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NOTE: There will be a roster update when the game is released. Beds will tweet and has continued to post accurate ratings based off of that updated roster on his Twitter feed, so they are more accurate.

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# 101 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
Again, you're going based off of hypotheticals. I'm going based off of WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. There's no "if LeBron was on this team". Wade put on one of the best P/O runs ever and LeBron didn't. Simple as that. Wade had a better team but he also faced greater competition.


Also, Wade never being the Nba's "best player" is your opinion. It's not a fact. Personally, I have Wade as #1 for '06 and '09 but that's just me. One last question, you previously stated that 93 is a good overall for Wade but he's a tier below Kobe, LeBron, e.t.c. So would you agree '01 Iverson > '06 Wade by that logic?
How was he the best player in '09. LeBron won MVP, led the Cavs to 66 wins and had one of the most dominant regular and postseasons of All-Time. He was an absolute monster on defense finishing second in the DPoY race and had one of the highest defensive win shares seasons for a SF ever. Wade has no case over him that season.
 
# 102 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
How in the blue hell is '07 LeBron a 95, yet '06 Wade is a 93?

'06 Finals:
Wade - 34.7 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 3.8 apg on 46.8%FG /27.3%3PT/77.3%FT


'07 Finals:
LeBron - 22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg on 35.6%FG/20%3PT/69%FT


2K stays underrating Dwyane Wade.
You do realize 22 year old LeBron was left alone against the dynasty Spurs right? You do realize Larry Hughes missed most of that series, Eric Snow was burned out and benched in favor of Boobie Gibson and that Cavs team was a below average offense and one of the worst teams to make the Finals ever. You're comparing these two series statistically with no grasp of circumstances and you aren't even factoring the horrible officiating in the Finals that put Wade at the line at historic rates.

LeBron is ranked ahead of Wade because he was a better player. Better rebounder, playmaker, slightly better athlete, better three point shooter, slightly better slasher, better defender. Wade had a better midrange game , flashier handles and post game at that point that's all.

I don't think '07 LeBron deserves a 95 because he's not better than '15 LeBron, I'd probably give him around a 93.
 
# 103 SaruAqua @ 09/20/15 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
How was he the best player in '09. LeBron won MVP, led the Cavs to 66 wins and had one of the most dominant regular and postseasons of All-Time. He was an absolute monster on defense finishing second in the DPoY race and had one of the highest defensive win shares seasons for a SF ever. Wade has no case over him that season.
LeBron had a great postseason but Wade was better than everyone in the regular season. 30/5/8/49%FG > 28/8/7/49%FG. Wade beat him in points, assists, steals, blocks, and shot a higher FG%. LeBron beat him in rebounds, 3PT%, FT%, and less TOV. Factor in that Wade carried a rookie head coach and two rookie starters by himself to the P/O while the Cavs had the #1 defense despite Wade being a better defender than LeBron who was getting alot of hype off of chasedown blocks, imo.


Wade broke or tied countless records that season:


- 2nd player ever to score 50+ in one game and drop 15+ assists the next (Wilt)
- 2nd player ever to drop 48+ points, 12+ assists, and shoot 70%+ (Wilt)
- 5th player ever to get 2000+ points, 500 assists, 150+ steals, and 100+ blocks
- 1st player under 6'5" to reach 100+ blocks
- 4th player ever to reach 100+ blocks and 100+ steals in a season (MJ, Pip, Hakeem X2)


That doesn't even include the franchise records broken and had a stretch from 2/18/2009-3/14/2009 where he averaged 37.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 10.4 apg on 55%FG/42%3PT/87%FT.


Again, this is my opinion. I truly believe that Dwyane Wade was the best basketball player on the planet that year. CP3, LBJ, and Kobe were all incredible, too.
 
