a quick pass?

# 943 CaseIH @ 11/15/15 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by meccs


	Is there a way to do faster passes? They are always so slow. John Stockton did really those really fast one handed passes into the paint and that isn't possible in 2k. For some reason the ball seems to fly so slow, like a balloon sometimes. How do I do a quick pass?

You could bump up the gameplay speed a little to get faster passes, it will also speed up player movement and it speeds up the clock a tad as well, or it use to anyway. It basically speeds everything up as you will see ball shot get to the rim much quicker, which is the 1 reason why I don't mess to much with it, because it looks ridiculous, but bumping it up a tad will get faster passing.

# 944 meccs @ 11/15/15 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CaseIH


	You could bump up the gameplay speed a little to get faster passes, it will also speed up player movement and it speeds up the clock a tad as well, or it use to anyway. It basically speeds everything up as you will see ball shot get to the rim much quicker, which is the 1 reason why I don't mess to much with it, because it looks ridiculous, but bumping it up a tad will get faster passing.

It also makes the opponents faster though. So its basically back to it was before.
Anyway, my first trip to the NBA finals is partially ruined by the fact that the Warriors lost to the Suns (in 4 Games!) in the eastern conference finals. So my Cavs are now playing the Phoenix Suns in the NBA finals... awesome

# 945 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 11/15/15 10:29 AM

Think I finally got it figured out 24th. It took 69 from Melo.. but I did it lol

# 946 MontanaMan @ 11/15/15 11:56 PM

The only people who have a problem with these changes are cheesers.

These have been some of the most requested changes since MyPark started.

Blame you and your kind for forcing 2K to do this. I'm not mad at them at all for trying to clean up MyPark.

# 947 x_NBA_x @ 11/16/15 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Reggie548


	It's not cheese, its strategy on a video game.

It's camping and abusing game mechanics. 2K have fixed a game mechanic that they deemed was being abused and should have been fixed. Instead of moaning, develop some intelligence and adapt.

It actually takes some form of basketball IQ to be in the correct positions to grab rebounds over your opponent and use your team mates and passing to create open shots.

# 948 ViolenceFight @ 11/16/15 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Reggie548


	It's not cheese, its strategy on a video game.

No, you are wrong sir. Taking advantage of something that a game is not programmed to deal with correctly is called an Exploit.

Previously the game was programmed so that setting a pick in the paint gave the offensive rebounder an unfair advantage as the defender could not get position due to the pick animation.

This creates an unfair advantage. That means the person using this tactic is exploiting a programming error. That makes it cheating (most major games will actually flat out ban you for things like this. Its part of the EULA).

The moving screens, meh. They are something that you can deal with. They are considered a "frowned upon" tactic as you're taking advantage of something most players can't deal with (A good team will be calling switches). It was dealt with to level the playing field.

Do we want to talk about how previously, zig zagging for a pull up was also a "Strategic tactic"? I'd suggest we don't, since it's been said by developers that it worked mainly because the defense was programmed in a way that it's reactions were more sluggish compared to the offense. Taking advantage of something that creates imbalance is...you guessed it, an exploit.

# 949 ProfessaPackMan @ 11/16/15 12:59 AM

What'd you do differently?

# 950 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 11/16/15 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessaPackMan


	What'd you do differently?

Quite a few things..

Offensively:
Understanding your offensive playbook. You don't need to utilize every play in the PlayBook but at least understand what the plays do based off their names. Me personally I would have 2 plays for my primary scorers I would use for each of them. As soon as I can get the ball (non transitional) I would set a player going down the court so by the time I reach half court there pretty much all set. But just because I call a play for someone does it mean I need to finish with that player. Also understanding hotspots & utilizing and taking advantage of mismatches. I enjoy playing with the Knicks & Carmelo Anthony is a beast on the block especially when you have a smaller guard against him. So as soon as I see the mismatch I am usually set up a play for Anthony to get down on the block & take advantage of it. I've gotten into the habit of using my size of moves to get past defenders. Once you understand what size of move you're about to perform that is easier for you to break out of it and take advantage of the weaker defender on a drive. This is something that I practice a lot so that way I have an understanding of which move I'm going to be able to use. I think it's something that's overlooked by a lot of players who are having trouble driving to the hole.

