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NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

03:46 PM - August 25, 2014 by RaychelSnr

It seems Scott O'Gallagher's presence on the NBA 2K team is being felt already. In a tweet earlier today after the release of the Yakkem trailer, O'Gallagher claimed that both the charging cheese and the 1-3-1 defense are both no longer in the game -- both have been major complaints of sim-heads for quite awhile.

In a tweet clarifying the above statement, Chris Manning said, "When you move your player around them, you will and can dribble around defenders. No more quick-draw charges."

So there is some good gameplay news for you today. How do you like both changes?

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# 61 thedream2k13 @ 08/26/14 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	As OG mentioned earlier there are other, as yet unannounced improvements, that also reduced the overpowered 1-3-1's effectiveness. At the end of the day it was removed simply because NBA teams don't use it. Not because it was still too powerful. At least in my estimation.

Time to change your sig?

# 62 MeloNYK7 @ 08/26/14 04:27 PM

Has the charge rule been addressed? There are a few non calls that were charges in 2K14 then a lot of charge calls which were blocks. That is a basic fundamental of a 2K game that has to be correct or people will continuously drive with LBJ n KD without the fear of a charge.

# 63 Kaanyr Vhok @ 08/26/14 05:15 PM

I always thought the 1-3-1 was fine. Its just that man to man is weak.

# 64 thedream2k13 @ 08/26/14 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaanyr Vhok


	I always thought the 1-3-1 was fine. Its just that man to man is weak.

U offline only player ? Because online you can cover the entire floor inntue 1-3-1

# 65 Scramz718 @ 08/26/14 09:17 PM

That's great the devs improved the charge mechanics. Hopefully they get the most annoying charge call right this year. The one when your player comes down with a def rebound and before you can even a dribble or pass the ball you get hit with a charge. If you play on 2k cam, the cam doesn't even flip.
This mostly happens after a missed free throw.
After your opponent misses the free throw he pushes the LS forward and taps the charge button. You have no time to avoid the defender. This should be a backing fouls but for some reason in 2k it consider a charging foul.
That has been called the incorrect way in 2k for a long time and it's a bit frustrating. Hopefully they get right this year.

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# 66 reptilexcq @ 08/27/14 04:07 PM

I hope they fix the voice command things. i thought it was cool to be able to speak to the mic and run play quickly in 2k14. It was not a fully function feature and not enough commands. I hope they make it better.

As a matter of fact, make it fully function for online mode. It will make running play calls so much easier and quicker.

# 67 Sundown @ 08/27/14 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrleaderboards


	1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

Take away the option to do what 4 out of 5 players are doing at any time on defense in real team basketball because of some misplaced pride and fixation about beating other guys one on one due to lag? Argh.

Odd you would use a Curry gif as he's primarily assigned to play off-ball defense in the Warriors' schemes, and their defense is top 5 in the league primarily because of their two off ball defenders in Bogut and Iggy.

What they need to do is try to eliminate lag cheese as much as possible and reduce off-ball defender warping. The former might be a partial reality with the elimination of zig zag cheese. But there is already a huge (and completely unrealistic) disadvantage given to AI defenders when contesting because of off-ball twitch gamer complaints.

Now it might be interesting for the defender to be a step behind or lower awareness for a moment when you switch off him if he is on ball to simulate him losing focus or having been caught ball watching or something to reduce cheese like switching away even from the big. But someone doing that is probably terrible already.

Maybe this calls for lobbies and a room where you're forced to play on-ball, so guys who only want to boil down basketball offense and defense to iso spamming and one on one defense can have the game play their way, but I'm not sure why they don't just play blacktop. I'd rather the game just try to address unrealistic advantages offensive players get due to lag and being able to iso spam (I hope shot fatigue is affected temporarily by iso spamming and turbo depletion).

# 68 Sundown @ 08/27/14 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ckgray


	I completely disagree with this comment.

Which part? The fact that most NBA players are defending off ball? The fact that Curry is schemed so he doesn't have to defend on-ball? Or the fact a lot of twitch guys succeed at one-on-one because of lag and cheesy zig zag and iso spamming, and that the game should be more balanced on both ends rather than make some random, arbitrary, arcade, non-sim decision to take the ability to control non-on-ball defenders away and force on everyone to appease a certain mentality?

