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# 821 jeebs9 @ 10/05/15 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyTouch
I think the idea is that you want variety. 2k Online has been plagued by a decade of people picking the Lakers, Boston, Miami/Cleveland, OKC, and this year it will be the Warriors/Rockets.

When I play with friends we try to go for interesting matchups, and this year you can use lots of teams stylistically that normally you would've never used in years past. I'm completely dominant with the Jazz and they're a tier 2 team with an offensive ranking of a tier 3 team (24). I've enjoyed the hell out of playing with some different teams (not your normal top 3-4 teams). I used the Hawks vs my friend and they're a ton of fun, but you bet your *** only a small % will use them despite the fact they're a top tier team (no household names on the squad ala LeBron).

I totally see his point that people would like variety. I'm not sure whether his matchmaking problems are exclusive to him or not. In my past 3 games of picking the Jazz (Junior varsity level difficulty at the moment), I've faced the Celtics - Timberwolves - Suns in that order. It's getting better for me with the types of teams I'm facing, and I've only seen one Cleveland user so far.

Abuc didn't state how far up he is in the ladder, but he claims that its worse the higher you go and you get more people cheesing with Cleveland (that remains to be seen as far as others' experiences). Nevertheless, history tends to repeat itself, and I'd much rather see people using various teams. If I'm using tier 2, I'd like the percentage of facing tier 3 and tier 2 teams to be higher than tier 1 teams (I don't agree with penalizing people losses for using tier 1, but maybe a system where within the 10 games you play in ladder you can only use a top 3 team a few times would be more fun - however it would be frustrating for home team fans of those top franchises).
So is that how it works?... That's awesome!! I was wondering why I haven't seen anyone using the top teams you mentioned. Now it makes sense why I haven't seen those tops. I've only seen Houston and Clippers once each. And like I said in my other post. The guy took 40 shots with Harden. I've been only using the Kings and the Jazz.
 
# 822 jeebs9 @ 10/05/15 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SOM3ROiD
Yes, this is plain stupid in my book, and just to add, they must put in the option to change the jersey and to see what opponent is using, as people chose team, they don't even know if they are Home or Away team UNTIL they advance in the next step of mathcmaking, where they CAN'T GO BACK from that to change they jersey if they by accident changed to away or alternate one.
Just to point out what I'm trying to say, I played as Miami Heat in red away jerseys, against Chicago Bulls, who also were in red jerseys..
That is nothing.... lol..... I played a guy who had the same team I did (Kings). But not only that.... But we both had our home jersey on. The guy didn't want to quit lol
 
# 823 ksuttonjr76 @ 10/05/15 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spankdatazz22
I think regardless of the sports game, most people that play online choose to play with the best teams to give themselves the best opportunity to win. I wasn't trying to say the Tiered system is perfect; I didn't understand why you'd "hate" an attempt of a developer to give your fellow online players some incentive to use a variety of teams.

I would've elaborated more but as I said didn't want to sidetrack the thread. My reply was more a rant as an offline player - I don't want my enjoyment of the game offline overly affected because of idiots online that are going to use whatever means necessary to gain a win. Your issue isn't going to affect me necessarily, but I saw it as another instance of online players seeming to place more blame on the game than the other online players they're playing. I'm not exclusively an offline player; I'll play online. It's when I do, I have an expectation I'm likely going to face someone willing to do anything to win.
I just want to clarify something that's not being said. The problem is not in the opponent selecting whatever "powerhouse" team to win. The problem is that the online players DON'T have an option to back out of the match unless they automatically want the loss.

In years past, if I didn't want to play another "powerhouse" team, I would back out and search for a new opponent. This year, you're just "stuck" with whomever you're matched up against unless you want the automatic loss, AND the problem could be compounded if you and your opponent select the same colored jerseys.

I played one game where I had the Pacers gold jerseys, and I was matched against a Cavs user using their gold colored jerseys. I quit the game in the 1st quarter, because it was just too much of a eye sore. Plus, I kept getting confused which players were on the court. There's nothing worse thinking you're passing to Paul George, but you was LOOKING at JR Smith.
 