# 104 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
LeBron had a great postseason but Wade was better than everyone in the regular season. 30/5/8/49%FG > 28/8/7/49%FG. Wade beat him in points, assists, steals, blocks, and shot a higher FG%. LeBron beat him in rebounds, 3PT%, FT%, and less TOV. Factor in that Wade carried a rookie head coach and two rookie starters by himself to the P/O while the Cavs had the #1 defense despite Wade being a better defender than LeBron who was getting alot of hype off of chasedown blocks, imo.


Wade broke or tied countless records that season:


- 2nd player ever to score 50+ in one game and drop 15+ assists the next (Wilt)
- 2nd player ever to drop 48+ points, 12+ assists, and shoot 70%+ (Wilt)
- 5th player ever to get 2000+ points, 500 assists, 150+ steals, and 100+ blocks
- 1st player under 6'5" to reach 100+ blocks
- 4th player ever to reach 100+ blocks and 100+ steals in a season (MJ, Pip, Hakeem X2)


That doesn't even include the franchise records broken and had a stretch from 2/18/2009-3/14/2009 where he averaged 37.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 10.4 apg on 55%FG/42%3PT/87%FT.


Again, this is my opinion. I truly believe that Dwyane Wade was the best basketball player on the planet that year. CP3, LBJ, and Kobe were all incredible, too.
LeBron had one of the highest Player Efficiency Ratings of All-Time literally trailing only Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain. He accumulated over 20 win shares, had one of the best seasons ever in terms of net rating and box plus minus. LeBron was the best crunch time player in the league that season as well. Those basic per game stats don't tell the story.

Wade a better defender than LeBron based on what? Wade was never a better defender than LeBron. It was not chasedown block hype it was legitimately one of the most impactful defensive seasons by a wing ever. The Cavaliers were nearly 9 points worse without him on the court on defense. He excelled in every area of defense and was DPoY runner up and First Team All-Defense for a reason. LeBron was the best wing defender in the league and had one of the finest defensive seasons ever.


LeBron's team won 66 games ridiculous given that supporting cast while Wade's was a .500 team. LeBron also averaged 35/9/7 in the playoffs.
 
# 105 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 07:51 PM
Pierce being a 91 in '08 is ridiculous we really think he's as good as present day Durant?
 
# 106 SaruAqua @ 09/20/15 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
You do realize 22 year old LeBron was left alone against the dynasty Spurs right? You do realize Larry Hughes missed most of that series, Eric Snow was burned out and benched in favor of Boobie Gibson and that Cavs team was a below average offense and one of the worst teams to make the Finals ever. You're comparing these two series statistically with no grasp of circumstances and you aren't even factoring the horrible officiating in the Finals that put Wade at the line at historic rates.

LeBron is ranked ahead of Wade because he was a better player. Better rebounder, playmaker, slightly better athlete, better three point shooter, slightly better slasher, better defender. Wade had a better midrange game , flashier handles and post game at that point that's all.

I don't think '07 LeBron deserves a 95 because he's not better than '15 LeBron, I'd probably give him around a 93.
That's your opinion. I already provided a full length reasoning as to why Wade was better in the 8th or 9th page to some Kobe fan so I'm not going to say it again. IMO, Wade was the slightly better slasher, much better on ball/help/recovery defender, had a better postgame, much better footwork, better mid-range shot, higher I.Q and more clutch. LeBron was the better rebounder based off height and was an equal playmaker. The '08-'10 Cavs were far from great but there are two reasons why I don't buy that they were all time bad:


1. The Spurs beat the Cavs in the '07 Finals by an average margin of just 6 ppg with LeBron playing poorly (19-53 in last two games despite Spurs' winning by a combined 4 points). The Cavs' defense held Duncan to 18 ppg on 44%FG but had no answer for Parker


2. The Cavs' pushed the Celtics to a decisive G7 in the '08 ECSF despite LeBron shooting 25.6%FG through the first six games (8-42 in first two games).


"Had no help though".
 
