NBA 2K15: Tweet From Scott O'Gallagher Claims 1-3-1 and Charge Cheese Eliminated

[Mrleaderboards]

1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

[KobeBean8]

Taking away off ball would be terrible. I am strictly onball as well, but it's not to be sim or whatever. I've just always been that way since I was a kid playing live. I mean, it's boring not to guard your man. But, sometimes you have to switch offball for a second or two for pick and roll defense and for certain situations like knowing someone is about to lead pass or pass to someone sometimes.

I agree w/ you though. Play strictly offball like staying on the C and then what I do, is feed the post when people do that, but they still switch off is weak to me. I came to play a user, not the CPU. If that was the case, I would play offline. They should make the CPU onball D more weak when you are playing another user or something.

[ckgray]

Quote: Originally Posted by KobeBean8

I agree w/ you though. Play strictly offball like staying on the C and then what I do, is feed the post when people do that, but they still switch off is weak to me. I came to play a user, not the CPU. If that was the case, I would play offline. They should make the CPU onball D more weak when you are playing another user or something.

I so wish they implemented something like this...I play on-ball probably 75% of the time. Frustrating for scrubs to pick good defensive teams and constantly switch off of the ball. Playing off ball is too effective w/ good defensive teams.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mrleaderboards

1-3-1 is for bums...i really wish 2k would address the off ball defense. I dislike the fact that 99% of online guys choose to play off ball because they cant stay in front of you. 2K should address the On-Ball defense so that it would encourage people to play on ball defense. Maybe even take away the option to play off ball would even be better.

Take away the option to do what 4 out of 5 players are doing at any time on defense in real team basketball because of some misplaced pride and fixation about beating other guys one on one due to lag? Argh.

Odd you would use a Curry gif as he's primarily assigned to play off-ball defense in the Warriors' schemes, and their defense is top 5 in the league primarily because of their two off ball defenders in Bogut and Iggy.

What they need to do is try to eliminate lag cheese as much as possible and reduce off-ball defender warping. The former might be a partial reality with the elimination of zig zag cheese. But there is already a huge (and completely unrealistic) disadvantage given to AI defenders when contesting because of off-ball twitch gamer complaints.

Now it might be interesting for the defender to be a step behind or lower awareness for a moment when you switch off him if he is on ball to simulate him losing focus or having been caught ball watching or something to reduce cheese like switching away even from the big. But someone doing that is probably terrible already.

Maybe this calls for lobbies and a room where you're forced to play on-ball, so guys who only want to boil down basketball offense and defense to iso spamming and one on one defense can have the game play their way, but I'm not sure why they don't just play blacktop. I'd rather the game just try to address unrealistic advantages offensive players get due to lag and being able to iso spam (I hope shot fatigue is affected temporarily by iso spamming and turbo depletion).

[ckgray]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Take away the option to do what 4 out of 5 players are doing at any time on defense in real team basketball because of some misplaced pride and fixation about beating other guys one on one due to lag? Argh. Odd you would use a Curry gif as he's primarily assigned to play off-ball defense in the Warriors' schemes, and their defense is top 5 in the league primarily because of their two off ball defenders in Bogut and Iggy. What they need to do is try to eliminate lag cheese as much as possible and reduce off-ball defender warping. The former might be a partial reality with the elimination of zig zag cheese. But there is already a huge (and completely unrealistic) disadvantage given to AI defenders when contesting because of off-ball twitch gamer complaints.

I completely disagree with this comment.

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by ckgray

I completely disagree with this comment.

Which part? The fact that most NBA players are defending off ball? The fact that Curry is schemed so he doesn't have to defend on-ball? Or the fact a lot of twitch guys succeed at one-on-one because of lag and cheesy zig zag and iso spamming, and that the game should be more balanced on both ends rather than make some random, arbitrary, arcade, non-sim decision to take the ability to control non-on-ball defenders away and force on everyone to appease a certain mentality?

[ckgray]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

Which part? The fact that most NBA players are defending off ball? The fact that Curry is schemed so he doesn't have to defend on-ball? Or the fact a lot of twitch guys succeed at one-on-one because of lag and cheesy zig zag and iso spamming, and that the game should be more balanced on both ends rather than make some random, arbitrary, arcade, non-sim decision to take the ability to control non-on-ball defenders away and force on everyone to appease a certain mentality?

Umm...I think we know what type of defensive scheme you use. LoL...1-3-1 w/ 0% on-ball D. Probably play with Detroit or Clippers. Spam steal every chance you get. I feel pretty confident in saying that too.

[Vni]

Quote: Originally Posted by ckgray

Umm...I think we know what type of defensive scheme you use. LoL...1-3-1 w/ 0% on-ball D. Probably play with Detroit or Clippers. Spam steal every chance you get. I feel pretty confident in saying that too.

You sound ridiculous right now.