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# 281 WFColonel56 @ 05/05/12 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-P3U...ature=youtu.be Video I posted describes exactly whats wrong with madden today and the blocking schemes involved. But people on here say to use slide protection or whatnot to counter some of these things when you see it happening, but this is 6 against 2! Any explanation on to why this goes on, you already know where it came from but im just wanting to know is this something that has been brought to EA's attention? The guy who posted also said he had been labbing this for a while and still is trying to make it 100% more effective than it is. Whats the point in practicing something like if you know good and damn well this is not for single player?

Thats not allowed in tourneys anyway so thats not a tourney players tactic.

But you know WHY that is possible.....Because EA trying to take out the "nano" as sim players say....They made the OL react way more heavily towards defenders who are told to rush

(as in have the rush/blitz play assignment...playmakered or not)

And in doing that they made the OL pretty oblivious towards players in other play assignments manually rushing..

# 282 WFColonel56 @ 05/05/12 10:50 AM

And BTW smoke that was brought to EA's attention Early M12 as well as in M11

You know.....that derives from players testing out what works in the years before

But I guess the players are at fault AGAIN?

# 283 WFColonel56 @ 05/05/12 10:56 AM

Why is it that ONLY IN MADDEN the player is blamed more than the developer?

You dont hear street fighter 2 players blaming players for the haduken trap

You dont hear COD players blaming other players for the drop shots..They say its wack but they dont blame the player

You dont hear 2K basketball players blame the players and not the developers for the old animations where you could drive and be almost guaranteed a basket or a foul ...
(not sure if its in this yrs game but sure about last yr)
ANd im pretty sure thats more gamebreaking than anything that has been in madden since 2008.

Why is it in madden that players get blame over developers?

Just curious

# 284 Illustrator76 @ 05/05/12 11:43 AM

At this point I hope the mods come and lock this thread up. It just seems to be nothing but a bunch of tourney guys talking complete nonsense and pushing an agenda at this point. For the most part, the OS community leans more towards the "sim" direction, meaning we don't do BS stuff like nanos, shake blitzes or abuse glitches, regardless of whether or not it's the developers fault for them being in the game. Far be it for me to tell anyone: "You're not welcome here" because I don't run this forum and it isn't my place to say that, but all you freestyle guys have your own forums where you can discuss your style of play around like-minded people, so why come here on OS and derail a thread to argue with people who don't share your same views? It makes no sense whatsoever to me. At first it seemed like sgibs7 was actually trying to understand our point of view, but now this whole thread has turned into how "tourney" style players are the Mike Martz's and Buddy Ryan's of the Madden world and "sim" guys suck, refuse to adjust and don't know strategy. I have said it before and I will say it again, you guys are NOT Buddy Ryan and Mike Martz with your BS exploits, glitches and "shake blitz" tactics that aren't even possible in real life. Period. And please don't ever think that you are anywhere close to being real "strategists" like those guys are/were. I really can't stress that last sentence enough. Seriously. Please do NOT take your success using BS tactics, glitches and exploits in Madden as anything other than exactly that.

You guys can continue arguing, but I am not debating the topic anymore. I just wanted to say my peace and then let you guys continue doing whatever you choose.

# 285 Smoke6 @ 05/05/12 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WFColonel56


	Why is it that ONLY IN MADDEN the player is blamed more than the developer? If TNT was here he'd tell you why, but for my reasons, its simple. RESTRAINT! Whats your excuse for using it even if you know its wrong? You dont hear street fighter 2 players blaming players for the haduken trap You dont hear COD players blaming other players for the drop shots..They say its wack but they dont blame the player- How come they dont? im sure activision handles these situations well if its well complained about You dont hear 2K basketball players blame the players and not the developers for the old animations where you could drive and be almost guaranteed a basket or a foul ... We blame the devs more than you think, maybe if you hung around more you would see that or just browse forums more and you will see! (not sure if its in this yrs game but sure about last yr) ANd im pretty sure thats more gamebreaking than anything that has been in madden since 2008. Why is it in madden that players get blame over developers? The issues that are more in your control like turbo blitzing, shake glitching, and all that other stuff is in your hands until the devs do something about it. I never seen the shake glitch until this year out of over 20yrs of playing madden. Then once its taken out and replaced with something dumb, then your community blames us for crying about it and you end up finding something else to exploit to your advantage. Just curious

Once again, you guys dont even try to play the game the way it was intended and going by that thread I linked to on your site is all the proof one needs here.

