05:23 PM - September 26, 2013 by FloorGeneral
Here is the official statement from EA Sports:
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NCAA Football 14 News Post
05:23 PM - September 26, 2013 by FloorGeneralHere is the official statement from EA Sports:
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For some reason I am starting to loose some interest in following NCAA Football because of this.....
Is that normal? Should I just not care?
Is that normal? Should I just not care?
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ACardAttack @ 09/26/13 11:03 PM
I like how people seem to forget lots of jobs have low or no pay internship requirements
Also sure education isnt important to most of these athletes, but most won't make a dime outside of what they get for scholarships on their football skills
Also sure education isnt important to most of these athletes, but most won't make a dime outside of what they get for scholarships on their football skills
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Deserving shouldn't even be an argument hear. There are plenty of past/current players that have been in the exact situation as Manziel. Hell, there are plenty of businesses who don't offer that fair market value to their employees. It's one of the "pleasures" of being born in the land of the free.
I don't disagree with the notion that Manziel deserves to get some fair market value for his skillset, but that doesn't have to, or should it, come from Texas A&M. If he was allowed by NCAA policy they would have no issues with him making money off his name.
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JustAnotherGamer @ 09/26/13 11:07 PM
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People are going bankrupt is this country to get a college education. Considering how few college athletes actually make it to the show, the education is what will make their lives a success, not the athletic field.
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Ultimately, the problem is that the NFL doesn't have a Developmental League for 18-21 year olds.
As of right now, if you're 18 and want to play in the NFL, you have no choice. You have to go to college (even if you don't want to), and you have to agree to work like a dog for years and get no pay while living under a Byzantine series of rules that other students don't have to live under, and the payoff is that you get your education for free, except that you have to appease your coaches who will dangle that scholarship over your head while they actively do everything in their power counter to you getting a quality education.
The NFL with their anti-trust exemption has quietly turned a loosely affiliated group of universities in America into their developmental league, most of which are funded at the taxpayers expense. And the sad thing is that students and the universities are fighting each other more and more over who gets the increasingly large chunk of the pie, meanwhile the NFL just reaps the rewards by creating years of buzz and marketing around players they haven't even had to pay yet.
If the NFL were forced to create a D-League for 18-21 year old players, then potential players would have a choice. They could join the D-League and play for (low) pay, or they could go to college and play, but they have to agree to play for scholarships. If players had free choice in this matter, most of these legal issues would dry up.
Would that affect the quality of college football? Sure. So what. I loved watching it when most teams were terrible. Most people who love college football love it for the pageantry, not the quality of play on display.
As of right now, if you're 18 and want to play in the NFL, you have no choice. You have to go to college (even if you don't want to), and you have to agree to work like a dog for years and get no pay while living under a Byzantine series of rules that other students don't have to live under, and the payoff is that you get your education for free, except that you have to appease your coaches who will dangle that scholarship over your head while they actively do everything in their power counter to you getting a quality education.
The NFL with their anti-trust exemption has quietly turned a loosely affiliated group of universities in America into their developmental league, most of which are funded at the taxpayers expense. And the sad thing is that students and the universities are fighting each other more and more over who gets the increasingly large chunk of the pie, meanwhile the NFL just reaps the rewards by creating years of buzz and marketing around players they haven't even had to pay yet.
If the NFL were forced to create a D-League for 18-21 year old players, then potential players would have a choice. They could join the D-League and play for (low) pay, or they could go to college and play, but they have to agree to play for scholarships. If players had free choice in this matter, most of these legal issues would dry up.
Would that affect the quality of college football? Sure. So what. I loved watching it when most teams were terrible. Most people who love college football love it for the pageantry, not the quality of play on display.
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Manziel's jersey makes money for the athletic department, who in turn, uses that revenue to pay for the expenses of every sports program they run. (because football is the money maker for athletic departments. Occasionally basketball.) It pays for equipment, uniforms, facilities, etc. It's not like the school just hoards that money for itself. Nor should Manziel.
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You're trying to make an argument against something that has existed in our country since our independance and somehow making Manziel an exception.
And how ar eyou determining 25K? That seems kind of low when your including books, tuition, free meals on a daily basis that probably add over $1000. They get free strength and conditioning programs at a permier level that most people on the street couldn't even afford.
Athletes nowadays get open ended credit cards to use on University campus for whichever they wish, all included in their "scholarship".
okay back on the topic of this game, has EA confirmed that they'll be taking down the servers for NCAA 14 or will they leave them up for the foreseeable future as 2k did with College Hoops 2k8?
