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Madden NFL 15 Top 5 Quarterbacks

01:15 PM - July 22, 2014 by Steve_OS

EA Sports has just released the top 5 quarterbacks for Madden NFL 15.

#1 Peyton Manning - 98 Overall
#2 Aaron Rodgers - 98 Overall
#3 Drew Brees - 96 Overall
#4 Russell Wilson - 93 Overall
#5 Tom Brady - 93 Overall

Here is a look at the release date schedule for the remaining ratings.

Mon, July 21 – Top 10 Overall Rookies (Released)
Tues, July 22 – Top 5 Overall QBs (Released)
Wed, July 23 – Top 5 Overall RBs
Thurs, July 24 – Top 5 Overall WRs/Top 5 Overall TEs
Fri, July 25 – Top 5 Overall OL Players
Sat, July 26 – Top 5 Overall DEs
Sun, July 27 – Top 5 Overall DTs
Mon, July 28 – Top 5 Overall LBs
Tues, July 29 – Top 5 Overall CBs
Wed, July 30 – Top 5 Overall Safeties
Thurs, July 31 – Top 5 Overall Special Teams
Fri, Aug 1 – Top 10 Overall Players/Full AFC & NFC North Ratings
Sat, Aug 2 – Full AFC & NFC South Ratings
Sun, Aug 3 – Full AFC & NFC East Ratings
Mon, Aug 4 – Full AFC & NFC West Ratings
Tues, Aug 5 – Ratings Recap

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# 41 charter04 @ 07/22/14 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	Brady's 2013 passer rankings 21st in completion % 22nd in TD % 7th in INT% 20th in YPA 17th in QB Rating 11th in QBR

And your point is? Look who his receivers were most of the year. The defense wasn't good and he had just an OK supporting cast but, they got to the AFC championship game. Can't base ratings just on stat's. It's not Tecmo Bowl.

Edit: That sounded a little harsh. Sorry if it came out that way. I really was asking what your point of posting the stat's are. Just wanted to clarify that I didn't mean to sound snappy. lol

# 42 Cowboy008 @ 07/22/14 03:18 PM

What would be a good roster to use once M15 comes out?

# 43 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	And your point is? Look who his receivers were most of the year. The defense wasn't good and he had just an OK supporting cast but, they got to the AFC championship game. Can't base ratings just on stat's. It's not Tecmo Bowl.

By his own standards he had a bad year.

2nd worst completion % of his career
Worst TD% of his career
3rd worst YPA of his career
4th worst QB Rating of his career

His AV (which you can read about here) was the 3rd worst of his career.

He's going to be 37 before the season starts, and, by any measure, he had an average-to-below-average year last season. When you couple that with Wilson's ability as a runner, are you really that surprised that they're rated the same?

Besides, don't we all agree that OVR is kinda irrelevant anyway?

edit: BTW, the defense not being good actually hurts his case for a high rating more than you'd think. They had the second-most plays in the NFL, which helps numbers like raw passing yards, points per game, etc. His efficiency is the alarming part. The pats ranked 10th in pass attempts. Of the 10 teams above them, they ranked 9th in completion %, 9th in td%, 3rd in INT%, last in YPA, 9th in qbrating

# 44 MajorSupreme @ 07/22/14 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	Brady's 2013 passer rankings 21st in completion % 22nd in TD % 7th in INT% 20th in YPA 17th in QB Rating 11th in QBR

Tom Brady when Gronkowski wasn't hurt:
182/284 (64%), 2205 yards, 13 touchdowns, 5 interceptions.

He was throwing to whom those 9 games while Gronk was hurt? Julian Edelman (who is only now considered a #1 WR), Danny "Damaged" Amendola, Aaron "Dropson" who I believe was second in drops for a while, Kenbrell Thompkins, played 12 games, Josh Boyce played only 9 games. Didn't help Ridley was fumbling games away, either. And still got to the AFC championship, for the third straight year. This isn't me being a Pats fan, these are facts.

# 45 jmurphy31 @ 07/22/14 03:27 PM

Here's my thoughts on the ratings.

I dislike Peyton Manning more than any other player. If he's not a 99 based off of stats (that's why Donny said brady was so low) then there should be no one at 99. He broke the two biggest passing records before the last week of the season.

Now to Brady. As others have said he has to do more with less. Look at the broncos regular season game, the saints game, and so on. I will admit his deep ball has fallen off, but again he basically has all slot WRs.

Don't think Wilson belongs in the top 5. Let's see how good he is once he's making top dollar and it hinders the hawks cap space.

The good thing is it kind of looks like the ratings aren't too high. The past few years it seemed like 12-15 QBs were rated 90+.

# 46 jmurphy31 @ 07/22/14 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jmurphy31


	Here's my thoughts on the ratings. I dislike Peyton Manning more than any other player. If he's not a 99 based off of stats (that's why Donny said brady was so low) then there should be no one at 99. He broke the two biggest passing records before the last week of the season. Now to Brady. As others have said he has to do more with less. Look at the broncos regular season game, the saints game, and so on. I will admit his deep ball has fallen off, but again he basically has all slot WRs. Don't think Wilson belongs in the top 5. Let's see how good he is once he's making top dollar and it hinders the hawks cap space. The good thing is it kind of looks like the ratings aren't too high. The past few years it seemed like 12-15 QBs were rated 90+.