But going off of what you are saying is that if EA does nothing to fix them, then its OK to use them. But how so if some of you guys go to these community days? Do you not ask why they havent addressed these issues and let them linger for so long as they do?

Why not you guys adapt to playing football instead of cheese ball?

I know its just a game and all but its gives us the immersion that people seek when playing games or whatever it is they do during their free time. Its still someone hard work and effort you are destroying when you play the game the way you do. But let me show everyone how you guys dont mean what you say about playing exploit free ball. Its not just about playing in tournaments, these are the every day free pick up games people would love to play when they come home from work or whatever. So just let me know if you do not agree with this quote from someone on your very forums you came in to protect...

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Smoke, I think your time would be better spent at OS and agreeing with those guys than arguing with us over here. As long as Madden is a video game, there will be glitches and exploits. All computer programs have them. If you'd rather have games played to your specifications, then simply separate yourself from this community and find like-minded gamers rather than pointing and bitching at us. In the end we (the tournament community) does not care and will use whatever advantages are found or presented to us. There are rules prohibiting outright glitches in tournaments and this is not a "do what you want" willy-nilly community. When money is involved, you've gotta be prepared to see things that you don't "see every Sunday". That mindset has permeated throughout the tournament community.
Again, if you want the game played in a way that you're comfortable with, find like-minded gamers so you can play that way. I really think your time is better spent at OS.

In short, leave.

# 286 baller7345 @ 05/05/12 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sgibs7


	i look at that and I see that being a you problem and not a me problem within the game. does it need to be fixed? absolutely. lets lock into a game sometime soon and I want you to literally try and run into my receivers every play and I want to see howbig a problem it causes. would that be cool? I know thats not the "point" and I understand where you guys are coming from on that. but you gotta remember the way I look the game is that Im not going to stand there and just do nothing and complain about the problems at hand. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. If you click on tot he receiver you can do a little wiggle and get around it. so in recap. 1. I didnt see much contact to where I thought THIS IS GAME BREAKING 2. Wont happen every play, just wont. Its an exaggeration and a crutch to lean on. 3. Do something about it to fix the situation at hand that you currently have to deal with, or complain about it.

I know its not really a big problem if you user control but that was what people were referring too. Well maybe not quite as blunt as that but you get the picture. I wouldn't have attempted what I did there in a normal game I would of just swatted it down. However when you play someone who either doesn't have the skill to make that play or doesn't have the skill to actually user catch that throw then you run into areas where people find things like that annoying.

Also while I'd love to play you in a game you picked the worst time. School is ending and with it my access to a high speed internet connection. The only Madden I'll be playing within the next few months will be at a launch tournament come August (unless I get a good connection by then).

# 287 KOACHK @ 05/05/12 12:26 PM

This is a forum about MADDEN; anyone that plays this game should be able to post here. Between the 2K fanboys, and people that clearly don't play Madden for more than a couple of weeks in September; insight from people that actually play and appreciate this game for what it is should be welcome here. -It's about time new perspectives are shared here.

DON'T BE SCARED OF THE MADDEN! -PLAY IT!

Oh, and for the "love of love"; start playing against PEOPLE! -In this world of Facebook, Twitter, etc; more Maddenites need to embrace multiplayer/head-to-head. Other genres have embraced multiplayer/head-to-head; Maddenites should be able to do that too. We have the tools at our disposal; we just need to shed the negativity and be proactive about it.

Madden is a great, fun game; sure it's not perfect, but the pros far outweigh the cons when it comes to playing this game.