# 107 Chocolate Chip @ 09/20/15 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
LeBron had one of the highest Player Efficiency Ratings of All-Time literally trailing only Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain. He accumulated over 20 win shares, had one of the best seasons ever in terms of net rating and box plus minus. LeBron was the best crunch time player in the league that season as well. Those basic per game stats don't tell the story.

Wade a better defender than LeBron based on what? Wade was never a better defender than LeBron. It was not chasedown block hype it was legitimately one of the most impactful defensive seasons by a wing ever. The Cavaliers were nearly 9 points worse without him on the court on defense. He excelled in every area of defense and was DPoY runner up and First Team All-Defense for a reason. LeBron was the best wing defender in the league and had one of the finest defensive seasons ever.


LeBron's team won 66 games ridiculous given that supporting cast while Wade's was a .500 team. LeBron also averaged 35/9/7 in the playoffs.
Iggy was the best defender that year.. the perimeter players rarely had a good game against him
 
# 108 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
That's your opinion. I already provided a full length reasoning as to why Wade was better in the 8th or 9th page to some Kobe fan so I'm not going to say it again. IMO, Wade was the slightly better slasher, much better on ball/help/recovery defender, had a better postgame, much better footwork, better mid-range shot, higher I.Q and more clutch. LeBron was the better rebounder based off height and was an equal playmaker. The '08-'10 Cavs were far from great but there are two reasons why I don't buy that they were all time bad:


1. The Spurs beat the Cavs in the '07 Finals by an average margin of just 6 ppg with LeBron playing poorly (19-53 in last two games despite Spurs' winning by a combined 4 points). The Cavs' defense held Duncan to 18 ppg on 44%FG but had no answer for Parker


2. The Cavs' pushed the Celtics to a decisive G7 in the '08 ECSF despite LeBron shooting 25.6%FG through the first six games (8-42 in first two games).


"Had no help though".
1. Wade was never a better defender than James, there is significant statistical evidence to support this. It seems like you just look at steals and blocks, every defensive tracking stat from Synergy pretty much has James as the superior defender for years now. dRtg and dWs as well as on/off defense numbers paint the same picture. LeBron has always been a better on-ball defender, more versatile being able to guard more positions, being an absolute nightmare at times on transition defense, and being better at recoveries and help defense as well as hedging and defensive rebounding and box outs.

2. James was a better slasher, he shot 72% at the rim while Wade shot 66% at the rim both took over 650 attempts the basket in '06 and '07.

He did have a better midrange game and post game but IQ how so? They weren't equal playmakers either, LeBron is the best non-passing PG ever next to Bird, Pippen, Hill, Pressey and Theus. Wade is a fine playmaker but it really goes beyond simple assists numbers.

3. James was a better crunch time scorer and player than Wade period again statistical fact go on 82games.com they have their 4Q numbers going back to the '04 season.

I don't think you watched the '07 Finals or seem to understand how tough the circumstances were in that series and the fact that the '07 Cavaliers are the worst team to make the Finals. I don't consider that team classic and don't even think they should be in the game. Also, 6 points per game isn't a low margin of victory.
 
# 109 BluFu @ 09/20/15 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
How is second three peat Jordan higher rated than first three peat Jordan?

'07 LeBron Is not better than current LeBron and deserves a low 90's rating, '13 LeBron probably deserves a bit of a higher rating that's better than any Magic season and he got a 97 at his best.

Payton a 92 really don't see how he's better than present day Paul or how he's in the same echelon as Curry.

'03 Dirk only an 85? He was very agile, could handle the ball actually going coast to coast, could pass, was close to a double digit rebounder, was a G.O.A.T. level shooter and underrated defender. Dude was as good as Griffin and Aldridge who are 88's.

Dumars ahead of Isiah? Pierce a 91? '08 T-Mac overrated with damn near a 90 overall.
Agree with all this except maybe Payton
 
# 110 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Chip
Iggy was the best defender that year.. the perimeter players rarely had a good game against him
He wasn't better than James that year...

People don't realize that LeBron being off the court meant the Cavs went from the best defense in the league to like the 19th...
 
