NBA Live 13 News Post

NBA Live 13 Gameplay Video - Miami Heat vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

11:48 AM - August 21, 2012 by 22cedric

If you can't view the embedded video, click here.

Here it is, our first glimpse of NBA Live 13 in action.

Thoughts?

UPDATE: EA has taken down the video. Look through the comments section and you might be able to see a few pop up there, until they are removed as well.

UPDATE #2: Kotaku has it online.

UPDATE #3: EA Sports has responded... (via Owen Good, Kotaku)

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	EA Sports responds: "The video appears to be captured from a pre-alpha build months ago and is not an official EA SPORTS release. It does not represent a final build or feature set for NBA Live."

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# 741 swac07 @ 08/23/12 08:55 PM

Westbrook's shot looked pretty sig style to me lol

# 742 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by barimanlhs


	This is the worst part about it....even if half of them were below averge at least every demographic had a choice. Live fans could play Live, 2k fans could play 2k, Street fans could enjoy street, Sony's terrible NBA game could be played by those that thought 1080p on the box made it a good game lol Im happy that we have a fantastic game left but it is disappointing that there is literally no choice. Honestly the demos do enough to keep basketball fresh for me. I could try out all the games and genuinely choose which one I liked and would eventually buy.

NOTE: I agree 100% that competition is great and needed for every market, every genre, every product. But, how many of you folks bemoaning the lack of competition actually support each competitive product, regardless of quality, for competition's sake? These companies have to pay salaries and for resources. We have a case where one title clearly outclassed the other - and therefore - outsold that other title. I'm sure that at some point, the loser gets tired of losing money and bails. If competition is so much in demand, why didn't people buy PES? Why didn't they buy NHL 2K? Are they willing to continue to buy the inferior title just to foster the competition? I'm sure many of you guys do. The question is - will enough people do it? I think that question has already been answered with the titles I mentioned. So, sadly, that makes this discussion pointless.

# 743 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirlonius


	EA would not release a game if it was in that state just for money. I just dont see how this will be the final product. The animations obviously aren't finished and need work based from that vid. Thankfully there is time. If they fix it.. all is well in my mind. Let's see what the finished product has to offer and let go of the past.

There's still time? Huh? The games need to be into MS and Sony at least a month before street date dude. And how do you "fix" animations? In my opinion, I think they've been "fixed" quite a bit. Possibly to a detriment. Any more "fixing" and you won't know what you're going to get. Either you like the animations or you don't. They won't change unless they are replaced. And that's a LOT of replacing you're talking about it. I find it interesting that you feel animations are the only issue. Or at least, the only key issue.

# 744 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirlonius


	I'm too lazy to post the vids but yes Westbrook and Durant def did have sig shots. The Westbrook one is in the beginning where he misses two times in a row up close....and the commentators even point it out.

You don't need to post the video that's littered throughout this thread. I think you're seeing what you WANT to see. If you have to argue sig versus generic, it's not sig. Now, if you argue that it wasn't quite right, fine. But folks aren't even going there. They aren't seeing any AT ALL. I don't see how you can reconcile that gap in opinions.

# 745 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	If you ever want them to do better they need to know you demand better quality for your money, not making excuses for stuff... you sit here and know its not even close to a replica and see it with your own eyes and and still sit in denial... I just cant stand that.

Mind if I repost this man? Because THIS needs to be on EVERY titles forum! Blind praise does NO ONE any good. That doesn't mean to just be overly-critical. It means don't gloss over problems. Don't just straight up ignore and/or lie about them. Respectfully put it out there and the devs will see and act on it. We know most of them do.

# 746 The 24th Letter @ 08/23/12 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush


	Show me in the video where you saw Signature Shots..

There is definitely a KD sig shot in there, and IMO, it wasn't all that bad...just noticed it because I have a thing for sig shots....it's definitely in there though...