For you 2K fanboys ... -Even WHEN 2K HAD THE NFL License, MOST people STILL preferred Madden. Why did 2K feel like they had to drop the price of 2K5 to $20? 2K also had the chance to outbid EA if they wanted to; they're a big-boy company too, and could've came up with the money to do so. On top of all that, I'm pretty sure the NFL wasn't too thrilled with 2K dropping the price of their game to $20; why would a company want somoene cheapening their brand with desperate, shoddy, sales tactics like that?

IT'S OK TO ENJOY MADDEN EVERYONE! -NO MATTER WHAT THE NEGATIVE, VOCAL, AGENDA DRIVEN, AXE GRINDING PEOPLE HERE TELL YOU; IT'S OK TO LIKE AND PLAY THIS GAME FOR WHAT IT IS.

# 288 Smoke6 @ 05/05/12 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KOACHK


	This is a forum about MADDEN; anyone that plays this game should be able to post here. Between the 2K fanboys, and people that clearly don't play Madden for more than a couple of weeks in September; insight from people that actually play and appreciate this game for what it is should be welcome here. -It's about time new perspectives are shared here. DON'T BE SCARED OF THE MADDEN! -PLAY IT! Oh, and for the "love of love"; start playing against PEOPLE! -In this world of Facebook, Twitter, etc; more Maddenites need to embrace multiplayer/head-to-head. Other genres have embraced multiplayer/head-to-head; Maddenites should be able to do that too. We have the tools at our disposal; we just need to shed the negativity and be proactive about it. Madden is a great, fun game; sure it's not perfect, but the pros far outweigh the cons when it comes to playing this game. For you 2K fanboys ... -Even WHEN 2K HAD THE NFL License, MOST people STILL preferred Madden. Why did 2K feel like they had to drop the price of 2K5 to $20? 2K also had the chance to outbid EA if they wanted to; they're a big-boy company too, and could've came up with the money to do so. On top of all that, I'm pretty sure the NFL wasn't too thrilled with 2K dropping the price of their game to $20; why would a company want somoene cheapening their brand with desperate, shoddy, sales tactics like that? IT'S OK TO ENJOY MADDEN EVERYONE! -NO MATTER WHAT THE NEGATIVE, VOCAL, AGENDA DRIVEN, AXE GRINDING PEOPLE HERE TELL YOU; IT'S OK TO LIKE AND PLAY THIS GAME FOR WHAT IT IS.

Man you are amazing, good thing im grown and DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!

Anyways, madden has long been established well before 2K, it kinda takes a lot to pull someone from some playing and being loyal to one particular brand of anything. Thats just the way the people are man!

But thanks for directly neglecting to respond to that quote I posted above that came from one of your community members. Hope fully someone will respond to it by the time i get back tonight!

# 289 shaunlmason @ 05/05/12 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sgibs7


	see i love this response - this is what it is right here. its not sim, its not freestyle, its about madden players finding madden players to play games with.

It helps that I know you personally so I know you are good people. I also know though we enjoy the game on a different level that you single handedly get more broken gameplay issues addressed than everyone at OS combined and that matters to me.

# 290 KOACHK @ 05/05/12 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	Man you are amazing, good thing im grown and DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!

Smoke, you always respond with semantics like this; dismissing it as "hype", "playing both sides", "being snarky", etc.. You're always going to be mad; so unfortunate. I guess "playing fair" means letting you win all the time, right? -Because your rants come from a perspective of someone that's an EXTREMELY sore loser. You frequent sites that competitive madden players go to, get tips from them, then turn around and bash those same players that help you out; looks pretty much like "playing both sides" to me.

Putting words in people's mouths, and dismissing somoene's thoughts with very broad generalizations isn't how you have a constructive discussion/debate. -I'm sure everyone else here can agree with that.

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	Anyways, madden has long been established well before 2K, it kinda takes a lot to pull someone from some playing and being loyal to one particular brand of anything. Thats just the way the people are man!

Madden was just BETTER. EA had basketball games before 2K did too, but 2K eventually had the preferred NBA game; that didn't happen when it came to the NFL.