# 69 Vni @ 08/27/14 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ckgray


	Umm...I think we know what type of defensive scheme you use. LoL...1-3-1 w/ 0% on-ball D. Probably play with Detroit or Clippers. Spam steal every chance you get. I feel pretty confident in saying that too.

You sound ridiculous right now.

# 70 23 @ 08/27/14 09:11 PM

hmmmm

# 71 Scramz718 @ 08/27/14 09:17 PM

I like that they're removing the 1-3-1. I hope 2k improves on the defensive end this year. Help D, On ball D and transition D all need some work.

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# 72 Melbournelad @ 08/27/14 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrleaderboards


	1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

You're not serious, right?

# 73 ChillVillain @ 08/28/14 01:39 AM

I don't play online, so I didn't realize the 1-3-1 zone was so overpowered, but I'm glad charges are getting addressed. I'm playing my association on PC and just shut the game off due to the lack of offensive fouls that gets called, even when you bump the slider to 100. The AI would initiate contact and despite me standing perfectly still, I still get called for the foul. From the sounds of it, you guys honestly took that "NBA 2k in real life" video to heart and are really trying to address the issues the game had. October can't come fast enough.

# 74 Chocolate Chip @ 08/28/14 05:50 AM

1-2-2 zone as a replacement hmm..

# 75 Goffs @ 08/28/14 06:51 AM

I play off ball

# 76 DBMcGee3 @ 08/28/14 09:21 AM

I've always found that the CPU defenders don't play very good on-ball defense anyway. I usually play on-ball, and I'm always ready to quickly switch to a big whenever I see a pick and roll coming. Not only is it more effective (for me at least), but it's a lot more fun and engaging than just standing around away from the ball.

That being said, it would be ludicrous to force people to play one way or the other.

# 77 thedream2k13 @ 08/28/14 09:46 AM

Funny how people play hot potatoe defense and quickly run away from offensive players that have the ball. Lazy gamers wanting CPU to do all the work then come onto forums and complain when CPU sucks on defense

# 78 Goffs @ 08/28/14 11:04 AM

I only play on ball if I'm actually playing someone next to me. Online with the slight delay in lag and you expect me to stay in front of the guy? Yeah no...I'm playing center through and through....besides it's my game and I play it the way I want to.

# 79 VDusen04 @ 08/28/14 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KobeBean8


	That's a cool excuse. But, it's not impossible to play onball online, try it and learn how to adapt to it. But like you said, it's your game, keep letting the CPU do your work. Wonder if guys would play offball offense as well if they had the chance lol.

I do not play online. I usually play on-ball defense offline. However, there are also times where I wish to play other defensive positions as well. For instance, when using a self-created 2004 Pistons, I often found joy in controlling Ben Wallace and concentrating on hedging screens, boxing out, rebounding, and contesting. That said, even when controlling Wallace, I'll still bounce back and forth between onball and off. I sort of do whatever I feel may be most enjoyable in the moment, which I guess is one of the perks of playing offline.

Then again, even when playing against my brother offline (in the same house), he has a certain love for attempting to turbo from one end of the court to the other with a point guard while spamming dribble stick moves. I often feel my help defense cannot recover well enough in time. So in that case, I'll also switch to offball, especially when he so adamantly refuses to use his teammates.

From the sound and looks of it, online NBA 2K competition and offline solo play or fun with friends & family is just two completely different worlds. I care very little about how my video game abilities are perceived and the folks I play 2K with on my couch are usually pretty agreeable regarding our styles of play. If one person begins doing something lame, it usually takes a comment of, "Dude..." and then it rights itself.

# 80 23 @ 08/28/14 11:35 AM

Sorry to say I only half sympathize with online lovers.

Play with friends and people you know. ... otherwise you're going to be complaining forever. .... and I could care less playing with someone telling me how I should be strategizing my own side.

It's not 2ks fault. They can fix as much as they want. If someone wants to cheat then they'll find s way. This goes for 2k call of duty or whatever. They'll find another exploit and it's a never ending cycle with online players.

People hated the 131 and now people are complaining about why they removed it and how it was a cop out.

Sometimes the Internet gets ridiculous. .. the line between reality and what's in the mind of 1000 random onliners is far apart

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