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NBA 2K16 player ratings have been released for the top 10 point guards in the game. 2K plans to release new Top 10's every day at 10:00 AM PST.

UPDATE: Mike Stauffer is posting more point guard ratings on his Twitter feed, here they are below.
  • Tony Parker - (Overall Rating - 83)
  • Eric Bledsoe - (Overall Rating - 82)
  • Kemba Walker - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Goran Dragić - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Ty Lawson - (Overall Rating - 81)
  • Brandon Jennings - (Overall Rating - 80)
  • Jrue Holiday - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Darren Collison - (Overall Rating - 79)
  • Deron Williams - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • Reggie Jackson - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • George Hill - (Overall Rating - 78)
  • D'Angelo Russell - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Ricky Rubio - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Michael Carter Williams - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Rajon Rondo - (Overall Rating - 77)
  • Dennis Schröder - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Mo Williams - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Elfrid Payton - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Patrick Beverley - (Overall Rating - 76)
  • Jarrett Jack - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Emmanuel Mudiay - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Beno Udrih - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jordan Clarkson - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Jeremy Lin - (Overall Rating - 75)
  • Cory Joseph - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Marcus Smart - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • Patty Mills - (Overall Rating - 74)
  • D.J. Augustin - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Zach LaVine - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Greivis Vasquez - (Overall Rating - 73)
  • Mario Chalmers - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Norris Cole - (Overall Rating - 72)
  • Kirk Hinrich - (Overall Rating - 71)
  • Delon Wright - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Matthew Dellavedova - (Overall Rating - 70)
  • Jerian Grant - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Tyus Jones - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Terry Rozier - (Overall Rating - 69)
  • Jimmer Fredette - (Overall Rating - 67)
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# 201 Mauer4MVP @ 09/18/15 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
Reading through this thread is brutal. D-Rose is getting slandered hard in here by people that clearly didn't watch a whole lot of Bulls games last year as opposed to looking at box scores.
I'll admit I didn't watch a ton of Bulls' games, but you can tell from his stats he isn't nearly as good as he once was.

15.9 PER, 1.2 WS, .493 TS%, .3 VORP.
 
# 202 Mickeyknoxx @ 09/18/15 11:02 AM
Every afternoon, the 2K people say "Time to coffee and laugh hard". They read this kind of thread for about 10 min. and get back to Work.

Knowing that everybody here knows the exact formula to OVR ratings, therefore all the angry. I'm gonna give "The Real Explanation" The OVR Ratings means the max a player can perform. This with the consistency and inconsistency ratings gives how his performance can fluctuate. So a player with 83 OVR rating and 60 inconsistency can perform worst than a 77 and 30 inconsistency. Ok Moderator you can close the thread. Go back to play 2k16 and see how i'm right.

WAIT.... You don't even have the game yet.
 
# 203 MoneyOvaHuds @ 09/18/15 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
Pre injury, that statement would be outlandish. Rose was arguably the most athletic point guard in the league (only other arguments you could make were for Westbrook and Wall).



But post injury? His athleticism took a massive hit. It's not a stretch to say he's on par with Wroten. I don't think his athleticism will ever return to what it was.

The crazy thing is Rose is still Very Athletic, he's still one of of the fastest with the basketball . The thing is Rose just doesn't " dunk " like his younger self and doesn't have that blur speed pre ACL. What I'm saying is Rose is more timely with his athletic ability unlike Westbrook who shows it off 24/7 . Rose was always the smoother athlete and Russ the aggressive one . People always thought Russ was more athletic than Rose but it wasn't pre injuries cuz Rose beat him in every category at the combine .

Also to not Wroten is coming off an ACL tear so yet to be seen if he taken a lil dip .
 
# 204 HowDareI @ 09/18/15 11:11 AM
I love all you guys yo, for real lol...

Please stop taking anything I say personal. Look at my avatar; I'm a Sixers fan. Have been since 2000...and I was still playing on the swings back then haha.

But I will still take Wroten over Rose simply due to his injury history and the fact Wroten is taller and more athletic. From a pure skill standpoint OBVIOUSLY Rose is better...and I never said he wasn't.
Funny thing is, I love Derrick Rose lol...

