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NBA 2K16 player ratings have been released for the top 10 point guards in the game. 2K plans to release new Top 10's every day at 10:00 AM PST.

UPDATE: Mike Stauffer is posting more point guard ratings on his Twitter feed, here they are below.
  • Tony Parker - (Overall Rating - 83)
  • Eric Bledsoe - (Overall Rating - 82)
  • Kemba Walker - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Goran Dragić - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Ty Lawson - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Brandon Jennings - (Overall Rating - 80)
  • Jrue Holiday - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Darren Collison - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Deron Williams - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • Reggie Jackson - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • George Hill - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • D'Angelo Russell - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Ricky Rubio - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Michael Carter Williams - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Rajon Rondo - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Dennis Schröder - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Mo Williams - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Elfrid Payton - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Patrick Beverley - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Jarrett Jack - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Emmanuel Mudiay - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Beno Udrih - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jordan Clarkson - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jeremy Lin - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Cory Joseph - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Marcus Smart - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Patty Mills - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • D.J. Augustin - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Zach LaVine - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Greivis Vasquez - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Mario Chalmers - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Norris Cole - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Kirk Hinrich - (Overall Rating - 71)
  • Delon Wright - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Matthew Dellavedova - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Jerian Grant - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Tyus Jones - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Terry Rozier - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Jimmer Fredette - (Overall Rating - 67)
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# 161 drewwright @ 09/17/15 11:21 PM
Ratings seem alright to me, no idea what the huge issue is here.


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# 162 icemanfrost @ 09/17/15 11:56 PM
Curry is not a better point guard than CP3
Period
 
# 163 HowDareI @ 09/18/15 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rain723
Lol @ all the ppl here hating on D. Rose. The dude had bad luck with injuries and played his first real season after missing basically 2 years of action. Naturally he struggled this year. But he still showed flashes of the old MVP Rose and I expect him to build on that with some consistency. By the time the playoffs came around he was showing that he's still a force in the league. I can see that rating moving up to the high 80's by the end of the season.

And are there ppl really comparing him to TONY WROTEN?? Really??? You can't be serious. I can't even take you serious as a basketball fan
It's called an opinion, and to be honest I don't care about some random nobody "taking me serious".

Go look up their stats; identical. So I can compare them all I want. All day, every day, any time, any where. So when I say they have identical stats but Wroten's taller and more athletic, I can then say I'd rather have him....and he's much younger.

There's no way Rose has the rating he has right now, there's plenty of guards (realistically) better than him. Wroten shouldn't be higher but he shouldn't be 9 points lower if they have the same stats, right? Okay.
 
# 164 Chocolate Chip @ 09/18/15 01:27 AM
kemba is too high hes not that good of a PG.
 
# 165 MoneyOvaHuds @ 09/18/15 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
I completely understand what you're saying but Wroten only played something like 30 games. That's a really small sample size in the grand scheme of things. His averages over 30 games shouldn't be comparable to the per game averages of a guy who played 20+ more games than he did.

Rose when he was healthy is beyond what Wroten could even dream of being.

Now? Sure since his athleticism took a knock it's different. But to compare them after wroten had one decent season on a very bad team? Come on man.

Also you have to look at all the numbers.

Rose held opposing PGs to an average PER of 14 (
Wroten held opposing PGs to an average PER of 19 (>NBA average). An eFG% of 54% and forced 4 turnovers per game.

Philly were actually better defensively when Wroten was on the bench. They gave up 111 points per 100 possessions with Wroten on the floor. They gave up 104 points when Wroten was on the bench.

With Rose, the Bulls gave up 105 points per 100 possessions with Rose on the floor and 106 with him on the bench.

Rose was a plus defender last year, Wroten wasn't.

With Wroten on the floor Philly allowed more assisted field goals, a higher eFG% and turned the ball over more on offense.

Wroten had a DRtg of 106.6 while Rose was 105.1 so Rose was in the top 40 out of all players (playing > 24mpg). And Wroten was in the top 150 (he was about 148th)


And when you compare the offense you have to remember 44% of Wroten's made baskets were assisted on. Compared to 35% of D.Rose. Rose is clearly better at creating for himself.





Again. Small sample sizes so I don't take too much from it. But I think it's still to early to compare them properly.

Great post man
 
# 166 2_headedmonster @ 09/18/15 02:23 AM
D'Angelo Russell a 77...on a HOF scale?

 
# 167 Real2KInsider @ 09/18/15 02:34 AM
I'll try to post before work in the morning (another full-day tomorrow), sleep is calling me at present.
 
# 168 Sundown @ 09/18/15 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
I completely understand what you're saying but Wroten only played something like 30 games. That's a really small sample size in the grand scheme of things. His averages over 30 games shouldn't be comparable to the per game averages of a guy who played 20+ more games than he did.

Rose when he was healthy is beyond what Wroten could even dream of being.

Now? Sure since his athleticism took a knock it's different. But to compare them after wroten had one decent season on a very bad team? Come on man.
They're both players with mediocre to poor performances-- and the fact that Rose has a larger sample size than Wroten should actually cause his rating to drop significantly.



Quote:
Also you have to look at all the numbers.

Rose held opposing PGs to an average PER of 14 (
Wroten held opposing PGs to an average PER of 19 (>NBA average). An eFG% of 54% and forced 4 turnovers per game.

Philly were actually better defensively when Wroten was on the bench. They gave up 111 points per 100 possessions with Wroten on the floor. They gave up 104 points when Wroten was on the bench.

With Rose, the Bulls gave up 105 points per 100 possessions with Rose on the floor and 106 with him on the bench.

Rose was a plus defender last year, Wroten wasn't.

With Wroten on the floor Philly allowed more assisted field goals, a higher eFG% and turned the ball over more on offense.