# 111 SaruAqua @ 09/20/15 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
1. Wade was never a better defender than James, there is significant statistical evidence to support this. It seems like you just look at steals and blocks, every defensive tracking stat from Synergy pretty much has James as the superior defender for years now. dRtg and dWs as well as on/off defense numbers paint the same picture. LeBron has always been a better on-ball defender, more versatile being able to guard more positions, being an absolute nightmare at times on transition defense, and being better at recoveries and help defense as well as hedging and defensive rebounding and box outs.

2. James was a better slasher, he shot 72% at the rim while Wade shot 66% at the rim both took over 650 attempts the basket in '06 and '07.

He did have a better midrange game and post game but IQ how so? They weren't equal playmakers either, LeBron is the best non-passing PG ever next to Bird, Pippen, Hill, Pressey and Theus. Wade is a fine playmaker but it really goes beyond simple assists numbers.

3. James was a better crunch time scorer and player than Wade period again statistical fact go on 82games.com they have their 4Q numbers going back to the '04 season.

I don't think you watched the '07 Finals or seem to understand how tough the circumstances were in that series and the fact that the '07 Cavaliers are the worst team to make the Finals. I don't consider that team classic and don't even think they should be in the game. Also, 6 points per game isn't a low margin of victory.
Going back to you using PER in your previous post, that's not a reliable stat. Wade has the highest PER in Finals history yet I don't think it's the best Finals performance of all time. PER has Chris Paul and Bob Pettit as two top 10 all time players. All hail Pettit > Kobe/Magic/Bird/KG/Duncan. Next.


Defensive Win Shares is also unreliable. It has DeAndre Jordan as the league's best defender this past season and Carlos Boozer as a top tier defender in 2013-14, LMFAOOOO. Next.


So what if James shot 6% more than Wade in '06/'07? You brought no context such as LeBron just bulldozing his way to the rim while Wade had a more slithery attack. Explains what happened in the P/O when the paint got shutdown. Next.


LeBron was a better passer than Wade because he's a non PG? Gotcha.


So you actually think that LeBron was a better defender than Wade from '04-'07 because of precious meaningless stats? ROOOFL, I think we're done here.
 
# 112 SaruAqua @ 09/20/15 08:44 PM
 
# 113 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
Going back to you using PER in your previous post, that's not a reliable stat. Wade has the highest PER in Finals history yet I don't think it's the best Finals performance of all time. PER has Chris Paul and Bob Pettit as two top 10 all time players. All hail Pettit > Kobe/Magic/Bird/KG/Duncan. Next.


Defensive Win Shares is also unreliable. It has DeAndre Jordan as the league's best defender this past season and Carlos Boozer as a top tier defender in 2013-14, LMFAOOOO. Next.


So what if James shot 6% more than Wade in '06/'07? You brought no context such as LeBron just bulldozing his way to the rim while Wade had a more slithery attack. Explains what happened in the P/O when the paint got shutdown. Next.


LeBron was a better passer than Wade because he's a non PG? Gotcha.


So you actually think that LeBron was a better defender than Wade from '04-'07 because of precious meaningless stats? ROOOFL, I think we're done here.
Yeah we're done you have an extreme bias for Wade and have no context of these numbers.

Wade's 06 Finals was one of the most dominant of All-Time with an actual case for number one and PER reflects that the same way it reflects that guys like Jordan, Chamberlain, O'Neal, Paul, etc. are some of the most productive and efficient players ever. Wade's '06 Finals gets knocked on again because of the horrible officiating that led to many phantom calls and FT's for Wade at near record setting pace.

Also, your going against things that shouldn't even be disputed like LeBron being a better defender than Wade in '09 and overall for their entire careers. Nitpick dWs which is a solid stat when used in context and when you have understanding of it but ignore defensive tracking Synergy numbers and on/off numbers that clearly have LeBron as the most dominant wing defender in the league that year.

