I mean, if it was important to me that's what I would do instead of all the regurgitation...but I'm assuming we'll be dealing with this after every pic drops, lol
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I'm certain we will be thus me branding it " annoying "
I mean, if it was important to me that's what I would do instead of all the regurgitation...but I'm assuming we'll be dealing with this after every pic drops, lol
For as long as this 'lighting' talk has been going on that some have been inconvenienced with reading, the moderators have yet to say that any of it is out of line or off topic. So until then I don't think that it is inappropriate of people to talk about this game's lighting within screenshot threads. You could of course begin your own NBA2K gaming forum, and then you would be able to outlaw any talk that you deem annoying, i.e., ideas that are far different than yours ...
Actually a mod suggested changing the pace of the conversation....being that opinions on the lighting had been stated.....over...and over again. No one said anyone violated TOS though...it just went to that overboard level...as it often does around this time...and yeah that can get annoying.
Outside of the guys who have already pretty much concluded they aren't going to like any pic that drops from 2k.....I know most here are fans of he game just giving feedback though.....that's fine. I was actually serious tbh....Why not just start a thread on it? I think everyone can at least agree it has room for improvement..
The lighting in 2k14 was great and vibrant, but not that realistic. No court has that much shine sitting live at a real basketball game, and players don't look like they have shiny wax smeared on them when they sweat.
IT'S A THREAD ABOUT SCREENSHOTS AND WE'RE DISCUSSING HOW LIGHTING EFFECTS THE GRAPHICS???!!!!!
Can people stop cluttering already with the "it needs to end" "omg we're still going" stuff??? lol..you're complaining is actually what's off-topic not discussing how lighting is effecting graphics on a picture of the game's graphics lmao
2K14 was a little over-exaggerated, yes. But it was still closer...more vibrate more life-like.
2K15 hands down was smoother and the player models were better...but the overall feel felt more like a game and less lifelike.
We're just wondering if because of gameplay improvements did the graphics take a hit...or did whatever direction the art directors take steer away from 2K14's look. If they could have improved on 2K14's lighting I think it would look beautiful 2 years later.
Like people have said we just want to see the game look lifelike as possible. No one's bashing the game or saying it's ugly at all. The game looks great...and I'm just saying if the game can push the lighting even further it could really set 16 off the top and be the best looking game, period.
The point is. The discussion should already be over. Say your piece and move on. What is there to discuss? Some like it. Some don't. End of. It should have ended 30 pages ago. There's no need for three pictures to be a 40 page discussion when historic teams aren't even on 8 or 9 pages.
This isn't a difficult thing to understand. It's pretty damn simple. There's not a lot to discuss. It shouldn't last this long and people are just being overly critical desperately trying to find something to keep the argument going.
40+ pages on Steph's hair is insane. It's Stan level creepy.
The lighting could have its own topic but unfortunately it's completely subjective and nobody will ever agree. Some people just prefer the warmer tones and some don't (I'm the latter). Still, having its own topic makes some sort of sense. Discussing one guys hair doesn't.
But hey, still just me. Never mind. I'll leave you guys to your argument. It clearly means a lot to you. Everything has to be perfect for you guys, not me. I'm more concerned with gameplay and game modes. Each to their own.
Obviously people still feel like discussing a topic that's relevant to the screenshots posted, especially in the absence of any other information. With all due respect, I'm not sure what's supposed to be achieved by dictating what you think should be in a thread and for how long, over and over and how many posts are acceptable before the thread should stop.
In all honesty that seems more off topic, repetitive, and unconstructive to me, and it's always been odd that certain folks attempt to control other posters based on their own particular sensibilities. There have probably been more posts by yourself about what other posters shouldn't post than any single person has actually posted regarding lighting or Steph's hair. Think on that for a second.
And I say this as a GSW fan. I'm GLAD people actually care about Steph's appearance and accuracy that much. You might be satisfied with a game where Steph doesn't resemble himself when he's the COVER ATHLETE, but I would think that would be all kinds of screwed up, especially after we've waited for so long for even his shot to be correct. The latter only took a few broken records, a lead vote getting all-star selection, and a ring to finally happen.
For all I know, this might be a once-in-a-lifetime thing for some of us-- that our favorite player from a much maligned franchise somehow grew into an All-Star, then an MVP, then a NBA champion, and topped it off by being the main cover guy of our favorite video game. It's surreal and something that I both never thought would happen and simultaneously knew had to happen sometime last season. I don't want 2K to give anything less than they're capable of.
I'm going to go even further and say I don't just want 2K to get his hair right as is-- I want them to keep it accurate if he changes it during the season. At least there's some hope for that since they updated haircuts in a mid-season roster update.
Just want to point out....with all due respect to MikeGSW, what me and him are saying are completely different, lol
Im pretty much on board with the gist of HowDareI's post TBH, I was commenting on how much that same message needs to essentially be copied and pasted. All good though...i'll move on.
Re: Stephs hair....didn't 23 post that the reason his hair is like that is because of how it was when he was scanned, and that Ronnie said it would be updated? Seem's like a lot of folks missed that post.
People have been discussing Curry's hair for 30+ pages. It must be this whole "modern man" and "metrosexual" movement like Glee and Jersey Shore and the other stuff I don't get.
It's his hair. How often are you going to look at that in the game? It seems a little off yeah and if they were to scan his head again or edit it then great. If not whatever. As a basketball fan I'm more concerned about his jump shot. **** his hair. Shave him for all I care, can he ball?