# 747 rudenwoydreamin @ 08/23/12 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimsontide27


	Im going to be very cautious with what I say here as I value my paychecks. Having said that, this was not a pre-alpha build and was actually in fact what was planned to be released as a demo. The reason this video was not released is because of what exactly happened here, the game just isnt good and the backlash gets all the negative attention. When the game was actually shown at other venues, the response was the same from people inside and outside of the industry. It was during a recent showing that the idea of actually not releasing the title at all and skipping another year was thrown around. The people that are actively involved in making the game truly feel like it was a superior product and worthy of release, but thats because they basically built the game from the ground up...yet again, and feel a huge accomplishment just getting everything running correctly. I wont get into technical speak, but instead of taking a foundation and trying to improve on it year after year, they try to reinvent the wheel and start fresh each time....which is very time consuming. The only thing I can think of right now to compare it to would be like being giving a task to dig a ditch. You could go out and bust your tail digging with a spoon and work harder than you ever have and accomplish nothing...but your coworker grabs a bulldozer and completes the project with no hard work...just using their head. The way you can tell that the video you are not seeing is "pre-alpha" is by the font in the menus, the colors were wrong actually on the Thunder if I remember correctly , the entire presentation package is in etc....this was actually a build that was further along than the one shown at the recent conventions and shows...and I do believe some community guys got an opportunity to see it , but had to sign confidentiality agreements. What hurts the most is when you work very hard to make something, and then everyone tears it down. Morale around EA is not very high right now. You have people being moved from project to project...you have some being relocated to different studios in different cities, you have knowledge that some franchises are actually slated to be cut out completely , you have the knowledge that the company is actually being shopped out and has a potential buyer in the background , you dont know if you are going to be employed this time next year...etc ..etc...etc... Some may say its the nature of the turf, but the decsions that are made are not made by the majority of the rank and file employee, its by upper management that has no clue about how and why people play games....its about the bottom line. Cut costs as much as possible, release as little as an upgrade as possible, and release it and just count profit is their motto. I mentioned in a post a long time ago about a meeting about MLB The Show. Probably one of the best represented sports titles to date, but yet has declining sales every year. The game is so good, that many dont buy the next years iteration....and thats the mentality at EA....dont release a product that has very little faults, as it wont sell the next year. Why do you think youve not seen many PC releases of sports titles? Their are arm chair devs out there that will spend their time for free to update those titles and keep them ahead of what is being released. What you are seeing now is the decline of a video game giant that is being run by people that only care about the bottom line ...WHILE they are there, and nothing more. They are not looking at it as a long term venture, more like....."I plan on retiring in 5 years, so lets make as much profit as possible...and worry about damage to our brands later, since I wont be here to deal with it" Or at least thats the mentality. Its a small industry, many people know others outside their own studios and as such rumors run about. You have PopCap, that was recently bought for $1billion and produced some great titles, but now employees are on the chopping block...you have Westwood studios that has lost people left and right, you have Origin and Maxis losing people....and the big elephant in the room was Bioware.....who have lost almost half their staff. The people losing their jobs are not the ones that make descions, its the worker bees who just do what they are told. After several key people left from another prominent team left and formed their own company not too long ago, others took notice. They can get their independent freedom back by making tablet games and avoid the corporate atmosphere where they are dogged daily by their consumers. Bad decsions after bad decsions have left a void where great people used to work, its a changed enviroment and recently quality has reflected that.

Real Talk.