The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

# 47 MajorSupreme @ 07/22/14 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jmurphy31


	The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

Aaron Dobson, who was a second-target for Brady early in the season was second in drop rate (23.53, 8 drops of 34 catchable passes). How are you gonna throw 55 touchdowns with stuff like that happening.

# 48 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jmurphy31


	The patriots also were 2nd in the NFL in drops.

Yep. 41 drops, 6.6 % drop rate. The average for the NFL was 4.6%. Let's say you give him those 13 receptions back (4.6 of 619 attempts is 28 drops).

His completion % rises to 62.5.
TD% rises to 4.1
YPA rises to 7.15

Rating probably goes up a little because of all of these factors.

He still doesn't sniff the top 15 in terms of qb performance last year. 93 is a great rating, and if he didn't have the body of work that he does, it'd probably be too high considering his age and dropoff.

# 49 charter04 @ 07/22/14 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	By his own standards he had a bad year. 2nd worst completion % of his career Worst TD% of his career 3rd worst YPA of his career 4th worst QB Rating of his career His AV (which you can read about here) was the 3rd worst of his career. He's going to be 37 before the season starts, and, by any measure, he had an average-to-below-average year last season. When you couple that with Wilson's ability as a runner, are you really that surprised that they're rated the same? Besides, don't we all agree that OVR is kinda irrelevant anyway? edit: BTW, the defense not being good actually hurts his case for a high rating more than you'd think. They had the second-most plays in the NFL, which helps numbers like raw passing yards, points per game, etc. His efficiency is the alarming part. The pats ranked 10th in pass attempts. Of the 10 teams above them, they ranked 9th in completion %, 9th in td%, 3rd in INT%, last in YPA, 9th in qbrating

Well, his standard is one of the best ever. So below his standard is still better than Wilson who clearly doesn't have the same responsibility as Brady. Numbers lie.

I agree about the overall. EA has a very strange system. I'm not even trying to knock Wilson. He's really good but, if Brady and Wilson would have switch teams last year Seattle becomes even better but, NE might not make the playoffs. That's my Opinion based on complete hypothetical's.

# 50 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MossMan84


	Must be some kind of bias against Brady! Brady should be #1 or #2 with ease maybe a 97. Manning is awesome but struggles in most of the bigger pressure games e.g. @Ind @NE and in the Super Bowl. I like Rogers n Brees too but just slightly behind the legend Brady! Brady 97 Manning 97 Brees 95 Rogers 95 Wilson 88

Honestly this doesn't have anything to do with anything.

# 51 charter04 @ 07/22/14 03:45 PM

If anything doing the ratings releases gives us an opportunity for some friendly debat. It's not like there is much else to do this time of year. Lol

# 52 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	Well stand is one of the best ever. So below his standard is still better than Wilson who clearly doesn't have the same responsibility as Brady. Numbers lie. I agree about the overall. EA has a very strange system. I'm not even trying to knock Wilson. He's really good but, if Brady and Wilson would have switch teams last year Seattle becomes even better but, NE might not make the playoffs. That's my Opinion based on complete hypothetical's.

They lie in many different ways, especially raw numbers, which is why I'm staying away from them. But when you look at the other offenses that throw as much as the pats, and how much better they were at it than the pats, it's alarming, is all I'm saying. Sure, their receivers were a mess, but his receivers have been a mess before. Their running game, however, was better than it has been in a long time (they had a better YPC and lower fumble rate than the Seahawks, for example).

# 53 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	If anything doing the ratings releases gives us an opportunity for some friendly debat. It's not like there is much else to do this time of year. Lol

For sure.

I think the way I look at it is this: the overall rating is the sum total of all of the player's capabilities. Even if we allow that Brady is the better passer than Wilson (which is almost impossible to say at this stage of his career, considering their respective workloads), Wilson is obviously the better athlete to such a ridiculous degree that it may make up for the difference. I think we'd agree that, at most, Brady is 1.5x as good of a passer as Wilson. He's definitely not twice as good, but probably better, right? How much better of an athlete is Wilson? 3x? 4x? The balancing out is pretty fair, then, when you consider what the rating represents.