6% is significant and it wasn't a product just bulldozing lmaoo.

LeBron is a better passer and playmaker period again not really arguable I have never seen anyone with credibility say Wade and LeBron are the same as passers.
 
# 114 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
You wrote that garbage lol? If you think LeBron's supporting casts in Cleveland were up to par to any other actual title team in NBA history you're delusional. I can't even begin to address this lmao, when LeBron left the court those teams fell apart. Those teams were fueled by three point shooting, defense and LeBron.

The Cavs in '09 and '10 were solid teams the ones before that were terrible especially '07. Lmao at LeBron's defense being overrated because Pierce one of the best SF's ever dropped 40 points on him, you do realize Pierce shoots below 40% in his career against LeBron right?
 
# 115 SaruAqua @ 09/20/15 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
You wrote that garbage lol? If you think LeBron's supporting casts in Cleveland were up to par to any other actual title team in NBA history you're delusional. I can't even begin to address this lmao, when LeBron left the court those teams fell apart. Those teams were fueled by three point shooting, defense and LeBron.

The Cavs in '09 and '10 were solid teams the ones before that were terrible especially '07. Lmao at LeBron's defense being overrated because Pierce one of the best SF's ever dropped 40 points on him, you do realize Pierce shoots below 40% in his career against LeBron right?
I didn't write it but there is truth to it and where exactly did I say that Cleveland was a top tier team? I previously stated that they were "far from great".


Also, lol at you getting all defensive and calling me biased towards Dwyane Wade because I believe that he was better than LeBron at the time. You're wasting your time pushing your agenda-driven opinion on me. Newsflash, I'm not changing my mind. I've never seen anyone other than LBJ stans get so angry towards someone's opinion on video game ratings. Fact is I believe '06 Wade > '07 LeBron and you think vice versa. Go bother someone else or better yet, tell everyone how you believe LeBron James is going to those New York Knicks next summer, lmaoo.
 
# 116 DTHEGAWD @ 09/20/15 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
I didn't write it but there is truth to it and where exactly did I say that Cleveland was a top tier team? I previously stated that they were "far from great".


Also, lol at you getting all defensive and calling me biased towards Dwyane Wade because I believe that he was better than LeBron at the time. You're wasting your time pushing your agenda-driven opinion on me. Newsflash, I'm not changing my mind. I've never seen anyone other than LBJ stans get so angry towards someone's opinion on video game ratings. Fact is I believe '06 Wade > '07 LeBron and you think vice versa. Go bother someone else or better yet, tell everyone how you believe LeBron James is going to those New York Knicks next summer, lmaoo.
Then why post the link if you feel they were far from great?

What agenda? I have nothing invested in this you're entitled to your opinion you said some things I felt were out of line and addressed them simple as that.

And no LeBron isn't coming to the Knicks, corny shot too.
 
# 117 Real2KInsider @ 09/20/15 09:36 PM
Prime Hakeem Olajuwon at 93 OVR basically says it all about the overhyped "Hall of Fame rating system"
 
# 118 Chocolate Chip @ 09/20/15 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DTHEGAWD
He wasn't better than James that year...

People don't realize that LeBron being off the court meant the Cavs went from the best defense in the league to like the 19th...
http://www.depressedfan.com/basketba...ictim-list.php
 
# 119 noodlebombz @ 09/20/15 11:32 PM
I'm mostly content with the ratings.
My two biggest gripes are:

The Dream in his prime (who got a 93) was the most complete Center of all-time and didn't play with an all time great, like Kareem did, (who got a 97 at 23 y.o.) that had the great fortune of playing with the Big O & Magic.

Rose and Kobe are both overrated. Both are coming off major injuries (again). However, both are former cover athletics for the series and happen to play for 2 of the game's largest fan bases.

All in all thou, I'm happy =)
 
# 120 RipCityAndy @ 09/21/15 03:12 PM
Arvydas Sabonis rated at a 79 hurts my heart.
 


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