Defensively:

This is where I was having a lot of difficulty. As I've mentioned before I was playing against the Cavs to test my skills & Kyrie Irving and LeBron James are very tough to stay in front of. I would often play one on one match ups on blacktop mode to work on my footwork and defensive positioning & it helped out in team play. When it comes to penetrators I like to bump them & get up on them to take some time away from them on the shot clock. Once the shot clock goes down its very likely that they are going to try to take the shot so this is where I like to kind of back off and maybe play off ball defense & I let my computer control teammate to stay on them & I will come and help based off the move that they were going to make. I would have to pick on what it was I'm willing to give up on defense whether it's the outside shot or drive to the hole a majority of the time I would prefer the shooter to shoot outside so that way it gives me a better chance on getting a rebound & them a better chance of possibly missing. You must be able to learn how to play on ball & off ball defense. You are not going to be able to play just one the entire time switching up is important. Also understanding what it is your opponent can do against you for example.. Kevin Love is a very good outside shooter but not very good at driving to the hole so a lot of times when he has the ball I would play on ball defense vs him & I would push up on him the force the drive. Be careful though because even a ball players such as Kevin Love will be able to drive on you if you're too aggressive & overly aggressive. Me I like to force the player & to help forcing them to one side or the other. Wherever I will have help I will force a player to that side is soon as he crosses halfcourt taking away half of the court.

I know that was pretty lengthy but it's just a few things I picked up on help me get better.. But it's also a lot of patience and practice that comes in hand with it. I was so ready to give up on his game until eventually it all just kind of click & it makes it worthwhile game to have now. I haven't receive the Xbox one patch yet but I'm hoping it doesn't ruin my experience thus far

# 951 Whaaaazuuuuup @ 11/16/15 09:27 AM

Also.. When putting pressure on the perimeter you don't want to apply pressure on a guy who is too far away.. Only apply pressure on a shooter who is within their shooting range.. A lot of times they would like to take some time to set up an offense and then once they don't have anything to start moving & closely that's when you start applying pressure & getting ready for them to drive and for help

# 952 ViolenceFight @ 11/16/15 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TaylorBoi


	How do you know that guy is a cheeser lol. Cheesers will still flourish regardless of changes made. You guys were so quick to count out cheesers before the release of 2k16 but from the looks of things they are doing just fine. I do agree with the OP. You guys consistently cry about a game not being realistic. Realistically, there are no illegal screens or 3 second calls in street ball. Screens are abused (especially in 2v2) but if you know how to properly rotate and switch on picks then it can be countered (you wont stop it completely but you can slow it down). The same thing with the rebounding cheese. You can still get position and box out someone who does it. It's all about timing and position. I like the idea of folks not being able to grab their nuts under the basket but adding 3 in the key is iffy IMO. As far as screens go all 2k had to do with buff Pick Dodger or nerf Brick Wall. Regardless of changes I think good players will make adjustments and still do fine.

While you make valid points on "Realism" and the expectations made by the OS community. Park comes down to balance.

In head 2 head, the major issues here are already addressed in actual NBA rules. However, before hand the park was imbalanced as far as these exploits(Rebound Pick in the paint being the more concerning one. And it's not to say you couldn't get boards off certain bounces, but it did create an unfavorable balance to offensive boards, and encouraged the left tight hero ball style that exists and is fundamentally flawed).

They did what they did to level the playing field. I mean, we can't really talk realism on the park where dudes in fedoras and cowboy hats are doing self bounce alley oop posterizingredients dunks every few possessions. So, you're right on that point. However, a mode like that the value is on balance. At its highest level it is supposed to be a battle of skill between 2 teams. That cannot be achieved if offense is heavily favored with abusable tactics the defense has to get lucky to stop.