# 54 MajorSupreme @ 07/22/14 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	If anything doing the ratings releases gives us an opportunity for some friendly debat. It's not like there is much else to do this time of year. Lol

I just think it would be better if there were more traits for each position, which dictated how the AI played to really differentiate players from each other. Like for QBs:
-Throws Tight Spiral: Yes/No
-Forces Passes: Rarely/Sometimes/Often/Sporadically/Frequently
-Ability to Throw on the Run: Poor/Decent/High/Very High
-Arm Strength: Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Ball Velocity: Low/Decent/High/Very High
Touch: Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Pocket Mobility: Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Footwork: Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Ability to Read Coverage: Poor/Decent/High/Very High
-Consistency: Poor/Decent/High
-Clutch: Yes/No
-Composure (how a QB reacts to turnovers, three and outs, etc.): Poor/Decent/High
-Deep/Medium/Short Pass Tendency: Rarely/Often/Frequently
-Ability to Complete Deep/Medium/Short Throws: Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Throw Ball Away Tendency: Rarely/Often/Frequently
-Durability: Poor/Decent/Good
-Tuck-and-Run Tendency: Rarely/Often/Frequently
-Red Zone Efficiency: Poor/Decent/High
-Leadership (affects other players): Poor/Decent/Good/Excellent
-Potential: 1-6 (1. Won't improve much/Veteran regression, 2. Very little to improve/ veteran winding down, 3. Some improvement can be made or has intangibles (project players)/Vets reaching peak, 4. A lot of potential there to make into something great/ vet hitting peak, 5. Can easily be molded into something great with a high ceiling/Vet hitting his prime.)

That, and I wish there was no overall period.

# 55 charter04 @ 07/22/14 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	They lie in many different ways, especially raw numbers, which is why I'm staying away from them. But when you look at the other offenses that throw as much as the pats, and how much better they were at it than the pats, it's alarming, is all I'm saying. Sure, their receivers were a mess, but his receivers have been a mess before. Their running game, however, was better than it has been in a long time (they had a better YPC and lower fumble rate than the Seahawks, for example).

I have that NFL.com rewind subscription were you get to watch every game in 30 min and I would say the first of the year was the struggle. His accuracy wasn't great but, it seemed to be mostly drops, young guys with bad route running, and their lack of confidence. Once that was improved the last part of the season and playoffs you saw the old Brady.

I would love to see his numbers in the last 8 games and playoffs compared to the first 8. It's not all about numbers but, I need to look it up.

I mean really in Madden how much difference is 98 to 93?

# 56 jmurphy31 @ 07/22/14 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mrprice33


	Yep. 41 drops, 6.6 % drop rate. The average for the NFL was 4.6%. Let's say you give him those 13 receptions back (4.6 of 619 attempts is 28 drops). His completion % rises to 62.5. TD% rises to 4.1 YPA rises to 7.15 Rating probably goes up a little because of all of these factors. He still doesn't sniff the top 15 in terms of qb performance last year. 93 is a great rating, and if he didn't have the body of work that he does, it'd probably be too high considering his age and dropoff.

It's not just the drops. I've watched every game multiple times. It was a lot of mistakes from young WRs. Tompkins leaving his feet on almost every catch plus catching with his body. Guys running wrong routes. Toss in his o line was beyond awful and hurt.

Again brady didn't have a great stat year, but he won games. Jaws had him number 2 on his qb list and the nfl had him as the number 2 player.

His deep ball has declined but that's not the teams strength. He plays to the teams strength.

# 57 NicVirtue @ 07/22/14 03:56 PM

Welp....I'll be downloading FBG rosters yet another year and staying away from CFM. Like seriously, Idk how they can make a simulation football game with this current rating system. It's horrible.

# 58 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by charter04


	I have that NFL.com rewind subscription were you get to watch every game in 30 min and I would say the first of the year was the struggle. His accuracy wasn't great but, it seemed to be mostly drops, young guys with bad route running, and their lack of confidence. Once that was improved the last part of the season and playoffs you saw the old Brady. I would love to see his numbers in the last 8 games and playoffs compared to the first 8. It's not all about numbers but, I need to look it up. I mean really in Madden how much difference is 98 to 93?

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0/splits/2013/

that at least has by month.

# 59 bsurocksrule @ 07/22/14 03:59 PM

I find it hilarious about the fans arguing against Wilson's rating. Most of you are fans against the teams that got beat and that could've/should've beaten the Seahawks.

"I can't believe Wilson's rating"
"Wilson won because of the team"
"Wilson's a terrible QB"

Well of course Seahawks haters will say that when Seattle wins. If you don't like his rating just change it when the game is released. I realize that as a Hawks fan myself people will think I'm biased but please, settle down. Some of your complaints are just... stupid.

Just my opinion. /end rant.

# 60 mrprice33 @ 07/22/14 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jmurphy31


	It's not just the drops. I've watched every game multiple times. It was a lot of mistakes from young WRs. Tompkins leaving his feet on almost every catch plus catching with his body. Guys running wrong routes. Toss in his o line was beyond awful and hurt. Again brady didn't have a great stat year, but he won games. Jaws had him number 2 on his qb list and the nfl had him as the number 2 player. His deep ball has declined but that's not the teams strength. He plays to the teams strength.

He's not rated as an 83, though. He's a 93. It's an elite rating. It's 4th best among QBs. Could you argue for him ahead of Manning, Rodgers, or Brees?

You'd have the best argument to put him ahead of Brees, who's gotten sloppy with the ball the past couple of years, but he seems to be rated about where he should be, no?

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