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	But thanks for directly neglecting to respond to that quote I posted above that came from one of your community members. Hope fully someone will respond to it by the time i get back tonight!

I'm not about to start defending quotes made by other people, especially if I don't 100% agree with them. I only address statements that I've made, or statements from others I 100% agree with. If a site has a Madden discussion forum open to everyone that plays that game, no one should be "banished" from it if they're respectfully expressing their views.

# 291 WFColonel56 @ 05/05/12 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke6


	Once again, you guys dont even try to play the game the way it was intended and going by that thread I linked to on your site is all the proof one needs here. But going off of what you are saying is that if EA does nothing to fix them, then its OK to use them. But how so if some of you guys go to these community days? Do you not ask why they havent addressed these issues and let them linger for so long as they do? Why not you guys adapt to playing football instead of cheese ball? I know its just a game and all but its gives us the immersion that people seek when playing games or whatever it is they do during their free time. Its still someone hard work and effort you are destroying when you play the game the way you do. But let me show everyone how you guys dont mean what you say about playing exploit free ball. Its not just about playing in tournaments, these are the every day free pick up games people would love to play when they come home from work or whatever. So just let me know if you do not agree with this quote from someone on your very forums you came in to protect...

Smoke I have already answered EVERYTHING in your post in my posts...I am not repeating myself again

But to everyone saying I am trolling or just going on for no reason on here and whatnot SMOKE started this...SMOKE is the one who is posting links to other forums and presenting them out of context UNPROVOKED.

What would yo do if OS was brought up for NO REASON and was getting bashed? Especially for something that the readers dont even understand the context behind.

But its funny he always wants to paint half of the picture and leave out other parts like the threads below

http://www.thegamerslab.com/communit...ishlist-2.html

http://www.thegamerslab.com/communit...-packages.html

http://www.thegamerslab.com/communit...opponents.html

But good day guys. Im not debating this anymore, you guys think how you think and its not changing. We think how we think and its not changing so theres no use to just keep talking in circles. It is doing nothing more than wasitng your time and mines.

# 292 baller7345 @ 05/05/12 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KOACHK


	You frequent sites that competitive madden players go to, get tips from them, then turn around and bash those same players that help you out; looks pretty much like "playing both sides" to me.

While him bashing the people that help him is certainly not right there isn't much he can do when it comes to looking for help from a sim site. Most of the sites out there cater towards freestyle player and a site that has tips exclusively for the sim player is rare. This site definitely caters more to the sim style than any other but its gameplay/strategy section is more or less dead. Now there is me on Madden School and I'm sure there are a few other people who give sim advice but its just not all that common around the internet.

# 293 shaunlmason @ 05/05/12 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baller7345


	This site definitely caters more to the sim style than any...

No so fast my friend.

# 294 KOACHK @ 05/05/12 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baller7345


	While him bashing the people that help him is certainly not right there isn't much he can do when it comes to looking for help from a sim site. Most of the sites out there cater towards freestyle player and a site that has tips exclusively for the sim player is rare. This site definitely caters more to the sim style than any other but its gameplay/strategy section is more or less dead. Now there is me on Madden School and I'm sure there are a few other people who give sim advice but its just not all that common around the internet.

They're MADDEN sites. They're not "sim", "freestyle" or any other labels; they're sites for people that enjoy the game for what it is and talk about actually PLAYING Madden. There's no such thing as "sim" or "freestyle" tips, there are just tips put out there that people choose to utilize or not utilize according to their preference. Like I said before, there's no such thing as a universal "sim" standard, but at least competitive Madden does.

-It's cool that you're trying to do your part to help though man; keep it up!

# 295 baller7345 @ 05/05/12 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KOACHK


	They're MADDEN sites. They're not "sim", "freestyle" or any other labels; they're sites for people that enjoy the game for what it is and talk about actually PLAYING Madden. There's no such thing as "sim" or "freestyle" tips, there are just tips put out there that people choose to utilize or not utilize according to their preference. Like I said before, there's no such thing as a universal "sim" standard, but at least competitive Madden does. -It's cool that you're trying to do your part to help though man; keep it up!

