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NBA 2K16 player ratings have been released for the top 10 point guards in the game. 2K plans to release new Top 10's every day at 10:00 AM PST.

UPDATE: Mike Stauffer is posting more point guard ratings on his Twitter feed, here they are below.
  • Tony Parker - (Overall Rating - 83)
  • Eric Bledsoe - (Overall Rating - 82)
  • Kemba Walker - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Goran Dragić - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Ty Lawson - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Brandon Jennings - (Overall Rating - 80)
  • Jrue Holiday - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Darren Collison - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Deron Williams - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • Reggie Jackson - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • George Hill - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • D'Angelo Russell - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Ricky Rubio - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Michael Carter Williams - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Rajon Rondo - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Dennis Schröder - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Mo Williams - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Elfrid Payton - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Patrick Beverley - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Jarrett Jack - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Emmanuel Mudiay - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Beno Udrih - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jordan Clarkson - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jeremy Lin - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Cory Joseph - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Marcus Smart - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Patty Mills - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • D.J. Augustin - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Zach LaVine - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Greivis Vasquez - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Mario Chalmers - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Norris Cole - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Kirk Hinrich - (Overall Rating - 71)
  • Delon Wright - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Matthew Dellavedova - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Jerian Grant - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Tyus Jones - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Terry Rozier - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Jimmer Fredette - (Overall Rating - 67)
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# 141 BluFu @ 09/17/15 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YungGun
Based on what? The only thing Curry should have over Russ is shooting. Maybe even give him a slight advantage in the Shot IQ rating. Like the slightest advantage.
 
# 142 redsox4evur @ 09/17/15 09:55 PM
Just going with Bigger names:

Rubio: 77
Delly: 70
Patrick Beverley: 76
Lavine: 73
Clarkson: 75
Marcus Smart: 74
Rondo: 77
MCW: 77
Jennings: 80
 
# 143 Bigman101 @ 09/17/15 09:55 PM
Ty Lawson better be label a sg then cuz I don't see him lower than a 80
 
# 144 redsox4evur @ 09/17/15 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigman101
Ty Lawson better be label a sg then cuz I don't see him lower than a 80
Did you not see the reply to your other post? He's an 81...
 
# 145 ojandpizza @ 09/17/15 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundown
I hope KD's lower rating is due to an injury bump, which would be refreshing to see. Of course there are other players that this should have more heavily effected but it's good if that's the case.

I feel that Curry surpassed CP3 this season and certainly made that point in some of their head to head matchups. I certainly wouldn't have minded if Curry was a 92 and CP a 91.

It's not really about "surpassing" though. This is about ratings generating an overall.

It's just tough to see Chris Paul lower when he should likely have much better passing ratings, hands, defense, steals, etc.. Ratings that should have large impact on the PG spot. Curry had a better year, he's a better shooter, it's just hard to imagine his attributes leading to a better overall.

Same could be said for Westbrook though. He would be ahead in all athletic categories for sure. Speed, vert, quickness, strength, steals, dunks, defense, hands, blocks, rebounds, etc.

Just makes me believe that Curry is really overrated in lots of areas or that shooting ratings are a huge weight in the system.


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# 146 Sundown @ 09/17/15 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by YungGun
Based on what? The only thing Curry should have over Russ is shooting. Maybe even give him a slight advantage in the Shot IQ rating. Like the slightest advantage.

Passing, shooting, handles, offensive iq, defensive iq, defense, playmaking, and pretty much most aspects of the game except for rebounding, athleticism, penetration, and getting to the line.
 
# 147 Saix12345 @ 09/17/15 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundown
Passing, shooting, handles, offensive iq, defensive iq, defense, playmaking, and pretty much most aspects of the game except for rebounding, athleticism, penetration, and getting to the line.
Steph Curry's Defense is really overrated.
 
# 148 ojandpizza @ 09/17/15 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Sundown
While Curry on OKC would not necessarily make OKC better this past season, Westbrook on GSW would certainly make GSW worse, and they likely would not have won the title.

I do believe if you swapped Curry with Westbrook with a healthy Durant on OKC, OKC would perform better and Curry would be a better compliment to Durant, and well, that entire team.