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Rumors are theyare taking them down after season, but I don't think I believe that. The only way I think they are taking them down is if it was part of the settlement, as a way of preventing rosters to be passed around.
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Between 2006 and 2011, SEC football coaches salaries rose on average 128% at a time when their instructional faculty only had a 15% increase in salary.
In 26 states in the US, the highest paid state employee is a football coach at a public university.
Nick Saban's salary ($5.3 mil) is enough to pay the full years tuition of an entire 85 member football team, and still have $3.2 mil to play around with.
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Mazarati 2012 @ 09/26/13 11:28 PM
Being that the NCAA Football series was the only sports game I purchased every year since it began, I am very, very disappointed by this but life goes on. I'll just put the $60 I spent on this game every year towards Madden. I wasn't a big fan of Madden before, but I am now.
Well, here's to hoping all of that talent and resources at EA make one heck of a next gen title. I have been avoiding Madden for years on current gen.. looks like if I want to pay footbal, it will have to be Madden.
Crap.
Crap.
# 235
jhogan3132 @ 09/26/13 11:41 PM
I really hope the servers stay up. As far as this heated debate on compensation I was largely on the side of no extra benefits for a long time. The more I thought about it the more I realized how short sided I was. The TV contracts alone should tell everyone that college football is big buisness. It is very true that college football revenue funds almost all other athletic departments at any university. The hypocrisy is in the NCAA rules that dictate the student athlete. I feel that individual universities should not pay any additional monies to their players. With that being said I believe it is completely unrealistic for a player to not make money from 3rd parties. Why is it a bad thing for a player to be paid for his likeness as it relates to jersey sales or likeness? Currently scholarshiped athletes are not permitted to work. Students on academic scholarship are allowed to work, and if on a full scholarship, are receiving all the same benefits as a student athlete. Yet no one bats an eye at the TV contracts, corporate sponsors, merchandising contracts with Nike etc that generate millions of dollars. The argument that not all players are stars is valid. Eliminate the NCAA rules negating players from monetizing their likeness and let free market dictate their value. The concern that boosters will pad players pockets in hopes of luring them to one school over another will always exist and will never be thwarted, but thats what universities pay the NCAA to do. It's about time that the NCAA see things for what they are, not what they romanticize from glorys past.
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I don't think you have to worry about the servers staying up. EA is already in really bad standing with their consumer base, and this isn't going to help.
FWIW, like it or not, players being paid is likely something that is going to happen in the next couple of years. After that happens, people are going to be much more likely to boot the series up again because there is absolutely no risk in terms of lawsuit.
FWIW, like it or not, players being paid is likely something that is going to happen in the next couple of years. After that happens, people are going to be much more likely to boot the series up again because there is absolutely no risk in terms of lawsuit.
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tarheelguy4736 @ 09/26/13 11:56 PM
The situation just sucks. I only buy this game and the MLB The Show game every year. So now I just worry about MLB The Show because I just cant play Madden. Havent been able to in the last 6 years. Yes it is EA's fault for letting it get this fault but it is also the lawsuits fault for costing us a game. Lawsuits are a thing of normalcy in this country. If you can't make money like a hard working person then just sue for it. It sucks but its the truth. I hope they will be able to bring the game back but I know it wont be in the next five years but I fear that is the end of any college sport game.
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That really sucks that EA is quiting NCAA football. Probably means we wont get another patch to fix some issues, considering when they quit making NCAA basketball they left us all high and dry. Actually up until this year that was the main reason I quit buying EA games, because of them doing us dirty with College hoops game, and the fact that EA games isnt usually all that good anyway.
Have to say this years NCAA football is very close to be a great game, its the most fun I have had with a football game in a long long time. I was afraid because of the law suit that we might be SOL on college games unfortunately.
Some vodoo person needs to put a hex on Ed O'bannon and the guys that sued for likeness is all I got to say. If something bad were to happen to O'bannon I would not feel the least bit sorry
Have to say this years NCAA football is very close to be a great game, its the most fun I have had with a football game in a long long time. I was afraid because of the law suit that we might be SOL on college games unfortunately.
Some vodoo person needs to put a hex on Ed O'bannon and the guys that sued for likeness is all I got to say. If something bad were to happen to O'bannon I would not feel the least bit sorry
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Jm0ney2001 @ 09/27/13 12:04 AM
Wow this fing blows. Soo sad just like when 2k announced no more college hoops. I have bought this game for the last 15 to 20 years. Whenever bill walsh came out. Really going to be a void come next july. I hope its only a 1 year deal and they come back in 15. Sad sad day.
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