# 824 jeebs9 @ 10/06/15 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76
I just want to clarify something that's not being said. The problem is not in the opponent selecting whatever "powerhouse" team to win. The problem is that the online players DON'T have an option to back out of the match unless they automatically want the loss.

In years past, if I didn't want to play another "powerhouse" team, I would back out and search for a new opponent. This year, you're just "stuck" with whomever you're matched up against unless you want the automatic loss, AND the problem could be compounded if you and your opponent select the same colored jerseys.

I played one game where I had the Pacers gold jerseys, and I was matched against a Cavs user using their gold colored jerseys. I quit the game in the 1st quarter, because it was just too much of a eye sore. Plus, I kept getting confused which players were on the court. There's nothing worse thinking you're passing to Paul George, but you was LOOKING at JR Smith.
I just saw 24th Letter posted this video



I quit these games. I'm color blind. So it's really hard to even watch these games.
 
# 825 Thadon89 @ 10/06/15 12:39 PM
NORMAN POWELL NEEDS HIS FACE SCANNED INTO NBA 2K16
 
# 826 Chairman7w @ 10/06/15 01:30 PM
The heck with online play.

I see the same complaints year after year after year after year after year about online sports games, no matter which game.

Lag, server issues, people only using the best teams, User'ing the top player all game, no fatigue, cheese, exploits, etc, etc.

I have a blast playing this against CPU, I have no desire to subject myself to that stuff.
 
# 827 siimpettai @ 10/06/15 06:26 PM
PlayNowOnline can be so damn frustrating. Has anyone noticed that it's almost impossible to hit two 3pointers in a row? After I hit my first one the next possession my opponent literally let's me shoot and I always miss with a B+ or A-. It's so annoying I'm with the lakers against the cavs playing my *** off it's just BS. I was 22-0 now 26-3 because of this crap.
 
# 828 jeebs9 @ 10/06/15 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by siimpettai
PlayNowOnline can be so damn frustrating. Has anyone noticed that it's almost impossible to hit two 3pointers in a row? After I hit my first one the next possession my opponent literally let's me shoot and I always miss with a B+ or A-. It's so annoying I'm with the lakers against the cavs playing my *** off it's just BS. I was 22-0 now 26-3 because of this crap.
I've hit more then 2 in a row a few times. And stop complaining.... You have a 26-3 record.... I have 5-14 record.... Get over yourself lol jk
 
# 829 FD247 @ 10/06/15 10:35 PM
I hate when your playing on ball defense and the cpu ai decides they want to guard your guy also and leaves their player wide open for a shot.
 
# 830 jfsolo @ 10/06/15 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FD247
I hate when your playing on ball defense and the cpu ai decides they want to guard your guy also and leaves their player wide open for a shot.

This is one of the few big issues with the game. They'll patch it for sure.
 
# 831 mvrvxn @ 10/07/15 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Chairman7w
The heck with online play.

I see the same complaints year after year after year after year after year about online sports games, no matter which game.

Lag, server issues, people only using the best teams, User'ing the top player all game, no fatigue, cheese, exploits, etc, etc.

I have a blast playing this against CPU, I have no desire to subject myself to that stuff.



PREACH brotha! Offline ALL DAMN DAY
 
# 832 Dione2014 @ 10/07/15 09:58 AM




In this clip i'm the Rockets. Take a look at Dwight Howard, i'm not controlling him. He get's out of position on purpose. This really pissed me off because it happens way too often. Guys leave their man for no good reason in this game. Just bad translation of difficulty in otherwise an amazing game by 2K this year.
 
# 833 The 24th Letter @ 10/07/15 10:18 AM
I had a bad instance like that on the perimeter..

Dion Waiters just straight up left someone he was guarding at the 3 point line...

usually I can say "ok, he shouldn't have left, but this is WHY he left" when checking the replay...but in this case I have no earthly idea.

It was NBA 2K9 bad, lol
 
# 834 jeebs9 @ 10/07/15 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter
I had a bad instance like that on the perimeter..

Dion Waiters just straight up left someone he was guarding at the 3 point line...

usually I can say "ok, he shouldn't have left, but this is WHY he left" when checking the replay...but in this case I have no earthly idea.