And rating Curry above Westbrook involves much more than looking at box scores and advanced stats. Curry is a better player when all those contexts are factored in. NO ONE was calling GSW stacked the year before when it had almost exactly the same roster, and Curry was already performing better than Westbrook when coached by an equally terrible coach-- Mark Jackson is basically Scott Brooks, with even MORE isolation and less passing. Brooks enabled Westbrook to basically play the way he wants to play and ball dominate in a way that takes shots away from the better player. Meanwhile, Curry was always a ball moving guard that was actually being coached in a system that was counter to some of his personal tendencies by Jackson.

If anything, I would think those who are prone to overrate Westbrook factor in less context and are more prone to be influenced by simple box score numbers.

Even if all this inefficient stuff you keep rambling about was 100% facts, this is a 2k rating. There isn't an attribute to reflect any of that stuff.

There isn't a "Curry is steadily more efficient and would compliment KD better" attribute score in 2k.

It'll be interesting to see what the individual ratings are, but Russ is so good in so many areas, along with likely the best athletic attributes in the league, it's almost surprising he isn't the top guard based on that alone. Even though technically he probably isn't the best PG in the league.


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# 149 Bigman101 @ 09/17/15 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BluFu
He's an 81


Thank you for reading my comment and giving me info
 
# 150 Sundown @ 09/17/15 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ojandpizza
It's not really about "surpassing" though. This is about ratings generating an overall.

It's just tough to see Chris Paul lower when he should likely have much better passing ratings, hands, defense, steals, etc.. Ratings that should have large impact on the PG spot. Curry had a better year, he's a better shooter, it's just hard to imagine his attributes leading to a better overall.

Same could be said for Westbrook though. He would be ahead in all athletic categories for sure. Speed, vert, quickness, strength, steals, dunks, defense, hands, blocks, rebounds, etc.

Just makes me believe that Curry is really overrated in lots of areas or that shooting ratings are a huge weight in the system.


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I would have a hard time seeing the opposite-- that the player with the most measurable impact on the game and considered a better player is rated less highly than their peers just because you can name some categories other players excel in. I for one am glad 2K appears to no longer be overrating athleticism in the OVRs.

Curry was the most impactful PG, so whatever he's doing should be giving him the highest OVR at the PG spot. And 2K no longer just rates by position, but player role type. There's no such thing as overrating efficient GOAT level shooting, especially in a position that has the least impact on defense, and when that does translate to actual historical impact.

Curry is likely ranked as an Offensive Superstar, where high shooting bumps the OVR, and for how much his shooting impacts the game, that seems completely appropriate. If the formula is correct, there would be no need to overrate him just to get his rating bumped.
 
# 151 Sundown @ 09/17/15 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ojandpizza
Even if all this inefficient stuff you keep rambling about was 100% facts, this is a 2k rating. There isn't an attribute to reflect any of that stuff.

There isn't a "Curry is steadily more efficient and would compliment KD better" attribute score in 2k.

It'll be interesting to see what the individual ratings are, but Russ is so good in so many areas, along with likely the best athletic attributes in the league, it's almost surprising he isn't the top guard based on that alone. Even though technically he probably isn't the best PG in the league.


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You consider talk about shooting efficiency rambling? That's kind of a head scratcher.

Offensive efficiency is sort of central to any objective basketball analysis. I mean it's simply points on the board vs. possessions or shot attempts taken. Factor in freethrows if you want to get fancy. Essentially dude takes a lot of shots and misses a lot, while another player scores more with the same attempts.

It's a lot simpler, objective, and less "rambling" than asserting that a player is better than another with vague hand waving, especially when the numbers don't show it.

The "efficiency" stat for Curry is his shooting numbers and ratings. The efficiency for Curry's playmaking is in his passing rating. Curry is a better player/compliment to Durant than Westbrook because of his IQ, skills, and tendencies-- he needs less possessions and shots to score leaving more shots for KD which Curry will gladly manufacture.

You're right that there's no rating for fit, but there are tendencies. Unfortunately tendencies don't affect ratings but it would certainly be interesting if tendencies towards or against a player's strength or weaknesses affected their OVRs (like someone who shoots in volume inefficiently).

At any rate I was responding to the assertion that considering Curry as a better player than Westbrook doesn't factor in context if their positions were switched, when there's plenty of reason to believe Curry would fit Durant even better, (and Westbrook would be worse for GSW). No, that's not a 2K stat, but there are plenty of things Curry does that makes him so that are modeled by 2K.
 