That's your opinion dubby, visuals come first for me. I guess your eyes are going to be closed or you're going to be playing on a super zoomed out camera. It's all about the immersion and If gameplay is off you speak on it right?
Steph isn't even my favorite player, but if he's a cover guy it should be corrected. Everything about that hair just looks screwed up.
The keyword is "video"game, so without visuals it's nothing.
Edit* I just saw the ig video and it looks way better than the screenshot. Forgot what whatever I said.
The lighting in 2k14 was great and vibrant, but not that realistic. No court has that much shine sitting live at a real basketball game, and players don't look like they have shiny wax smeared on them when they sweat.
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Agreed OJ, my main gripe with both titles is that every arena is lit like Madison Square Garden and Staples Center. The crowd lighting has took a huge step back since jumping to next (current) gen. I would like 2K to focus on individual arena lighting, but overall I like the (dulled) lighting on the court.
What are you talking about? It has nothing to do with preference. 2k is attempting to realistically replicate the nba in a video game. The lighting in 2k14 is closer to the lighting in a real nba game. It has nothing to do with preference. There is a right answer, you go with whatever lighting gets you closest to an accurate representation of an nba arena
Thing is neither example (2K14 or 2K15) is completely accurate to how a NBA arena is lit. Most NBA arena courts aren't as reflective as ice (2K14), while other than MSG and Staples Center the crowd, banners and arena details are visible passed the 5th or 6th row of seat (2K14 & 2K15).
Thing is neither example (2K14 or 2K15) is completely accurate to how a NBA arena is lit. Most NBA arena courts aren't as reflective as ice (2K14), while other than MSG and Staples Center the crowd, banners and arena details are visible passed the 5th or 6th row of seat (2K14 & 2K15).
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Although not as much as 2k14, the reflections in the stadiums are very visible. It just depends on the color and brightness of the led lights in the stadium. Look at these videos for example.
Although not as much as 2k14, the reflections in the stadiums are very visible. It just depends on the color and brightness of the led lights in the stadium. Look at these videos for example.
LMAO... I was leaving this but since you insist on dragging me back into it.
1. How does he not resemble himself? He looks awesome his face is staggeringly realistic it's insane how on point he looks.
He looks great. He could use a few tiny tweaks. I was addressing you stating that you don't actually care how accurate he looks and that he could be bald for all you cared. I happen to be slightly more demanding. I'm not a big fan of folks dictating how much others' should post based on how little they personally care about a topic, even if it's a regular or a mod that does it.
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2. His hair looks exactly like it did when they scanned his head, go see the old vine of him being scanned. If he didn't brush it out that's on him.
If his hair was longer when he was scanned, I'm fine with it.
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3. You hardly see players that close during the game.
That's a somewhat weak argument. Highlights happen all the time. If they're going to put effort into, then do it right. I'm not saying 2K isn't doing a great job-- they are-- but I think the critiques might be more in line with what 2K IS actually trying to accomplish than complaints about critiques and stating one doesn't care about accuracy.
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4. I'm more concerned with them getting Steph's jump shot and dribble animation right. But hey, keep salivating over his hair. I'll stick to basketball. Agree to disagree and move on. Each to their own.
Posting what's coming on 10+ posts on your disagreement with others disagreeing is kind of an odd way to go about agreeing to disagree isn't it?
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5. It doesn't require a 40 page discussion to say "his hair could be better". It's a one page discussion at most, then another 9 pages for lighting. People are being nit picky as ****. Appreciate what you've got because overall he looks incredibly realistic. That's not up for debate.
It doesn't require double digit posts cluttering a thread you already feel is too long to say that you think folks should be less nitpicky. 2 at most. See how that works?
Maybe a lot of posters wanted to express their thoughts in a couple of posts? Maybe that interest from a number of posters resulted in 40 pages? You do realize that your own posts repetitively shouting them down may added 3-4 unnecessary pages, right?
If you want to talk about something else, then go start a thread and talk about something else. I for one can't figure out what's supposed to be accomplished by complaining about critiques and observations about graphics in a thread about graphics.
Re: Stephs hair....didn't 23 post that the reason his hair is like that is because of how it was when he was scanned, and that Ronnie said it would be updated? Seem's like a lot of folks missed that post.
Ooh, where was this said? Very cool if that's the case, both in terms of trying to get it accurate in the first place and updating it if it isn't. Incredible actually if true.
Ooh, where was this said? Very cool if that's the case, both in terms of trying to get it accurate in the first place and updating it if it isn't. Incredible actually if true.
Well I went back and read the tweet..and I think I'm off base...misread apparently
Although not as much as 2k14, the reflections in the stadiums are very visible. It just depends on the color and brightness of the led lights in the stadium. Look at these videos for example.
I think the point is that they aren't as pronounced in every arena like they are in 2K14. The balance everybody would like is somewhere between what they look like in 14 and 15. There's reflections in 15 and we can see some reflecting of light in the Steph clip posted for 16 that there are some, but as I mentioned before it was toned down because of the complaints about the floors being too reflective after 14 dropped.
Look at the reflections in those courts compared to what's in 14
Yep that lighting in 14 sucked...15 is much better.
I wouldn't say it sucked, and neither game has gotten the lighting just right. They'll have to try to find a balance between what we had in 14 and what we had in 15.
I can't really look through threads like this. It makes me see stuff I didn't notice before, how off 2K is sometimes and it makes me start having OCD lol.
I never really paid attention to how bad the lightning was compared to x game or real life. And how x players hair doesn't have this amount of hair on the side of his hair. It starts ruining the game a little for me visually lol.