Now, I never even said Rose should be lower than an 80...nothing of that sort. All I said was that they put up similar numbers so imo their shouldn't be a 9 point difference between them. It just so happens that Rose and Wroten had similar stats last year so I can compare them.

(And during the end of last year Wroten was doing the same thing), plus every time MCW was out Tony was balling out.

I'm really just mad it seems the Sixers weren't really updated. The faces seem the same, and the ratings look the same. You can't play like Wroten really does with his rating right now, which is were my gripe comes in.
 
# 205 MoneyOvaHuds @ 09/18/15 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
I'll admit I didn't watch a ton of Bulls' games, but you can tell from his stats he isn't nearly as good as he once was.



15.9 PER, 1.2 WS, .493 TS%, .3 VORP.

Yea 2 year layoff and not his knee not really right the first half the year will do that to you .

Rose body fatigue was surely in question because in the 15 games were he had 2 days rest he shot 46 % from the field.
 
# 206 HowDareI @ 09/18/15 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
The crazy thing is Rose is still Very Athletic, he's still one of of the fastest with the basketball . The thing is Rose just doesn't " dunk " like his younger self and doesn't have that blur speed pre ACL. What I'm saying is Rose is more timely with his athletic ability unlike Westbrook who shows it off 24/7 . Rose was always the smoother athlete and Russ the aggressive one . People always thought Russ was more athletic than Rose but it wasn't pre injuries cuz Rose beat him in every category at the combine .

Also to not Wroten is coming off an ACL tear so yet to be seen if he taken a lil dip .
We got lucky because it was only a partial tear, and from everything I've seen in articles he's ahead of schedule with his recovery.
 
# 207 MoneyOvaHuds @ 09/18/15 11:15 AM
How do you know you can't play like Wroten with his rating now, Lol you played the game ?



Whatever rating Wroten's been the last frew years I've always been able to play like Tony . It's not hard with his skill set just limit the 3's he takes cuz he not a good shooter but as in terms of getting the to the basket / rebounding / passing you could still do that with him .
 
# 208 Mauer4MVP @ 09/18/15 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
Yea 2 year layoff and not his knee not really right the first half the year will do that to you .

Rose body fatigue was surely in question because in the 15 games were he had 2 days rest he shot 46 % from the field.
That's great. Is he only going to play on games with 2 days rest moving forward?

It still factors in. He has to prove that he can do that consistently. The other games still count.
 
# 209 MoneyOvaHuds @ 09/18/15 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
That's great. Is he only going to play on games with 2 days rest moving forward?



It still factors in. He has to prove that he can do that consistently. The other games still count.

I mean with the new NBA scheduling he would have had a lot more rest periods . Nearly not enough back to back games this year .


Anyway missing the point I know Rose needs to play better but he had a lot to overcome . Huge layoff for an professional athlete of his stature isn't easy . The lack of chemistry with an upcoming all star Jimmy butler , thibs lack of running an offense and the fact his knee didn't really heal well after the meniscus tear . I expect him to be like his 2011 season stat wise , his playoff play was encouraging. Also happy he's finally gotten in off season to work on his game again in Cali with Westbrook other than rehabbing .
 
# 210 HowDareI @ 09/18/15 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
How do you know you can't play like Wroten with his rating now, Lol you played the game ?



Whatever rating Wroten's been the last frew years I've always been able to play like Tony . It's not hard with his skill set just limit the 3's he takes cuz he not a good shooter but as in terms of getting the to the basket / rebounding / passing you could still do that with him .
I usually get a double double easy playing quick ranked games...but he's a bad finisher in traffic...in real life he might be better finishing with contact than he is without.
 
# 211 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 12:30 PM
Isn't there a saying that goes like, "stats don't tell the whole story,"? Yes his efficiency and other parts of his game dropped.. But if you were to have watched all the games last season you'd know, he passes the eye test, he just was a lot more cautious. He wanted to ease his body back in and stay healthy..
Stats don't tell you that.
 
# 212 8KB24 @ 09/18/15 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopsin
Isn't there a saying that goes like, "stats don't tell the whole story,"? Yes his efficiency and other parts of his game dropped.. But if you were to have watched all the games last season you'd know, he passes the eye test, he just was a lot more cautious. He wanted to ease his body back in and stay healthy..
Stats don't tell you that.

Don't tell stats guys that. Don't tell them the game is played on court.
 