The problem with some of the sites is how if someone comes out and states they play sim and want tips to play sim they often times get berated or it turns into a debate about why sim isn't realistic to begin with. Now I know this doesn't happen in all sites but I've seen plenty of threads where it happens. Its like that on a whole though, if a sim player heads into a lobby or even creates his own lobby and asks for a sim game he is likely going to get some type of verbal abuse thrown at him or the person he plays is going to lie and use tactics that the sim player doesn't want used. Now I know the reverse is true but its still much harder for a sim player to find tips than it is for a freestyle player.

Freestyle players have sites like GGRematch, The Gamer's Lab, etc. While some sites like The Gamer's Lab do try to cater to both facets its much easier for a freestyle player to find informtion on their playstyle. What do sim players have? There is operation but that doesn't have a huge amount tips. Most of the tip sites have more freestyle information than sim information.

Now this is something I'd love to see changed, but it seems to be something that very few higher level sim players with to try and do. I've given everything I have this year on Madden School but still if I made a site and put everything I have posted on MS there it wouldn't be a very good site (even if it does include 3 sim style playbook breakdowns).

# 296 Smoke6 @ 05/05/12 03:16 PM

To wf and Koach,

I go to your site and get help on how to stop the very stuff we discuss in this thread. If it can be done with out exploiting the game myself then I gets that knowledge and help others in the communities im a part of.

Its like im being robin hood if you will.

But its not my fault that I give a damn about a how football video game is played. I am pretty sure the moment you first ever played madden you werent doing the things we have been griping about for years. No one is raised to cheat people and a majority of competing venues dont allow that either and you guys been accepting it for years.

Its dead with me between you guys, its not about the tournaments but moreso the lobby games thats being affected by all this. If its not allowed in tourney's you participate in, then whats the reason for using them in the first place when its not part or accepted in your venue's in the first place?

I dont care what questions you answered, you just beat around the bush as always, and my online record online in madden alone is 180-70, so I dont know where you are getting this "sore loser" talk from anyway. I can hang and have won most of the games against this garbage, but that doesnt mean I have to like it. I would be too afraid to run some crap that you guys claim to be so easily beatable, my whole game plan is to be unbeatable with respect to taking a beating or 2 every now and then.

I dont think you guys even read what it is you even type out or think it through, but come to jump down my throat or anyone who claims to be sim when none of you jump down the throats of those individuals who play a different style and dont care if they use exploits or not to achieve success.

When they talk no one goes " man, you still with that crap? that gets old bruh and its not even allowed in tourney's so whats the point?". But you come here with the quickness to defend a style you claim you're not associated with for the past 2 days and some!

I never see any of you defend the SIM player at all, only to say SIM doesnt exists because we dont play 15min quarters. SHOW ME SOME AND1 FOOTBALL LIVE ON TV and you may have an argument!

# 297 PVarck31 @ 05/05/12 04:02 PM

The 2K talk in this thread ends now.

# 298 ryan36 @ 05/05/12 04:22 PM

Read the sticky I just posted guys.

# 299 Smoke6 @ 05/05/12 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan36


	Read the sticky I just posted guys.

Yea I get it, it wasnt my intention on that happening, just pointing out how people intentionally decide to ruin the game before it even gets a fresh start when it released. Most of that contributes to the issues we were talking about in this very thread until it derailed big time (my apologies). Online cheating brings out more issues regarding gameplay than we would have ever noticed if there wasnt the intent in online play.

What you do offline is your own personal business, online is a whole other beast and many of us wish people would just play football and avoid the grey or areas and enjoy the game. I love winning but people take it too far Winning>>>>>>>Fun has been like this forever. Hope EA addresses this soon as to why its like this.

Sorry OS and everyone here, it did get out of hand, I love the sport, not just the game, it sickens me there is no true foundation to govern online play in sports games to keep people from degrading it like it has been in madden.

Once again I apologize!

# 300 sgibs7 @ 05/06/12 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PVarck31


	The 2K talk in this thread ends now.

whats going on in here - was away all day yesterday

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