# 953 NDAlum @ 11/16/15 11:01 AM

All I have to say is there are certain groups I'd play with where when it became game point every single rule in the rule book would be called and argued about for five minutes.

Carry
3 seconds
Illegal screen
Over the back

I may not have played in an actual "Park" but the YMCA pick up games should be considered in the same realm.

The ridiculous and arguing over these petty things is why I don't play at the Y any longer.

# 954 ViolenceFight @ 11/16/15 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reggie548


	Animations? The animations hinder the experience in all honesty. Zig zag pull up? You mean moving around to get open? I don't care about the park and screens because I don't play it.

Well great that you don't play. Way to hunt and peck to try and build an argument, but that's not going to work.

The "Getting open" the way you're talking about was taking advantage of the fact offensive movement vs. Defensive movement has been flawed until the middle of 2k15. That's fact. So changing direction at high speed is a programming flaw you're taking advantage of.

When you can zig zag the full length of the court and then drill pull ups after an entire possession of this, and most defenders can't deal with this due to a flaw that's not a fair system.

Why were you complaining in the other thread about your "Tactics" being gone? 2k is trying to balance the game. They got rid of almost everything you did to score, which is paraphrasing your exact post from the patch 3 thread. That should be enough to tell you that you were abusing exploits. If it wasn't an exploit or abusable, it'd still be here

# 955 ksuttonjr76 @ 11/16/15 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NDAlum


	All I have to say is there are certain groups I'd play with where when it became game point every single rule in the rule book would be called and argued about for five minutes. Carry 3 seconds Illegal screen Over the back I may not have played in an actual "Park" but the YMCA pick up games should be considered in the same realm. The ridiculous and arguing over these petty things is why I don't play at the Y any longer.

Lol. You used to live in South Bend, IN? Yeah, I used to live there and play basketball on The Lake and at that park (never knew the name of that park for some odd reason) down the street from ND. I know exactly what you're talking about. I have quit games where dudes would start arguing over EVERY single call when it was game point.

The NBA rules don't exist until it becomes game winning point, lol. I remember one dude called "over the back" when I pinned his layup attempt on the backboard. Yeah...that was a good ten minute argument, because it was a clean block, but THEN he tried to change the call to goaltending. I'm was like "What!? Whatever, dude.".

# 956 NDAlum @ 11/16/15 12:32 PM

I just went to school there. I'm pretty sure gyms all across the country have that same problem once you get to game point.

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# 957 ViolenceFight @ 11/16/15 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NDAlum


	I just went to school there. I'm pretty sure gyms all across the country have that same problem once you get to game point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We had a hoop in my alley in St. Louis. It stuck out of our backyard over a privacy fence. After 6 possessions, the game resembled hockey more than basketball. You don't know the definition of hard foul until you catch a blind hip check into a $!@#/# fence during a lay up.

These were games with extremely good friends. So yeah, all across the country

# 958 Gosens6 @ 11/16/15 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NDAlum


	I just went to school there. I'm pretty sure gyms all across the country have that same problem once you get to game point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's the same way up here at University At Buffalo. The amount of times a dude will call carry when they're about to lose is astounding lol

# 959 TarHeelPhenom @ 11/16/15 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NDAlum


	I just went to school there. I'm pretty sure gyms all across the country have that same problem once you get to game point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

LOL so true and I've been on BOTH sides. The struggle is real when you look to the sideline and you see about 30 dudes waiting to go up next lol. My fav call was the ball tie up call where whoever called "my ball" first got it lol!

# 960 ksuttonjr76 @ 11/16/15 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gosens6


	It's the same way up here at University At Buffalo. The amount of times a dude will call carry when they're about to lose is astounding lol

Then it gets so bad where the players start asking the dudes who got next what's the correct call, lol.

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