# 213 Mauer4MVP @ 09/18/15 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 8KB24
Don't tell stats guys that. Don't tell them the game is played on court.
Why is Rose being cautious, though? Can his body take his style when he isn't being cautious?

You can't just assume he's automatically going back to 2011.

People that dismiss stats are just hilarious.
 
# 214 Hopsin @ 09/18/15 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Why is Rose being cautious, though? Can his body take his style when he isn't being cautious?



You can't just assume he's automatically going back to 2011.



People that dismiss stats are just hilarious.

Why is he being cautious? Maybe bc he has a injury history problem? & I never said stats don't matter, but you can't just look at stats without watching actual games.
 
# 215 Mauer4MVP @ 09/18/15 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hopsin
Why is he being cautious? Maybe bc he has a injury history problem? & I never said stats don't matter, but you can't just look at stats without watching actual games.
That's exactly my point. How do you know he won't be cautious this season?
 
# 216 dmankey1 @ 09/18/15 02:28 PM
Was Cameron Payne released anywhere?

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# 217 jcwkings @ 09/18/15 03:18 PM
In general PG ratings are fine. My only gripe is Russell is way too high. As of now he looks like Kendall Marshall with a better 3 pt shot, and he is a one way player to boot. Should be 74-75 like Mudiaye and thats being generous because he was the #2 pick.
 
# 218 joenuts83 @ 09/18/15 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by King_B_Mack
Reading through this thread is brutal. D-Rose is getting slandered hard in here by people that clearly didn't watch a whole lot of Bulls games last year as opposed to looking at box scores.
my point exactly. who is the only PG to win in Oracle from the east in the regular season. all while destroying chef curry with a jimmyless bulls team. what point guard went 4 and 0 against lowry and 3 and 1 against wall. he beat Lillard parker and harden on their court too.

he beat cp3 at home too past season....

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# 219 Sundown @ 09/18/15 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rashidi
Those players are all wings.
Each position gets dunks in different ways.
Team schemes don't play that much of a factor here.

He started playing SG (i.e. off the ball), for one.
Livingston plays PG, and he doesn't primarily play off ball for the Warriors. He's primary ball handler in the second unit unless he's in a 3-guard lineup for spot minutes, which wasn't his main role for most of the regular season.

Livingston is a PG that gets dunks despite lost athleticism because of a fast paced, transition offense and his own length.

Let's look at a few more examples. Patrick Beverley is a pretty athletic guard. He even plays off ball which you suggest should help dunks. He has 4 dunks to his entire Career. Ty Lawson has been one of the quickest guards his career. He has 11 to his name, ever. Steph Curry has 4 dunks just this season and 14 for his career. Is Curry really better athletically than either Lawson or Beverley?

Come on, man. Dunks are a noisy and arbitrary measure for athleticism, period. Much better measures would be combine measurements or SportsVu data. And pretty odd that you would say that schemes don't affect dunk numbers. Pace directly affects numbers of possessions as does offensive efficiency. Transition offenses and ability to create live turnovers lead to higher dunk numbers.

Just look at GSW. They were #2 in the league in dunks last year. No one is jumping out of the building on that team even though they are all long and athletic enough. Not-so-coincidentally, they were also the #2 offense last year and #1 in pace.

With roughly the same roster just the year before, GSW was #12 in offense and #6 in pace. Not so suprisingly, they also dropped to #6 in dunks.

We can see that there is likely stronger correlation between coaching, offenses, pace, and length of players to dunk totals than there is justification to say one player is definitively more athletic than the other based on noisy dunk data from a position that typically has the smallest sample to work with in the first place.

Now there's obviously SOME not-insignificant correlation between verticality, speed and number of dunks, but length factors in heavily as well. There are so many other factors that I've never actually seen dunk numbers quoted alone before as a conclusive case for comparing athleticism in serious basketball discussion.
 
# 220 8KB24 @ 09/18/15 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MGSW
Why do you have to be one or the other? I've never understood that position. It's just flat out ignorance. The only way to make an informed decision is to take in ALL available information and form a decision then.

So to ignore all metrics and stats is just as ignorant as those who rely solely on them.

They're just as bad as each other.
I love stats and analytics as much as the next guy...but I gotta know how players achieved these stats.
 


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