With that said, call me an ultimate optimist but, I am going out on a limb and saying that this is an elaborate publicity stunt/marketing ploy. There is no way in hell this is not pre-alpha. This does not even rank with Elite 11 much less Live 10. If you ask me NBA 2K13 is Live 10 in a manner of speaking(i'll def catch hell for that statement). But as a Live fan I am glad for this cuz its not looking good for Live right now(Good Strategy 2K opening your arms to the Live community). There's no way a dev who is passionate about basketball as well as play the sport himself could leave the work place satisfied with this and sleep at night, this clip was a nightmare. I didn't even like the menus. EA/Live usually have the best stylish menus what I saw wasn't normal and rather confusing. There's not even a cover athlete WTF, thats pretty suspect, no music either? Right, I hope you follow. In closing I feel the sentiments in the quoted statement. Its nice that this place gives a community a voice in the industry but I sense a lot of bias on this site and I feel that it is to the detriment of the basketball gaming genre and the credibility of this site. Some claim they want Live to be good but aren't subjective and dont give props to certain features when its due. Instead they jump on the bandwagon when said features are copied(catchin' more hell). If you want the game to be better some positive feedback goes a long way. These devs work hard as fidduck, I used to want to develop games until I found out the excruciating reality of the job. Long hours and crazy deadlines, all so someone named hard 8 times who clearly isnt a skilled gamer who I doubt could run a decent scrimmage of bball cancel a game. I bring this up because I feel like Elite was a step in the right direction as far as NExt Gen basketball is concerned, far from perfect but had a lot of redeeming qualities that should of been built upon but because of the climate of the industry met its death too early. I honestly feel that if the true gamers adapted to the controls and had time with a fully released and patched four quarters, devs would have a lot better feedback to go off of than the trolling that goes on in here. Who knows Elite 13 and 2K13 could have been in a heated battle creating some of the best basketball gaming moments. Unfortunately that's not the case. The undying optimist in me thinks this clip is for the haters or I could be wrong and the harsh reality is Live is dead. They'll get it right eventually didnt think it wold take so long.

# 748 barimanlhs @ 08/23/12 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz


	NOTE: I agree 100% that competition is great and needed for every market, every genre, every product. But, how many of you folks bemoaning the lack of competition actually support each competitive product, regardless of quality, for competition's sake? These companies have to pay salaries and for resources. We have a case where one title clearly outclassed the other - and therefore - outsold that other title. I'm sure that at some point, the loser gets tired of losing money and bails. If competition is so much in demand, why didn't people buy PES? Why didn't they buy NHL 2K? Are they willing to continue to buy the inferior title just to foster the competition? I'm sure many of you guys do. The question is - will enough people do it? I think that question has already been answered with the titles I mentioned. So, sadly, that makes this discussion pointless.

It really is an endless convo, but from a consumer standpoint the idea of choice makes everything seemingly better. For example, lets say NBA 09, NBA Elite and NBA 2k12, were all theoretically coming out in the same year. All have their issues but being able to compare and find the less broken game makes it play that much better.

I also have a soft spot (one that is hardening very quickly...thats what she said) for Live as I grew up playing it like most of us. I personally would like to see it back on track and as a potential threat to 2k, just so we all win in the end.

# 749 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by barimanlhs


	It really is an endless convo, but from a consumer standpoint the idea of choice makes everything seemingly better. For example, lets say NBA 09, NBA Elite and NBA 2k12, were all theoretically coming out in the same year. All have their issues but being able to compare and find the less broken game makes it play that much better. I also have a soft spot (one that is hardening very quickly...thats what she said) for Live as I grew up playing it like most of us. I personally would like to see it back on track and as a potential threat to 2k, just so we all win in the end.

But the problem is that the consumer refuses to take responsibility for HIS contribution to the cycle. Like it or not, you speak with your wallet. If they REALLY wanted competition, they'd send the message to FIFA that they want PES on the shelves as well. Tell the NFL you won't support a Madden-only market. But that hasn't happened and it won't happen. So what's the point? I grew up on Madden. I bought my platform for Madden. If Madden was on that platform, I bought it. Just to play it as much as I could. That's when I was a kid without real bills to pay. Now I'm a man and smarter and I'd be damned if I toss money at ANY game if I don't think it's worth my time. Sentiment doesn't mean squat because those feelings don't matter, apparently, to some devs. And beyond sentiment, I want a true representation of the game. If the video game doesn't value that authenticity, I could care less if I see it on the shelves or not. It's not something I'll buy. I'm dude. I don't go to the tampon section of Target unless I'm following my wife and/or daughters. And even then, I tell them I'm heading to the electronics section.

A sim game that isn't sim (fam) is the tampon...

(I'm just going to let that last statement linger for a bit.