It was NBA 2K9 bad, lol
Yes after seeing that clip I no doubt think that they is a logic issue.
 
# 835 Armor and Sword @ 10/07/15 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jfsolo
This is one of the few big issues with the game. They'll patch it for sure.
Notice this a lot. And the rocket passes into the paint happen far too often.

Just a minor patch needed to address some obvious bugs. But sliders are highly responsive IMO and get you any kind of game you want.


I love the new controls, they simplified passing, pick and rolls and play calling and free style offense is off hook!!!

Presentation is second to none.


AWESOME GAME. Best 2K ever IMO.
 
# 836 coolcras7 @ 10/07/15 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The 24th Letter
I had a bad instance like that on the perimeter..

Dion Waiters just straight up left someone he was guarding at the 3 point line...

usually I can say "ok, he shouldn't have left, but this is WHY he left" when checking the replay...but in this case I have no earthly idea.

It was NBA 2K9 bad, lol
Noticed that a lot on allstar and above, definitely needs to be patch takes you completely out of the game.
 
# 837 HeavenlyTouch @ 10/07/15 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by abuC
There is something wrong with corner threes, even when they're open they're just less likely to go in than the top of the key or wing threes. I use the Kings and need McLemore and Belinelli in the corners, and the percentage on those corner threes is horrible even when I have a clean look. On the other hand, I've given the wing three to Exum and Rubio and they've gone in. You can't leave anyone open on the wing regardless of their rating, the shot is almost automatic from there it seems.
I shoot corner 3's all the time with Hood, Burks, and Hayward and hit them at various rates... yeah the 3 pt %'s overall are a little lower than I'd like them to be (most games I see both teams struggling mightily from 3 - with the occasional decent percentage), but overall it still feels OK. I would way rather see teams shoot like 1/5, 2/4, 2/6 3/9 type thing on 3's than some crazy %'s and a high volume.

I have a ton of highlights of my guys swishing corner 3's. A lot of guys in this game that I've faced try to shoot quick as soon as they get it, it just doesn't work like that. When your player catches it, give them a second to gather and then start your motion.
 
# 838 stillfeelme @ 10/07/15 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dione2014
In this clip i'm the Rockets. Take a look at Dwight Howard, i'm not controlling him. He get's out of position on purpose. This really pissed me off because it happens way too often. Guys leave their man for no good reason in this game. Just bad translation of difficulty in otherwise an amazing game by 2K this year.
This is the first 2K basketball game I can remember that I felt I need to play off ball just to cover up my teammates mistakes to the CPU.

OG or whoever works on transition defense please fix it in a patch. It is killing the Sim vibe by having me score a FT and then have the CPU launch a 3/4 length pass to an open layup right under the basket. A deadball situation this stuff should not be happening regularly
 
# 839 HeavenlyTouch @ 10/07/15 11:24 AM
lAllstar is still a decent difficulty to play at, I don't know how some of you are enjoying superstar. The AI is absolutely cheating at all levels and there is zero fun in it. You can barely break/shake the defender even with star players regardless of how good your iso skills are, they make perfect passes in every single situation and always make the right pass/play/score at any given moment. I just don't find it to be realistic, you literally have to play god-mode the entire game every game just to stay competitive, let alone win the match. At least on All-star its back and forth and more enjoyable.

In years past I could take AI on superstar and it felt far more authentic, but this feels like some of the early 2k iterations where computer on superstar was just a cheat code on both ends.

BTW for online play, points of emphasis:

Conservative defense
Limit Transition
Crash defensive glass
Protect the paint

(these just guarantee your team absolutely sits their *** at one end and doesn't do anything funky)

This works for me.. my bigs are usually always in position on pick and rolls and I can recover really quick when changing players.. whenever anyone tries to go heavy on the pick and roll I just move back with my big and shift back and forth between my two defenders (you have to constantly click back and forth between them and position them if you want to play it right, if you stick to one you'll get burned by the roll/pop man badly). If you strictly use your guard/wing to defense the pick, your big will automatically hedge high and the opposing big will slip past him and go down the middle or baseline unimpeded for a wide open dunk. Once you go over the pick with your guard or you run into the pick, switch to your big and put him back further, this way you're always behind the roller and you're already in position if he tries to throw it to the big. I'd much rather take my chances to contest a mid range jumper to the ball handler than give up dunk after dunk to the roller.