# 152 MarkWilliam @ 09/17/15 10:36 PM
Ratings are subject to change.


Ratings threads are prone to arguments.


I wonder if 2K releases ratings, gets the popcorn and then sits back entertained....
 
# 153 Sundown @ 09/17/15 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Saix12345
Steph Curry's Defense is really overrated.

It's not that great-- it's now a bit above average to good in a team concept-- but it's better and more intelligent than Westbrook's or Irving's.


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Originally Posted by Saix12345
Russell Westbrook also averaged more assists than Curry. Just because Curry throws better flashier passes doesn't mean he is a better playmaker.

With a much worse turnover ratio, which is pretty much the standard for judging playmaking ability. Just because Westbrook gets a lot of raw assists doesn't make him a better playmaker either.
 
# 154 eko718 @ 09/17/15 10:57 PM
When this game drops, I'm going to take a close look at Kyrie Irving compared to Damian Lillard. Damian had equal if not better stats in every category except shooting percentages, is probably an equal defender to Kyrie, and might be a better athlete. Kyrie has the handle advantage, but that's about it.
 
# 155 Mauer4MVP @ 09/17/15 11:08 PM
Rubio at 77. I think he should be an 80, but I'm not going to scoff at it. I understand his shortcomings as a scorer, but he is still elite at passing, court vision, very good rebounder and team defender, good free throw shooter.

Oh well. I'll just bump him up a bit.
 
# 156 Sundown @ 09/17/15 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Rubio at 77. I think he should be an 80, but I'm not going to scoff at it. I understand his shortcomings as a scorer, but he is still elite at passing, court vision, very good rebounder and team defender, good free throw shooter.



Oh well. I'll just bump him up a bit.

Yikes. Is that official? Rubio's shooting is horrid but he's a good defender in addition to his passing. I suppose that's kind of interesting that it matches the fact that offensively inept PGs really hurt you in the league.
 
# 157 Ragnar53 @ 09/17/15 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by eko718
When this game drops, I'm going to take a close look at Kyrie Irving compared to Damian Lillard. Damian had equal if not better stats in every category except shooting percentages, is probably an equal defender to Kyrie, and might be a better athlete. Kyrie has the handle advantage, but that's about it.
No way is Kyrie Irving as bad on defense as Damian Lillard. He's the PG version of Harden on defense.
 
# 158 redsox4evur @ 09/17/15 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by redsox4evur
Just going with Bigger names:

Rubio: 77
Delly: 70
Patrick Beverley: 76
Lavine: 73
Clarkson: 75
Marcus Smart: 74
Rondo: 77
MCW: 77
Jennings: 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sundown
Yikes. Is that official? Rubio's shooting is horrid but he's a good defender in addition to his passing. I suppose that's kind of interesting that it matches the fact that offensively inept PGs really hurt you in the league.
Obviously you missed my post earlier. All from Mike's Twitter...
 
# 159 Steve_OS @ 09/17/15 11:19 PM
Updated the OP one more time, based off of Beds tweets.
  • Tony Parker - (Overall Rating - 83)
  • Eric Bledsoe - (Overall Rating - 82)
  • Kemba Walker - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Goran Dragić - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Ty Lawson - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Brandon Jennings - (Overall Rating - 80)
  • Jrue Holiday - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Darren Collison - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Deron Williams - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • Reggie Jackson - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • George Hill - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • D'Angelo Russell - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Ricky Rubio - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Michael Carter Williams - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Rajon Rondo - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Dennis Schröder - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Mo Williams - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Elfrid Payton - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Patrick Beverley - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Jarrett Jack - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Emmanuel Mudiay - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Beno Udrih - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jordan Clarkson - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jeremy Lin - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Cory Joseph - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Marcus Smart - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Patty Mills - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • D.J. Augustin - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Zach LaVine - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Greivis Vasquez - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Mario Chalmers - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Norris Cole - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Kirk Hinrich - (Overall Rating - 71)
  • Delon Wright - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Matthew Dellavedova - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Jerian Grant - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Tyus Jones - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Terry Rozier - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Jimmer Fredette - (Overall Rating - 67)
 
# 160 NorthPhillyFis @ 09/17/15 11:20 PM
New ratings system yet damn near every player has the same rating from last year
 


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