)

# 750 23 @ 08/23/12 11:24 PM

Lol man you went there....ouch

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2

# 751 Boilerbuzz @ 08/23/12 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 23


	Lol man you went there....ouch Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2

Sorry. I get carried away. I am ready for some football! I get a little crazy around this time.

# 752 kingeo19 @ 08/24/12 12:20 AM

Gotta agree with Boilerbuzz on this.
Not SIM=no compliments, no support, not buying

The way people are talking up the presentation and commentary on these boards EA should just go ahead and release the commentary on itunes.

People are complimenting a baker for icing and frosting when the baker failed to mix the cake flour, sugar, eggs, and butter thoroughly as well as under baking the cake.

# 753 chibears96 @ 08/24/12 12:43 AM

Can't believe all the hate. This will be a great buy for 5 maybe 6 dollars.

# 754 Vni @ 08/24/12 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chibears96


	Can't believe all the hate. This will be a great buy for 5 maybe 6 dollars.

There you go EA, first compliment on your Nba live 13.

It is worth two big macs.

# 755 pmurray20 @ 08/24/12 03:54 AM

i had to turn the video off as soon as it was tip off.

why does everyone look like robotic wax people? THEY SO SHINY

# 756 chibears96 @ 08/24/12 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pmurray20


	i had to turn the video off as soon as it was tip off. why does everyone look like robotic wax people? THEY SO SHINY

It doesn't make me feel bad for playing 2k5 in front of EA fans anymore.

# 757 MielVB @ 08/24/12 06:14 AM

It baffles me that people still defend EA after this got leaked. It looks horrible, period. My friend hardly knows basketball or games and said it looked *ss. So there you have it. When I think about some dudes fighting the good fight for EA here, I can't help but wonder how big the dissappointment will be when this drops. Here's a quote by Colin Cowherd on his radio show a couple of days ago (something like this):

"Nike has released a new LBJ shoe for 300 dollars. People are outraged. And I'll tell you who will buy them. People who desperately need 300 bucks. Do not blame companies for poor financial discipline. If you buy shoes for 300 bucks, you're an idiot. That's a you-problem, not a Nike-problem."

Sorry to the guys who keep defending this game without giving it a second thought, YOU are the people Cowherd is referring to.

My two cents.

# 758 Toaster @ 08/24/12 06:25 AM

Ithink the fact that we have seen zero damage control from EA after this video leaked speaks volumes.
And unfortunately not in a good way...

# 759 King_B_Mack @ 08/24/12 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MielVB


	It baffles me that people still defend EA after this got leaked. It looks horrible, period. My friend hardly knows basketball or games and said it looked ss. So there you have it. When I think about some dudes fighting the good fight for EA here, I can't help but wonder how big the dissappointment will be when this drops.* Here's a quote by Colin Cowherd on his radio show a couple of days ago (something like this): "Nike has released a new LBJ shoe for 300 dollars. People are outraged. And I'll tell you who will buy them. People who desperately need 300 bucks. Do not blame companies for poor financial discipline. If you buy shoes for 300 bucks, you're an idiot. That's a you-problem, not a Nike-problem." Sorry to the guys who keep defending this game without giving it a second thought, YOU are the people Cowherd is referring to. My two cents.

Don't wonder too much cause I can tell you the two ways that's going to turn out.

Number one, if the damn game even sees the light of day (which ain't looking too good) they'll lap it up and won't see a single issue. They're going to ignore the glaring issues for whatever lone positive they see no matter how minor and they'll be in here spitting up the same tired lines that EA trots out as a buzzword. ANT technology, RTP, Move with a Purpose, etc. and they'll still be talking up whatever flaw is in 2K13 as a reason why they're having more fun playing Live.

Number two, the game doesn't drop and we're subjected to hearing how EA was looking out for the consumer and felt the game wasn't ready and didn't want to release an inferior product and they'll be back strong for Next Gen for #shotsfired

# 760 MielVB @ 08/24/12 06:46 AM

You're probably right Mack. It saddens me some people will simply not hold this game up to the standards they should... This coming from a guy who played Live 10 just two days ago.

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