Read the screen coming, go over top of it/go under it against a bad shooter (Rondo etc.), force them to bad spots like the baseline where its more jammed up with teammates and there is less spacing, you can do that by bumping 'em as soon as you get around the pick.

I'll show you guys some videos later of how I bump Tyson Chandler off the spot on every roll, it worked to great success - he abused the PnR earlier in the game and tried going to it late in the game to win and on multiple possessions I just bumped into Chandler with Gobert and forced him forward instead of toward the rim. You have to get physical with the roller using your big. That being said, when I played the pick and roll strong, some guys have adjusted and chose to play heavy on the pick and pop with guys like Bargnani/Bosh etc, and that was difficult for me to deal with.. I had to put Booker in to be more mobile and sat Favors for long stretches and it worked out great because I could run to contest their stretch bigs much faster on the pop. This feels like real life to me, if I adjust and play the Pick and roll well, they adjusted and brought in stretch bigs, so its a chess match.

Also I still see a lot of guys jumping etc. Stop jumping, use up on the stick on defense and ever so slightly move your left stick into their body as they're shooting and keep shifting it with the direction they move - in the post I get a lot of guys to miss easy hooks just by using hands up - and same on their kickouts, only commit to the jump when you're absolutely sure you got the timing down and that you'll get the block (usually best time to jump is on help defense when you see them committing to the drive).

After you score, switch back quickly to your bigs and run their *** back up court, place them firmly in your painted area and switch back to your guards to defend. Do not, I repeat DO NOT try to full court press ever in this game, it is WAY too easy to turbo past your defender if you try this and I burn a lot of guys who try to full court press me with either their PG or their entire team.

This game requires a lot of adjustments, you actually need to do plenty of work defensively - you can't just sit with one player and do nothing.

Also, Subbing in the right bench guys at the right time can actually work wonders. Trevor Booker has literally turned entire games around for me by hitting a big 3 coming off a screen, or grabbing huge rebounds and put backs around the rim; same with Rodney Hood, he's always in good position for my guys, sits in the corners and on the wings and waits for me to make plays and just hits jumper after jumper. He'll even fly in for the occasional big rebound or block when I need it most.

Even when guys have tried to cheese me I'm always able to switch quickly and recover inside to contest shots and block them, so unlike years past a lot of these issues can be dealt with easily on defense.

I'm 20-2 online and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Yeah, some games guys try **** and it usually works first half and it's a close game. By second half I just adjust with the personnel but also with how I play their exploits and I'm able to take a commanding lead. They try to go heavy on base line? Shade them away from the base line and force them to turbo back center, take your hand off L2 and R2 back to the mid and then switch back to L2 again.. keep bumping into them using L2.. get nice and close so they can't get off a string of moves and blow by you. You have to know when to back off a little bit and then when to get close, this constant bumping is a pain in the *** for the opposing guy, he'll get frustrated when he can't blow by you and try to force a tough 3 with another player. You'll notice AI do this to you and it stops your guy from getting into a string of animations.

A lot of times if they do try to go heavy on sideline/baseline against me and blow by, I quickly run over with Gobert and cut it off or block the shot.. so you gotta make the switch really quick just like real life and get in there and make it hard on them. A lot of guys just see the person blow by on the sideline / baseline and try to chase him with the same wing player that was playing defense.... not sure why... just switch to the bigs asap.

I've also had plenty of games where guys play fair, and even when both of us try a quick pass up wing, both defenses are back already because of those POE's I talked about, so getting transition points was actually extremely hard.

Anyway, just trying to translate some of the things I've found to be successful over to the guys who are finding online to be a hassle. I'm absolutely loving it and won't stop playing it. You can stop so many of the exploits and they aren't nearly as bad as you think they are.

My record and margin of victory (before latest win):

 
# 840 j_major32 @ 10/07/15 12:05 PM
Maybe one of the most fun games I've ever played. Fluid. AI is great and is challenging. Couple nit picky things here and there, but overall, great job 2k!
 


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