Wroten had a DRtg of 106.6 while Rose was 105.1 so Rose was in the top 40 out of all players (playing > 24mpg). And Wroten was in the top 150 (he was about 148th)


And when you compare the offense you have to remember 44% of Wroten's made baskets were assisted on. Compared to 35% of D.Rose. Rose is clearly better at creating for himself.

Again. Small sample sizes so I don't take too much from it. But I think it's still to early to compare them properly.

Now you make a pretty good case that Wroten shouldn't be rated anything beyond kind-of-pretty-bad for a PG. But the same should apply to Rose. He should rank around the high 70's to 80 at best due to his performance after his injury-- but has instead been insulated from drops and excused BY his injury coming onto... the third 2K release now?

 
# 169 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HowDareI
It's called an opinion, and to be honest I don't care about some random nobody "taking me serious".



Go look up their stats; identical. So I can compare them all I want. All day, every day, any time, any where. So when I say they have identical stats but Wroten's taller and more athletic, I can then say I'd rather have him....and he's much younger.



There's no way Rose has the rating he has right now, there's plenty of guards (realistically) better than him. Wroten shouldn't be higher but he shouldn't be 9 points lower if they have the same stats, right? Okay.

Tony Wroten more athletic than Rose? Lol okay.
 
# 170 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 03:00 AM
What's wrong with this forum? Why is Wroten even mentioned in the same breath as anyone other than maybe MCW..
 
# 171 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
Pre injury, that statement would be outlandish. Rose was arguably the most athletic point guard in the league (only other arguments you could make were for Westbrook and Wall).



But post injury? His athleticism took a massive hit. It's not a stretch to say he's on par with Wroten. I don't think his athleticism will ever return to what it was.

I watched every bulls game last year, I can say his athleticism is still there, now did he use it as much as in the past no. Not at all, but that stems from not playing so long and honestly being tentative.
I guess you could take his rust + tentativeness as saying it took a huge blow, but I know it's there and I honestly believe only wall and westbrooke are more athletic. As far as PGs
 
# 172 Sundown @ 09/18/15 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
I disagree. It's easier to average say 16 and 5 over 10 games than it is over 30. Easier to average over 30 than it is over 50.

The more games you play the more fatigue you accrue and the more likely you are to have bad games that bring your averages down. Also since its such a small sample size we should probably take a look at who the opponents were and what level of defense they were playing against. I'm betting against top flight defensive teams like GSW, Memphis and Milwaukee, Rose out performed Wroten.

Sustaining an average of 18 and 5 over 50 games is more difficult than sustaining an average of 17 and 5 over 30 games.


Regardless, the smaller the sample size the less you have to work with.
What I'm saying is there's a very high sample set of Rose playing poorly that justifies knocking Rose down significantly without any relation to Wroten.


Wroten also happens to be pretty medicore as well.
 
# 173 YaBoial @ 09/18/15 04:16 AM
U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions

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# 174 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
You're entitled to believe whatever you want but there's no evidence to back it up.



I would LOVE to see Rose return to his former level of athleticism. But those injuries have long term repercussions and so far there's no evidence of this happening.



Fact is, right now. They're comparable athletically.

There's technically no evidence to prove otherwise, but agree to disagree.

I don't really see the comparisons honestly he's a poor mans drose. Put the stats aside, he doesn't have any of the intangibles Rose has. You don't game plan for Wroten as you would Rose. Wroten doesn't strike fear into the defense as Rose does. You don't have to worry about him taking over a game or having a huge night.. (Maybe a la mo Williams). It's just crazy how people can actually compare the two.
(That wasn't directed towards you MGSW, just at the argument period).
 
# 175 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 05:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YaBoial
U guys are missing the fact that wroten plays at a far higher pace than the bulls. Which caters to his game and had more possessions

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Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.
 
# 176 Sundown @ 09/18/15 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopsin
Exactly the 76ers although not great played in a free flowing style while the bulls played at a snails pace. Which is one reason I believe Rose will end up being a 89 at least. With Fred as the coach it might revitalize him.
Heh, I do think expecting Rose to end up being at least the level of Westbrook and CP3 next season is just a little optimistic.
 
# 177 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
How you feeling about Fred? He loves the long range shooting. You think that suits the roster?

I think he does, we have capable shooters to stretch the floor, but if he can conquer the challenge of getting Rose and Butler to excel, this season could be special.
In all honesty though, I'm just glad we are moving on from Thibs offense.. No more dribble dribble dribble till the last 5 seconds in the shot clock and take a long 2.
 
# 178 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sundown
Heh, I do think expecting Rose to end up being at least the level of Westbrook and CP3 next season is just a little optimistic.

Yeah I could be a little to optimistic honestly. But with a whole offseason of workouts without rehabbing could be a nice difference maker.
I just want him healthy first and foremost.
 
# 179 UnbelievablyRAW @ 09/18/15 07:49 AM
Rose shouldn't even be the the 80s if this is going by last season and the ones before it. Dude is just above mediocre on the court. For a while at the beginning of last season Chalmers had better stats than Rose.

People saying they'd take him over Lowry, Dragic etc are just wishful thinkers hoping he makes a comeback. These ratings are weighed heavily on recent play
 
# 180 Kstat @ 09/18/15 07:54 AM
The harsh truth with Rose is this: he was almost totally reliant on his amazing athleticism, and now his knees are shot. He can't move or jump like he used to, and even though he's still pretty mobile for a big guard he doesn't have the skill set to be elite playing below the rim like CP3 or Curry.

His last hope is he can re-invent himself like McDyess did when his knees gave out on him and discover some fundamentals that he was missing. But even Dyess never reached all-star level post-surgery.
 


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